The Bourne Ultimatum

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Yeah, can't wait. The second was better, and Greengrass directed the third as well. 👍
 
I'm stoked. I loved the first two movies, and I'm looking forward to this one.

Forget James Bond... this is how a spy movie should be.
 
This is one of the films of the year for me, I'm looking forwards to it a lot.
 
I remember part 1 and i was sold, and part 2 was even better. So i will defiantly watch this movie:tup:
 
Go drink a Red Bull and see it - definitely the best of the trilogy. Non-stop adrenaline rush.
 
I've been a huge fan since the first one. I actually thought the "Identity" was just damn near perfect. "Supremacy", I liked it, but not nearly as much. I'm also a huge fan of Doug Liman, but that had nothing to do with my take on that!

P.S. Did anyone see this on Kimmel, last night? :lol:
 
The Ultimatum does indeed look good. I'll have to re-read the trilogy of books again and compare the books vs. the movies. I bet the books are better (as they always are), but I remember the first two movies being very good.
 
I saw this movie last night. The experience wasn't too enjoyable overall (no AC in a packed theater watching a 2 hour movie /= fun), but the movie was great! A good close to the trilogy.
 
I really need to see this because I want to see Bourne beat the hell out of a guy with a book.
 
a6m5
I've been a huge fan since the first one. I actually thought the "Identity" was just damn near perfect. "Supremacy", I liked it, but not nearly as much. I'm also a huge fan of Doug Liman, but that had nothing to do with my take on that!

P.S. Did anyone see this on Kimmel, last night? :lol:
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"No speaka English?" :lol:
 
Matt Damon - Who the hell are you?

Guillermo - I am Yayson Bon Identity..... :lol:

I don't know if you've watched the show, but at the end, Jimmy Kimmel close the show every night saying, "We apologize to Matt Damon, we ran out of time". Even the evening they showed this skit, Matt still didn't appear as a guest!
 
I watched this last night, it was very good. I would have left the audience wondering at the end rater than confirming one thing or another, I'm beig vauge for anyone that hasn't seen it in the UK yet. Overall, a decent third film, you don't say that too often.
 
Overall it was worth watching, but the shaky-cam business throughout the movie made me want to puke. They took the one thing I really hated about Supremacy and used it in every single freaking scene.

It might add a little intensity, but it subtracts greatly from the feel of the movie. This isn't blair witch, this is a fully funded blockbuster - film it right.
 
The shaky camera is quite a great addition.
It makes you feel like you're in the situation yourself.

And if anyone actually remembers the first movie quite well,
**Spoiler?**

Compare the first scene where you meet Matt Damon of the The Identity movie with the last one of Ultimatum. Great circle...
 
bisk
The shaky camera is quite a great addition.
It makes you feel like you're in the situation yourself.
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No, it doesn't. It makes me feel like I'm watching a movie. I don't normally shake my head all over the place like that. Every time the camera took an angle that I wouldn't be content to look with, or every time it shook when I was interested in what was going on, I was reminded that I'm looking through a camera controlled by someone else.

- When I'm trying to watch cool stuff happen, I don't shake my head. I sit still and concentrate
- When I'm trying to look at someone, I don't typically look at them with half of their face obstructed by someone else's shoulder.

No, the shaky cam was crap - damn near ruined the movie.
 
Well, if we were in that situation we would shake our heads frequently, but since the human eyes don't work the same way a camera does this "effect" doesn't work quite well.
 
Danoff
No, it doesn't. It makes me feel like I'm watching a movie. I don't normally shake my head all over the place like that. Every time the camera took an angle that I wouldn't be content to look with, or every time it shook when I was interested in what was going on, I was reminded that I'm looking through a camera controlled by someone else.

- When I'm trying to watch cool stuff happen, I don't shake my head. I sit still and concentrate
- When I'm trying to look at someone, I don't typically look at them with half of their face obstructed by someone else's shoulder.

No, the shaky cam was crap - damn near ruined the movie.
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Absolutely. The movie was enjoyable, but the "Shaky cam" nearly killed the feel. In all seriousness, it just about did it in.

Great movie made mediocre by a directors poor decision.
 
I truelly hate the Bourne films. Supremacy and this one aren't that bad (unlike Identity which i just hate), they just could have been so much better.
1 - Get a camera man that dosent have Parkinsons, the impressive sounding fight was exactly that, impressive sounding. I couldnt see what the hell was going on!
2 - Im sorry but Matt Damon is the wrong choice. He's got better as the franchise has gone on. But why couldn't they have given this to someone/anyone else!
 
I liked the shakey cam. It's supposed to kind of simulate the feel of being IN the fight, not watching two people fight. Didn't ruin the movie for me in the slightest.
 
I get it, but if i wanted to be in a fight, id go outside and punch someone in the nogin. I want to be able to see the fight.
Its not just the shakey cam, its combining shakey cam with PG13 far to close up-ness.
 
Zrow
I liked the shakey cam. It's supposed to kind of simulate the feel of being IN the fight, not watching two people fight. Didn't ruin the movie for me in the slightest.
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Finally someone with a sence of movie knowledge.
I mean, there were countless action movies made
where the camera literally stands still and you just see
the same old fight again between 2 guys, from the same angle etc...

Ah well, they're only like 1% of the people that didn't like it...:lol:
 
I haven't seen these shaky shots in Ultimatum, but from my experience, those shots are almost always horrible. I think they might have done it in Supremacy, also? They indeed do try to simulate something, and IMO, they fail everytime. In Identity, if there were any, they certainly did not go overboard with it. Fighting scenes in that I thought were very good. :)
 
I think its a tad more than 1% that dont like it. Its more like 50/50.

I have huge movie knowledge, and i don't mind them doing the shakey cam thing if i can see whats going on. But when they do it, and its zoomed in so far i can barely see a thing, then its truelly stupid. I don't mind it when it adds to something like a shuttle launch (Armageddon).

But if the next Jackie chan film has shakey cam in it, everyone would complain as they couldn't see his amazing stunts/moves.

I think they do it to disguise the fact that Matt Damon is about as convincing at fighting as Hayden Christensen is at acting :D

They didn't do it Identity i don't think, mainly cause it was a different director. I dont beleive we actually agree on something else a6m5!
 
bisk
Finally someone with a sence of movie knowledge.
I mean, there were countless action movies made
where the camera literally stands still and you just see
the same old fight again between 2 guys, from the same angle etc...
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It's a technique that I expect from a low-budget action film where they can't afford to hire a decent choreographer or spend any time on stunts. No, making your movie look like someone's home movie footage is not a good idea.
 
Danoff
It's a technique that I expect from a low-budget action film where they can't afford to hire a decent choreographer or spend any time on stunts. No, making your movie look like someone's home movie footage is not a good idea.
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Well, I just watched this recently. I enjoyed it very much, and I do recall the shaky camera. Annoyed the hell out of me in Supremacy, but I didn't even notice it here. I think I have just come to accept it, and I think it does work alot with conveying some of the insensity of the situations. I had no real trouble keeping track of the action because zoom is over one, unlike Transformers.

It is at least as good as Identity, if not better. About them closing off the end... they haven't. There is quite a bit left open and there are two more books by a different author regarding Jason Bourne.
 

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