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From member Guffaluff

I just recieved a reply to my email regarding the Kotaku GT5 article. This is what I wrote (I apologize for some minor brown-nosing :

Hello there .

I've been following your website for quite a while now, and all I can say is thumbs up! .

I just read your E3 article on GT5, and I have one question, if you don't mind .

It's about this segment of the article:

"The developers have created fully modeled interiors for the Premium cars, as well as doing detailed modeling for the car's undercarriage and even the exhaust pipes! The Standard cars apparently won't have the exact interior modeling. For example, an Enzo's interior will look like the real deal, but your typical Mustang's will look like exactly like Mustang's."

Maybe you have noticed, but there has been quite a lot of fuss regarding the recent announcement of Premium and Standard cars in GT5, and if the latter have cockpit view or not. What you write in the above segment indicates that the standard cars do indeed have a cockpit/dashboard view, just not nearly as detailed as the premium cars.

Could you by any chance clarify this? Because according to some other articles, it suggests that the Standard cars don't have any form of cockpit/dashboard view. So do the standard cars have some sort of a cockpit/dashboard view? Also, if you happen to know, are the Standard cars simply upscaled GT4 models, or have the car models been improved so thy don't look out of place in a race with premium cars?

If you have the time and info to answer those questions, I (and probably all of GTplanet.com :P ) would be really thankful .

Best regards

And this is the reply I got:

"What you write in the above segment indicates that the standard cars do indeed have a cockpit/dashboard view, just not nearly as detailed as the premium cars."

That's correct. And that's why I wrote it.

He didn't comment on if the standard cars would be simply upscaled GT4 models or not, but this indicates that the standard cars should have a cockpit view, just not with the same amount of details as the premium cars.

Just wanted to let you guys know





http://www.myspace.com/wip3ou7

the man from ironstar from whom Sasuki received the cockpit info is a mad man!!!
However, seems like he's popular in the gaming community so maybe we can trust him!

from a member on the E3 thread
GUYS, i finally got some news from IronStar staff

They interviewed GT5 staff at E3


and YES GT5 standard cars will have COCKPIT VIEW!!!
:dopey:

No it not a joke, Those guys from IronStar are there at E3, i sent them an email


"Standard cars in GT5 have cockpit view!" and they said yes standard car will have Cockpit view

NO im not talking about that

here's my email

"Nice E3 coverage, PLEASE find GT5 staff and ask him will "Standard cars in GT5 have cockpit view!"

We are disparate to know this....


He replayed "yes they will have cockpit view"

Can you forward that to my email to me antmiller3@yahoo.com thank you

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thank you very much sir 👍





※“スタンダードカー”はインテリア視点に対応していません。

From Google "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view. from yahoo > * The “standard car” does not correspond to interior point of view.

From member Dracwolley "standard car does not support the interior visual point(thank you for your help)


Definition for correspond- to be similar, analogous, or equal, (to something) to be in conformity or agreement <the ideal failed&#8230;to correspond with the reality &#8212; J. R. Sutherland> b : to compare closely : match &#8212;usually used with to or with c : to be equivalent or parallel

^^^^ can somebody please who can read this translate the Japanese word that is directly from the PD Japanese web stite thank you 👍
Definition for correspond- to be similar, analogous, or equal, (to something)

Article from PD Japanese site translated with Google Chrome if you have better translation please be my guess 👍
From PD Japan site


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[Gran Turismo 5 in this "premium car" alone has recorded more than 200 models.

From PD Japanese site

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"Premium car" would represent an attractive thing for you to reproduce at depth. Exterior (exterior) as well, especially in a high degree of repeatability in the interior if [Gran Turismo 5.

From race cars to commercial vehicles, instrument panel look different for each car, as well as seats and interior trim materials, colors ranging, thorough and reproduce.

The following details of Gran Turismo 5 [premium car (right) and cover photo of vehicle (left) side by side I. Special 5 [degrees please reproduce.

From PD Japanese site

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More than 800 car models included standard


Go to movie page and click on the image
"Gran Turismo" with their huge number of cars included in the series, "PlayStation 3" and the current technology, what more beautiful reproduction of this car "standard" is.

The recording volume, how over 800 models. Age range, the richness of variety to choose from different categories, "Standard Car" will say the biggest attraction.

&#8251; "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.


Question This is another question to the GTP community where does it say Preium cars will have cockpit view in any text interview or information dealing with GT5. We know the Preiums cars have cockpit race views because we have actually played and seen them. Lets give the standards cars a chance to be fully driven and examined. As i said before if we go by the text we have read during the day its not really lying Premium cars will have interior views that will be fully recreated and visible standard cars will not have corresponding interiors

EX Standard Model:
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If you look at the interior of these cars would you say that is a fully detailed interior that is fully replecated or a interior that doesnt correspond with its real life counter part

Premium Model:
madrid_002a.jpg

If you look at the interior of these car would you say that is a fully detailed interior that is fully replecated or a interior that doesnt correspond with its real life counter part

As i said before if you take the information and match it up with the info we have seen so far it matches up Standard have generic looking interiors that do not replicate its real life counterpart(This is the reason for the blacked out windows), and premium cars have fully detailed interior that represent it real life counterpart to the last stitch (this is why during replay mode you can see through the glass the interior have been fully recreated piece by piece) this doesn't mean we will have no cockpit driving view for the standard cars IMO

( I am hoping this is the same case for the cockpit driving view. Standard cars have generic cockpits and preium have cockpits that mimic their real life counterpart I will not loose hope yet :gtpflag: )

This is my problem please i need the true gt fans to hear me on this. When i 1st signed up to this site i loved how mature and grown the people, and conversation were. i loved how when people got to crazy about new details folks would tell them don't speculate wait until we get officials new,s or try to figure out some info with many ways to look at the situation.

We have been waiting for E3 for a long time. Right before E3 it was broadcasted that we were going to be disappointed, for the fact of we were going to get very little information with no video footage. From that GT members broadcasted the news and the forums went crazy. So damn crazy they started a rage thread. I remember alot of true members saying atleast start the thread when The E3/Sony conference is over and we get no footage. In the end was he right.. NOPE. In the End E3 was the Bomb!! This was a case of people getting New news and automatically taking it to heart or whats the new motto i see here in GTP believe in the worst 1st

So that blew over however the big bad cockpit debate came on. In the honda tittwer Interview Kaz said something about black out cockpit right away people said no cockpit no cockpit. the way i took this was a miss translation and kaz just agreeing about the GT psp blacked out cockpits many others agreed this to me was still not enough info for me that it was no cockpits.

People seemed to chill after that however someone come on here and posted Its official there is no cockpits, then gave a link to the japan website which he said it said it "no cockpit view" with Japanese writing. When i heard the news i was devastated right after that i had to read the news for my self. i have google chrome so i knew i could translate the website when i translated the website it said this.

Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.



When you read the premium part it says this "Premium car" would represent an attractive thing for you to reproduce at depth. Exterior (exterior) as well, especially in a high degree of repeatability in the interior if [Gran Turismo 5.

From race cars to commercial vehicles, instrument panel look different for each car, as well as seats and interior trim materials, colors ranging, thorough and reproduce.


When reading the two and comparing both descriptions and also looking at the premium picture and the standard car pic this is my conclusion

The standard cars interiors cannot be seen while watching a replay(reason for the blacked out interiors) also when in cockpit view((im praying so bad we get some type of cockpit view) it will not match that cars actual interior it will be a generic version.




The premium cars interior will be visible through replay mode and cockpit mode fully detailed to the T. In conclusion i think Standard cars will have cockpit mode 👍

So there you have please friends please feel free to express you thoughts on the whole ideal in a mature matter thank you.
 
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"Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.

Definition for correspond- to be similar, analogous, or equal, (to something)

This is my problem please i need the true gt fans to hear me on this. When i 1st signed up to this site i loved how mature and grown the people, and conversation were. i loved how when people got to crazy about new details folks would tell them don't speculate wait until we get officials new,s or try to figure out some info with many ways to look at the situation.

We have been waiting for E3 for a long time. Right before E3 it was broadcasted that we were going to be disappointed, for the fact of we were going to get very little information with no video footage. From that GT members broadcasted the news and the forums went crazy. So damn crazy they started a rage thread. I remember alot of true members saying atleast start the thread when The E3/Sony conference is over and we get no footage. In the end was he right.. NOPE. In the End E3 was the Bomb!! This was a case of people getting New news and automatically taking it to heart or whats the new motto i see here in GTP believe in the worst 1st

So that blew over however the big bad cockpit debate came on. In the honda tittwer Interview Kaz said something about black out cockpit right away people said no cockpit no cockpit. the way i took this was a miss translation and kaz just agreeing about the GT psp blacked out cockpits many others agreed this to me was still not enough info for me that it was no cockpits.

People seemed to chill after that however someone come on here and posted Its official there is no cockpits, then gave a link to the japan website which he said it said it "no cockpit view" with Japanese writing. When i heard the news i was devastated right after that i had to read the news for my self. i have google chrome so i knew i could translate the website when i translated the website it said this.

Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.



When you read the premium part it says this "Premium car" would represent an attractive thing for you to reproduce at depth. Exterior (exterior) as well, especially in a high degree of repeatability in the interior if [Gran Turismo 5.

From race cars to commercial vehicles, instrument panel look different for each car, as well as seats and interior trim materials, colors ranging, thorough and reproduce.


When reading the two and comparing both descriptions and also looking at the premium picture and the standard car pic this is my conclusion

The standard cars interiors cannot be seen while watching a replay also when in cockpit view((im praying so bad we get some type of cockpit view) it will not match that cars actual interior it will be a generic version.

The premium cars interior will be visible through replay mode and cockpit mode fully detailed to the T.

So there you have please friends please feel free to express you thoughts on the whole ideal in a mature matter thank you.

Nice recap. *claps hands*

Yeah we just need at least a decent cockpit view for the standard models. Thats all. 👍
 
YZF

I don't know why you post this bro please explain the USA site and the japan site is slight different in the japan site has a little bulletin that say

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&#8251; "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.
 
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I don't know why you post this bro please explain the USA site and the japan site is slight different in the japan site has a little bulletin that say

&#8251; "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.

Your translation is *crap*
 
They knew we are not going to like that, so PD intentionally did not speak clearly about the cockpit issue, look how they did not include the sentence "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view in the English version of the site, that was done on purpose. I know it is time consuming to make all the cockpits but at least they can make a proper selection for the premium cars, Suzuki Cappuccino and other insignificant cars will have more details and cockpit views, and some of the greatest sport cars of all time like Renault Alpine, Renault 5 Turbo, Lamborghini Countach, Lancia Stratos will not, this is a complete joke. It shows incompetence and no marketing strategy at all.
 

ok thats cool it also says this - Premium cars&#8217; interiors are created with the minutest of details&#8232; - Harnesses, buttons, carbon fiber weave, wiring all virtually made

&#8232;- Undersides are detailed as a result of vehicle overturning&#8232;- Textures have been especially focused on during rendering

Again the Japanese official web site says that

"Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view. meaning they are not going to be detailed to the T they might be generic please read my post agin. im glad you posted your ideal however it still does not say anything about cockpit view
 
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I think most people would be happy with a standard generic cockpit. Its not exactly a massive task and one that could be implemented quite easily.
 
There's no point trying to make sense of it or getting hopes up. Obviously there won't be cockpit view for the Standard cars.

I hope there's no black PSP style thing. That would look rotten and make things even worse.
 
Another definition of correspond from websters dictionary..

to be in conformity or agreement <the ideal failed&#8230;to correspond with the reality &#8212; J. R. Sutherland> b : to compare closely : match &#8212;usually used with to or with c : to be equivalent or parallel

Notice the "to be equivalent or parallel. Meaning that the standard view is not equivalent to the premium. But it could also mean that the standard car does not agree with the interior view.
 
I think most people would be happy with a standard generic cockpit. Its not exactly a massive task and one that could be implemented quite easily.

No doubt bro As i said before if we go by the text we have read during the days from the gaming sites and everyone who did a review and PD official Japanese site it is being very clear i think we are so damn anxious for this game a couple affect are happing to GTP 1. Anxiousness 2. The new motto i see around here think negative so you don't get disappointed

It clearly says Premium cars will have interior views that will be fully recreated and visible standard cars will not have corresponding interiors nothing about cockpit views
 
ok thats cool it also says this - Premium cars’ interiors are created with the minutest of details&#8232; - Harnesses, buttons, carbon fiber weave, wiring all virtually made

&#8232;- Undersides are detailed as a result of vehicle overturning&#8232;- Textures have been especially focused on during rendering

Again the Japanese official web site says that "Standard Car" does not

correspond to the interior view. meaning they are not going to be detailed to the T they might be generic please read my post agin. im glad you posted your ideal however it still does not say anything about cockpit view

That part is very misleading. It talks about a premium feature under a standard section. If we follow the pattern of that list, it ends with:

- Physics damage &#8232;

- Scratches, dents, dirt accumulation

If we go by the official site and that link, interiors mean both cockpit and details under the bonnet.

But remember, we have to be careful with ourselves. Ever since we have been introduced with this premium, standard thing back at last year's TGS, many of us became in denial and remained optimistic. I think this is a bad thing because if what we are hoping doesn't happen to be the case, the disappointment within ourselves will be greater, like how it is now. Expect the worst and prepare for it.
 
YZF
Yes. Here it is:

"The standard car doesn't support an interior viewpoint."

Cool bro (O i love to debate remind me of my college days at Rutgers university 👍) My argument what translator do you use. My second argument is cant this also mean this is the same reason, when we saw the standard cars video we could not see the interiors of the cars. With the presidium cars we can clearly see the interior during replay mode right?
 
That part is very misleading. It talks about a premium feature under a standard section. If we follow the pattern of that list, it ends with:

- Physics damage &#8232;

- Scratches, dents, dirt accumulation

If we go by the official site and that link, interiors mean both cockpit and details under the bonnet.

But remember, we have to be careful with ourselves. Ever since we have been introduced with this premium, standard thing back at last year's TGS, many of us became in denial and remained optimistic. I think this is a bad thing because if what we are hoping doesn't happen to be the case, the disappointment within ourselves will be greater, like how it is now. Expect the worst and prepare for it.
sorry bro i will fix it that premium section is its on section
 
sorry bro i will fix it that premium section is its on section

So what does it mean to you if it says "Premium" cars in the same sentence. You'd take that as "Standard?"

Seriously though, we'd be better off trying to cope with the 800 standard cars not having cockpit view, otherwise we'd be under this situation again if the end of your argument is wrong. Things like this can lead a huge group of people to side with you, but with the possibility that huge group of people will come back disappointed....again.
 
You know how Kaz said we would be able to customize like never before? Maybe we can just customize our own interior and put it onto the standard models. :lol: If they don't have one already that is. :sly:
 
Another definition of correspond from websters dictionary..

to be in conformity or agreement <the ideal failed…to correspond with the reality — J. R. Sutherland> b : to compare closely : match —usually used with to or with c : to be equivalent or parallel

Notice the "to be equivalent or parallel. Meaning that the standard view is not equivalent to the premium. But it could also mean that the standard car does not agree with the interior view.

Thank you for the mature reply Your argument is strong in my opinion, however with those definition if we use them in the context comparing of what we saw so far from the standard cars. The standard cars interior do not show the matching interior that car has, Vs the premium interior during replay mode matches up with perfectly with that specific car.
 
U guys need to face it, no cockpits. Since PD has been listening to the forums lately then we can only hope that they will put cockpits in for DLC.
 
For me till now one thing is clear:

Premium you will get everthing up to a level unseen till now.

But what is really in for standard is guessing, till someone gets an opportunity to test.
It will be less then premium, but what does less mean? Quite convinced already about what was shown for standard, even these will provide lots of fun in the game.
 
So what does it mean to you if it says "Premium" cars in the same sentence. You'd take that as "Standard?"

Seriously though, we'd be better off trying to cope with the 800 standard cars not having cockpit view, otherwise we'd be under this situation again if the end of your argument is wrong. Things like this can lead a huge group of people to side with you, but with the possibility that huge group of people will come back disappointed....again.

They are in two different columns
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More than 200 car models included premium

Voluptuous body lines up with the sports Doraibingu****o sit, the view through the glass front to witness the first time, instrument panels and instrument reading lined up -. From exterior to interior, the car that "all visible things," is reproduced, this is a premium car.

[Gran Turismo 5 in this "premium car" alone has recorded more than 200 models.



From PD Japanese site

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More than 800 car models included standard


Go to movie page and click on the image
"Gran Turismo" with their huge number of cars included in the series, "PlayStation 3" and the current technology, what more beautiful reproduction of this car "standard" is.

The recording volume, how over 800 models. Age range, the richness of variety to choose from different categories, "Standard Car" will say the biggest attraction.

&#8251; "Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.
 
Cool bro (O i love to debate remind me of my college days at Rutgers university 👍) My argument what translator do you use. My second argument is cant this also mean this is the same reason, when we saw the standard cars video we could not see the interiors of the cars. With the presidium cars we can clearly see the interior during replay mode right?

Yes and no.In GT4 cockpit is somewhat visible.But even from external view difference is oblivious.
 
They are in two different columns
From PD Japan site
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Oh, I was talking about the other link, not the official site.

Also, I think I may have lost you in the argument there. I'm now confused on what we're talking about exactly. Sorry.
 
Oh, I was talking about the other link, not the official site.

Also, I think I may have lost you in the argument there. I'm now confused on what we're talking about exactly. Sorry.

Read first page bro hopefully its clearer for you 👍
 
Why are you doing this to yourself and to other people in the forum?

Standard cars wont have no cockpit. Start trying to live with it.
 
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