Gran Turismo World Series 2024 Begins 17 April
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I had a break with online racing but with the official races - i am thinking about going Renault or Audi , MR car for sure fits better for me for a B pleb controller user 
- only downside will be the tyre wear eh
- only downside will be the tyre wear eh
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- moosethemooche78
For this next season of GTWS races, I'm using the same strategy for picking a manufacturer that I did for the last one: choosing from the least popular ones in my country last season that I haven't already used. In GT1, there were 5 manufacturers that nobody in Canada picked last season -- Citroen, Dodge, Hyundai, Renault, and Suzuki -- so I'm looking at these.
Since no schedule has been posted for the next season, I've started testing these by replaying the races from last season with these cars in Custom Races, starting from pole against a single rival car.
I've gotten through the first two races. Here's how things are stacking up so far...
Rd.1 - Grand Valley - Highway 1:
Along with lap times from each of tests -- such as they are:
Rd.2 - Deep Forest Reverse:
I chose the strategy on the fly based on how the tire wear was affecting my lap times, so I'm sure they weren't optimal.
And the lap times:
So far, I'm surprised by how well the Hyundai is doing, and how poorly the Renault is.
I'm not at all surprise about the Suzuki, though. I have really been struggling to figure out how to drive that thing. I know I need to short shift, but I'm still not able to get anywhere close to matching the pace of the other cars.
Since no schedule has been posted for the next season, I've started testing these by replaying the races from last season with these cars in Custom Races, starting from pole against a single rival car.
I've gotten through the first two races. Here's how things are stacking up so far...
Rd.1 - Grand Valley - Highway 1:
| Manufacturer | Model | Opt time | Best time | Total time | Avg time | Std Dev |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Citroen | GT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3) | 1:50.568 | 1:50.718 | 18:40.340 | 1:52.034 | 0:00.892 |
| Dodge | Viper SRT GT3-R '15 | 1:51.201 | 1:51.120 | 18:45.648 | 1:52.565 | 0:00.949 |
| Hyundai | Genesis Gr.3 | 1:50.572 | 1:50.633 | 18:41.170 | 1:52.117 | 0:00.979 |
| Renault | RS.0.1 GT3 '16 | 1:50.556 | 1:50.967 | 18:42.320 | 1:52.232 | 0:01.353 |
| Suzuki | SUZUKI VGT (Gr.3) | 1:51.393 | 1:51.651 | 18:48.383 | 1:52.838 | 0:01.736 |
Along with lap times from each of tests -- such as they are:
Rd.2 - Deep Forest Reverse:
| Manufacturer | Model | Strategy | Opt time | Best time | Total time | Avg time | Std Dev |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Citroen | GT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3) | 13RS-9RM | 1:26.959 | 1:27.337 | 32:38.212 | 1:29.010 | 0:02.821 |
| Dodge | Viper SRT GT3-R '15 | 8RS-14RM | 1:27.014 | 1:27.025 | 32:35.250 | 1:28.875 | 0:02.552 |
| Hyundai | Genesis Gr.3 | 14RS-8RM | 1:27.048 | 1:27.134 | 32:35.970 | 1:28.908 | 0:02.843 |
| Renault | RS.0.1 GT3 '16 | 12RS-10RM | 1:27.066 | 1:27.593 | 32:42.136 | 1:29.188 | 0:02.702 |
| Suzuki | SUZUKI VGT (Gr.3) | 14RS-8RM | 1:27.098 | 1:27.517 | 32:42.927 | 1:29.224 | 0:02.901 |
I chose the strategy on the fly based on how the tire wear was affecting my lap times, so I'm sure they weren't optimal.
And the lap times:
So far, I'm surprised by how well the Hyundai is doing, and how poorly the Renault is.
I'm not at all surprise about the Suzuki, though. I have really been struggling to figure out how to drive that thing. I know I need to short shift, but I'm still not able to get anywhere close to matching the pace of the other cars.
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Interemptor
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Gonna decide once I see what tracks we race on. In the end it's gonna be Lexus, Ferrari or Alfa I guess. Did AMG and Honda so far. Would like to Honda again because I love the NSX but you gotta try different things sometimes 😂
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One more bit of help for those undecided - this is a list of manufacturers by the drivetrains of their cars, so people who are picking something new but want to avoid, say, MR Gr.3s or FF Gr.4s can know what they're picking in advance.
I'm only listing cars you might actually use for manufacturers that could come under multiple headings - nobody is touching the FF Mégane, for instance, so Renault is only under MR/MR
FR Gr.3, FF Gr.4
FR Gr.3, FR Gr.4
FR Gr.3, 4WD Gr.4
MR Gr.3, FF Gr.4
MR Gr.3, FR Gr.4
MR Gr.3, MR Gr.4
MR Gr.3, 4WD Gr.4
I'm only listing cars you might actually use for manufacturers that could come under multiple headings - nobody is touching the FF Mégane, for instance, so Renault is only under MR/MR
FR Gr.3, FF Gr.4
- Mazda (using the Mazda3 in Gr.4)
- Suzuki
- Volkswagen (using the Beetle in Gr.3)
FR Gr.3, FR Gr.4
- Aston Martin
- BMW
- Chevrolet
- Dodge
- Ford (using the Mustang in Gr.3)
- Hyundai
- Jaguar
- Lexus
- Mercedes-AMG
- Nissan (using the Silvia in Gr.4)
- Toyota
FR Gr.3, 4WD Gr.4
- Genesis
- Mitsubishi
- Nissan (using the GT-R in Gr.4)
- Subaru
MR Gr.3, FF Gr.4
- Audi
- Peugeot
MR Gr.3, FR Gr.4
- Ford (using any Ford GT in Gr.3)
MR Gr.3, MR Gr.4
- Alfa Romeo (using the 4C in Gr.4)
- Citroën
- Ferrari
- Honda
- McLaren
- Porsche
- Renault
MR Gr.3, 4WD Gr.4
- Alfa Romeo (using the 155 in Gr.4)
- Lamborghini
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- guitargeek2112
Does anyone else feel like their performance is wildly different in these races than in the daily's? I do a lot of practice race prep for these, so maybe that's the difference, but every time I do daily's I question my abilities and DR, then I go do Manu Cup and feel like
"oh yeah, I guess I can do this."
For example, I tried 5 daily C last night... Watkins is a track I'm good at, I like group 4, I set a quali/practice time well quicker than my usual performance level (in proportion to the top time), NSX tire wear was passable. Yet still only had one decent race, and 4 bad ones (basically all my own doing, not the fault of other drivers). Yet, I get in the Manufacturer Cup, and more often than not I'm running in the top 5.
I know late night west coast USA time zone driving means thinned out pool (Randall Haywood was in my first 3 lobbies and I'm a low A, so not exactly an evenly matched lobby). But still, I wreck myself out, or miss a brake point and go off, get a silly penalty... something almost every race.
Anyway, eagerly awaiting the schedule so I can go practice and hopefully have a good season
"oh yeah, I guess I can do this."
For example, I tried 5 daily C last night... Watkins is a track I'm good at, I like group 4, I set a quali/practice time well quicker than my usual performance level (in proportion to the top time), NSX tire wear was passable. Yet still only had one decent race, and 4 bad ones (basically all my own doing, not the fault of other drivers). Yet, I get in the Manufacturer Cup, and more often than not I'm running in the top 5.
I know late night west coast USA time zone driving means thinned out pool (Randall Haywood was in my first 3 lobbies and I'm a low A, so not exactly an evenly matched lobby). But still, I wreck myself out, or miss a brake point and go off, get a silly penalty... something almost every race.
Anyway, eagerly awaiting the schedule so I can go practice and hopefully have a good season
It's a different mindset. In GTWS races you know you have more time, you've prepared, you know it counts so you're not going to try anything dumb... I do a lot better in them, too, I barely do daily races these days to try to protect my DR because I usually lose it there lol
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Dudes are generally taking a lot less risks with overtakes and line choices, as well as the big equalizer being one-shot qualifying, which generally does a good job of setting you where you should be in the grid.
For me personally, I do t put a lot of time into daily races qualifying, so I’m usually coming from somewhere near the back
For me personally, I do t put a lot of time into daily races qualifying, so I’m usually coming from somewhere near the back
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True. I don't do much daily in and around WS seasons because I spend the time practicing and prepping, and it protects the DR as a side effect. Side note, I just realized you're in Federal Way, that's only like half an hour from where I live. Small world!
For sure, and GT1 heavy damage may help there as well. I definitely notice T1 being a lot smoother in those races, especially the longer ones. And the one shot qualifying (in the car you intend to race)... I much prefer this model. All the FP time gaining consistency can really payoff there, as long as everyone understands to "leave a gap"!
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- OJBrit
I say picked. I randomise the process. The only clue I'll give away is that it will require a bit of testing before some of the rounds.
Combo shombo! I'm not going to the world tour so I don't have to match it. More power to you for doing so.
I randomise my choice otherwise I'll either be stuck not being able to pick or end up in the Jaaag everytime.
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- moosethemooche78
I'm definitely in the same boat. In daily races, I tend to place in the mid-pack, while in the GTWS events, I consistently do better. I'm guessing that is down to a few things:
- Preparation and practice - I spend quite a lot of time practicing for these races in advance. I feel like I'm better prepared for them than a lot of drivers.
- Closer matching - Because of the limited number of GTWS slots there is a bigger pool of drivers in each one. That makes for a narrower range of DR levels in each lobby, compared to Daily Races.
- In-race qualifying - I'm not so great at buffing my qualifying time for Daily Races, so I tend to start further back. In the GTWS events, I'm usually able to bank a decent lap, so I'm starting much closer to the front.
- Longer races - I find my driving style is better suited to these longer races. I might not have the best pace on the track, but I can often get through the race without any serious self-inflicted wrecks. I see a lot of faster drivers pushing too hard and binning it as a result.
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Exactly the same for me. I usually need some time to really get into the race and when I'm finally in my grove the daily race are, most of the time, over.
I only really enjoyed the longer one, Suzuka 20 laps was a good example.
I hope the next season brings longer races (in GT2). I would love 10 laps Nordschleife or 30 laps Spa... or something in that direction. 😅
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- guitargeek2112
I own a Ford so... gimme that super overpowered BOP mistake from the last update
If GT1 is still only Group 3, I'm considering running the RCZ. I drives well for me, and it's less common in the Americas region. But if it's 3 and 4, I'll stick to my trusty AMG or maybe try out Porsche.
If GT1 is still only Group 3, I'm considering running the RCZ. I drives well for me, and it's less common in the Americas region. But if it's 3 and 4, I'll stick to my trusty AMG or maybe try out Porsche.
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- Hasnain282
Looks like we'll be getting announcements for this today
Though judging by the reactions of the Esports drivers on Twitter they're not happy with whatever format that PD have come up with
Though judging by the reactions of the Esports drivers on Twitter they're not happy with whatever format that PD have come up with
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The vibe I'm getting is that the event has been cut down a ton, and I don't think its a coincidence a change like that would follow off the heels of the big Sony layoffs.
I'm pretty sure it's public knowledge Sony lose an insane amount of money doing GTWS so it really wouldn't surprise me to hear they're forcing PDs hand and trying to put a cap on those losses.
We will see though, this could age like milk.
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Veterans are voicing displeasure ahead of the schedule release:
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I own a Toyota. I'm picking Toyota. Simples.
I own a Ford so... gimme that super overpowered BOP mistake from the last update
If GT1 is still only Group 3, I'm considering running the RCZ. I drives well for me, and it's less common in the Americas region. But if it's 3 and 4, I'll stick to my trusty AMG or maybe try out Porsche.
Well, if this is the vibe then I'll not be picking Lamborghini.
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If it’s an ownership thing I’d be down to 3; Subaru, Peugeot, Mitsubishi. But I could also make historical claims for Ford and Mazda.
Instead, I’m leaning towards Alfa or Jaguar.
Instead, I’m leaning towards Alfa or Jaguar.
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So I am gathering they're no longer going to do in-person events for the top qualifiers? That is my guess and if that's the case, that sucks. I really liked watching those and participating in guessing who'd win for in-game credits.
