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Idiotic Trend: hmmm, been through rap, wiggers, riceboys, dirty pants... gee, thats pretty all-encompasing... they're all kinda related 
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How about 'hip-hop' stuff period... the dress, the talk... it may be a reality for a very small percentage of the population (a handfull of people in L.A., New York etc.), but for the rest of you people... grow the hell up.
. How about 'hip-hop' stuff period... the dress, the talk... it may be a reality for a very small percentage of the population (a handfull of people in L.A., New York etc.), but for the rest of you people... grow the hell up.
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^^ Very good point.
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Michael Schumacher made £87 million this year without winning a race (well... he won the USGP, but only Tiago Monteiro thought it was a race).
Fiddy Pence is a genius? Time to crank out a new Nobel Prize category then - the Nobel Prize for Silly Hand Gestures and Talking Quickly (to Background Drum Beats) About Life in the Ghetto When You Earn £60 Million a Year.
Stephen Hawking is a genius. Watson and Crick (and Franklin) are/were geniuses. Fiddy Pence is a big bloke who speaks rubbish and apparently has osteoarthritis in his middle two fingers.
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Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go Famine, it's your birfday, we gon party like it's your birfday, we gon drink Bacardi like it's yo birfday, and you know we don't give a flock because it's your birfday
I think that about sums up Fitty. He's got talent, and it shows in some of his songs, but he's far from being a genius, or even the best. As far as I'm concerned, DMX is the best rapper alive because he's not a rapper at all, he's a man. People can relate to him.
This really has no business in this thread, so to go back on topic...
G01NG TOUGE Y0: Please stop it. You cannot "touge". It's simply impossible for a person to "touge", touge is a Japanese word, pronounced too-gay, and it means mountain pass/road. You cannot "drive touge", "drift touge", "race touge", etc. You can drive/drift/race on the touge. The term "touge monster" is at least halfway correct, but it could be phrased better. This trend bothers me personally as someone who spends time racing in the mountains.
I think that about sums up Fitty. He's got talent, and it shows in some of his songs, but he's far from being a genius, or even the best. As far as I'm concerned, DMX is the best rapper alive because he's not a rapper at all, he's a man. People can relate to him.
This really has no business in this thread, so to go back on topic...
G01NG TOUGE Y0: Please stop it. You cannot "touge". It's simply impossible for a person to "touge", touge is a Japanese word, pronounced too-gay, and it means mountain pass/road. You cannot "drive touge", "drift touge", "race touge", etc. You can drive/drift/race on the touge. The term "touge monster" is at least halfway correct, but it could be phrased better. This trend bothers me personally as someone who spends time racing in the mountains.
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Well then maybe you should close it because anyone could have seen it coming.
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Back on the trend issue, what's up with automotive window tint colors that are normally reserved for a church's stained glass windows? Why would anyone want to constantly look out of a moving vehicle's window that's tinted purple, blue, red, green, etc.; and for that matter, how can anyone do it without feeling sick?
I'll say that rap/hip-hop isn't an idiotic trend. But the trend to water down the creativity and lyrical meaning out of it has steadily increased in the past 12-13 years. What I've heard on the radio all that time seems to play to the lowest common denominator, as the musical content is largely re-hashed 1980's pop songs (mostly from white artists) and even several cases of 1980's rap lyrics re-used (!). Does one more rap song need to be written about how hard life is when you've got no money? Or that you grew up poor (or at least pretend to be)? Or that you fell into "traps" that "the man" left for you, and that the only role models you had were drug dealers, murderers, drunks, pimps, and thieves? It's bullcrap that's foisted on unwise people, and instead of actually doing something about it, rappers tend to glamorize the situation with misleading ideas that somehow 22" rims will solve the issue. How about you freestyle for 3 minutes without mentioning anything I mentioned in the previous sentence, and then I'll be impressed.
For now, what's with the phrase "That's Hot!" for everything? It sounds so childish and "plasticy", as if Madison Avenue told you what to think. Heck, I heard two salesman say it to prospective buyers looking at new cars just yesterday. (I guess "Hella" had it's day, and will just have to go back to labelling foglamps.
Copyright protection that doesn't allow me to duplicate what I've bought for my unlimited private, personal use. I bought it, and therefore, I should be able to use it on everything I also own that I don't give away, sell, re-distribute, or modify for financial gains. Sadly, this trend isn't going to go away (without a few hacks).
I'll say that rap/hip-hop isn't an idiotic trend. But the trend to water down the creativity and lyrical meaning out of it has steadily increased in the past 12-13 years. What I've heard on the radio all that time seems to play to the lowest common denominator, as the musical content is largely re-hashed 1980's pop songs (mostly from white artists) and even several cases of 1980's rap lyrics re-used (!). Does one more rap song need to be written about how hard life is when you've got no money? Or that you grew up poor (or at least pretend to be)? Or that you fell into "traps" that "the man" left for you, and that the only role models you had were drug dealers, murderers, drunks, pimps, and thieves? It's bullcrap that's foisted on unwise people, and instead of actually doing something about it, rappers tend to glamorize the situation with misleading ideas that somehow 22" rims will solve the issue. How about you freestyle for 3 minutes without mentioning anything I mentioned in the previous sentence, and then I'll be impressed.
For now, what's with the phrase "That's Hot!" for everything? It sounds so childish and "plasticy", as if Madison Avenue told you what to think. Heck, I heard two salesman say it to prospective buyers looking at new cars just yesterday. (I guess "Hella" had it's day, and will just have to go back to labelling foglamps.
Copyright protection that doesn't allow me to duplicate what I've bought for my unlimited private, personal use. I bought it, and therefore, I should be able to use it on everything I also own that I don't give away, sell, re-distribute, or modify for financial gains. Sadly, this trend isn't going to go away (without a few hacks).
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I think we have Paris Hilton to thank for that one...pupik
She's an idiotic trend herself...
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You make a lot of these "mass sweeping generalizations" about cultures. Any reason or statistics to back it up (as prefered in the "Opinions Forum Guidelines")?
you know one trend i noticed becoming popular around 8 years ago or so is the gelled up spikey hair. it seems to fading out now but maybe thats because im getting older and im not around the younger junior high and high school kids so see this. but whats the deal with it? it's an ok look i guess but ive seen people who have that look and then one day decide to go without it and they look much better. but this trend is so common its really sickening.
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Yes that frog.
His 1st hit was so old!, I heard that back in 2000, 5 years before the frog even found it!.
Let alone when it really surfaced on the net.
His 1st hit was so old!, I heard that back in 2000, 5 years before the frog even found it!.
Let alone when it really surfaced on the net.
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I'm not anti-mainstream, but I don't consider myself a fan of much mainstream music. This is not automatic, a trend, or anything of the like - I simply don't find an attraction or interest in mainstream music, or mainstream trends. This doesn't mean I'm being controlled by mainstream, and I don't tend to complain about mainstream, as I simply ignore it unless it's shoved in my face.Ghost C
Either way, I agree with what you say to an extent. Disliking or hating mainstream is not wrong as such, but if you're doing it because you want to be "cool", then that's silly. That's posing. Mainstream-hating people who hate it for no reason tend to call people who like mainstream posers. Funny how that works.
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Wouldn't "mainstream" be synonymous with "commercial"? I mean, it's like people who say they like jazz but all they've heard is Kenny G, because he's the more commercially available.
I've always been proud of not liking commercial music, for example. I liked Metallica until it became commercial (after 1991). I like jazz, but I hate Kenny G. And so on. I've dressed more or less the same way since 1995 and haven't really followed a fashion trend.
I've always been proud of not liking commercial music, for example. I liked Metallica until it became commercial (after 1991). I like jazz, but I hate Kenny G. And so on. I've dressed more or less the same way since 1995 and haven't really followed a fashion trend.
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So here's my question. You hate things that are commercially available - Why?
You liked Metallica until they became popular, which implies that the millisecond they became popular, they were somehow less talented. How do you draw that conclusion? Where does this idea come from?
I really want to know.
You liked Metallica until they became popular, which implies that the millisecond they became popular, they were somehow less talented. How do you draw that conclusion? Where does this idea come from?
I really want to know.
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Its stupid. People do it because for example say I am a big fan of metalicca when they were underground and non-commercial. They are talented yet everyone else listen to other stuff which is nothing on metallica. Then all of a sudden everyone likes them and now its kinda uncool to like them in my little circle. I'll be thinking no one even heard of them until this or that song and now theyre going on as if the know they know everything.
Something along those lines its kinda hard to explain. I went through a stupid faze liek that a couple years back.
Something along those lines its kinda hard to explain. I went through a stupid faze liek that a couple years back.
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That really bugs me, too. More than that, when people label every band that has ever been played on MTV/MTV2 as a "sellout" that really gets on my nerves. Making/playing music for money is apparently the new definition of "sellout." Every band wants to make it, at least to the point where they can support themselves financially doing something they totally love. Evidently, these bands are supposed to turn down record deals, because then it is no longer about music, but money? It makes no sense. Most (but not all) bands do not change their style to please record labels and to get as many fans as possible, which seems to be the popular perception. The only difference I can see after a band becomes big is that they are generally forced to create albums at a rather rapid pace, as per their contract with the record label. This leads to a few "filler" songs on every album, as it is difficult to come up with 10-15 songs that are truly great every year. This doesn't mean their music has gone south in the name of money, however. These CD's are still very good, still show the band's talent, and are still worth buying. At the other end of the time spectrum is TOOL, who put out masterpiece albums every time. Why? It takes them 4-5 years to do it. If you were to take any given band, and make a collection of their very best songs over a 5 year-period, you'd probably have a pretty good collection.
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Well, not commercially available, since if it weren't, I'd wouldn't be able to buy it. I just don't like listening to what everyone else listens to... one of the reasons I don't listen much to the radio. BY "commercial" I don't mean commercially available... but as a synonym of "mainstream"
Metallica did indeed change their style after the black album. I never said they were less talented, just not to my liking. If you want to go deeper into it, I'd say the sound they had in Master of Puppets and ...And Justice for All is more or less an unreachable level of perfection, and in Load and ReLoad and more or less what they did after them, except for St. Anger, they were more alternative and less metal.
Same thing has happened with many bands; they play a pretty good type of music, but when they become popular, they tend to change their style, to something softer. Why? One reason is money... I'm sure it's been much more profitable for bands like Incubus to make medium-to-soft rock albums than the type of hard nu metal they played in the late 90s.
That's one of the reasons I also listen a lot to jazz, since the musicians tend to stick to their styles. I'm not saying other music types change their styles...
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I hate the term sell-out. The only time I ever use it is to mock people who use the term seriously, or to joke around. However, whether it's true or not, my perception of Metallica is that did, in fact, "sell out". My reasoning? During the early-to-mid 80's, and then the late 80's, Thrash was a popular phase, whether it was commercial or not. Thrash was one of the most predominant forms of Metal, with bands like Slayer, Sepultura, Kreator, Anthrax, Megadeth and the like, hitting it big in the Metal world. Metallica were at the top of this list. Kill 'Em All to ...And Justice For All were Thrash, and Metal in general, masterpieces. The sound was fast, loud, heavy and catchy. James Hetfield sounded mean. The entire work in this period was Metal gold, whether it was big commercially at the time or not.
Then they hit the Black Album, or Untitled, whichever you prefer. The sound was a little different, with more of the softer songs throughout the album, and a slower pace. It was more Heavy Metal than Thrash. This album, however, was still good. I personally enjoyed most of the songs.
At the time of Load, the wave of Seattle sounds had been well-established by bands such as Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam and Nirvana, though the latter wasn't really a Seattle Sound. Suddenly, Rock was back, though more of a modern kind. Load came out in 1996, and it seemed Metallica had ridden the wave of Modern Rock. I'm not[/i] stating that Metallica sounded like any of the aforementioned bands, but as Modern Rock started to become commercialised and bands were riding on a big wave of success from the public demand for this type of music, Metallica had seemingly adhered to this trend.
Now, whether it is true that Metallica decided to cash in on this trend or not, Metallica's sound did change, and for fans of the old, it was not a good change. Load and Reload are not appealing to me, personally, and I find them quite boring. This has nothing to do with the "trend" of disliking commercial, mainstream bands - it is a personal discomfort with the sound from these albums.
I will agree with you guys, however, that it is ridiculous to call bands and artists sell-outs for making it big and hitting the mainstream on MTV, or the like. Kudos to the bands and artists that do make it big, whether I enjoy listening to them or not.
Then they hit the Black Album, or Untitled, whichever you prefer. The sound was a little different, with more of the softer songs throughout the album, and a slower pace. It was more Heavy Metal than Thrash. This album, however, was still good. I personally enjoyed most of the songs.
At the time of Load, the wave of Seattle sounds had been well-established by bands such as Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam and Nirvana, though the latter wasn't really a Seattle Sound. Suddenly, Rock was back, though more of a modern kind. Load came out in 1996, and it seemed Metallica had ridden the wave of Modern Rock. I'm not[/i] stating that Metallica sounded like any of the aforementioned bands, but as Modern Rock started to become commercialised and bands were riding on a big wave of success from the public demand for this type of music, Metallica had seemingly adhered to this trend.
Now, whether it is true that Metallica decided to cash in on this trend or not, Metallica's sound did change, and for fans of the old, it was not a good change. Load and Reload are not appealing to me, personally, and I find them quite boring. This has nothing to do with the "trend" of disliking commercial, mainstream bands - it is a personal discomfort with the sound from these albums.
I will agree with you guys, however, that it is ridiculous to call bands and artists sell-outs for making it big and hitting the mainstream on MTV, or the like. Kudos to the bands and artists that do make it big, whether I enjoy listening to them or not.
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Right.
The only possible exception would be Garage, Inc. which was a compilation of their previous Garage Days albums. Incidentally, the 1987 record Garage Days Re-Revisited was the first Metallica album I purchased... on vinyl! St. Anger is an experiment in Metallica going their old ways. I think it's not bad, but it lacks melody and has too much noise. The drums don't sound very clean either.
There were other bands at the time which although hitting big (not as big as Metallica), didn't quite change their style. Examples would be Sepultura, Pantera and Slayer. I'm not sure about Sepultura, but the other two bands didn't change their style and unfortunately didn't last much... is the lack of change a cause for the band's demise? That's a question for a completely new thread.
But back to the trends topic!
The only possible exception would be Garage, Inc. which was a compilation of their previous Garage Days albums. Incidentally, the 1987 record Garage Days Re-Revisited was the first Metallica album I purchased... on vinyl! St. Anger is an experiment in Metallica going their old ways. I think it's not bad, but it lacks melody and has too much noise. The drums don't sound very clean either.
There were other bands at the time which although hitting big (not as big as Metallica), didn't quite change their style. Examples would be Sepultura, Pantera and Slayer. I'm not sure about Sepultura, but the other two bands didn't change their style and unfortunately didn't last much... is the lack of change a cause for the band's demise? That's a question for a completely new thread.
But back to the trends topic!
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