In what is presumably the last of Kazunori Yamauchi’s round of interviews to emerge from his time at Snetterton, he’s made a comment regarding the development status of the big game:
“Gran Turismo 5 is about 90 percent finished. There are currently around 140 people working on the project.”
That arbitrary number doesn’t mean much, but some of you may recall that’s the same thing he told USA Today back in January at CES 2010. At the time, though, the game was set for a March release in Japan, and we all know how that turned out. While these numbers were most likely pulled out of thin air, the lack of progress could be due to a significant setback in development or features have been added or improved. Regardless, we do know that it still won’t have everything that Yamauchi wants (head over to Edmund’s Inside Line for the full interview):
The developer claimed the driving simulator would not be released until it “satisfied everyone’s wishes and then exceeded them.” He admitted that not everything he had hoped for will be included in the game but wouldn’t elaborate on what was missing. Instead, he insisted that GT5 marked the most significant step forwards since the original game was launched in 1997 and that the introduction of online gaming had, “dramatically changed the way the game is designed.”
So, what’s getting left out? Did head-tracking get the axe? Perhaps it’s the rumored track-editor? (Please, no!) While that’s a little worrisome, improvement in online functionality is probably the most anticipated aspect of GT5, so it will be interesting to see how it’s eventually incorporated. Thanks to Loren for the tip!
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It takes the same amount of time to finish the last 20% of a project, as it does to get to the 80% mark. The last 20% is polishing, which means we have only seen half of what we will see in terms of visual quality. This will be amazing!
@dustyr
You understand it’s an estimate they say just to get you exited thats what Best Buy does if you go to their site it clearly reads Gran Turismo’s release date will be on June or somthing rather. But you get the idea don’t beleive everything you hear and read. Wait for an OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT from KY.
Sony has been a pain in the a** for quite some time now. I was lured into buying the PS3 for three reasons – Media Player capabilities, YellowDog 6.0 and Gran Turismo 5. Sony did not kick against the installation of YellowDog – they were silent until they’ve sold enough.
Now to my disappointments:
1. I found out the hard way that PS3 cannot play even the most popular .mkv file. A media player that costs 20 bucks can do it painlessly.
2. Its over two years now I bought my PS3 with the hope that Gran Turismo will soon be released. The Prologue version is ok, but it was not this version that made me buy it. I don’t usually play games but I made Car-Race an exception. I gave up waiting some last month, now I know that I will have to do without this game because the PS3 no longer has a place in my sitting room. Why? Just read the next reason.
3. Recently I was forced to install the latest PS3 Software, and by doing this I lost my YellowDog partition which took me lots of hours to install and configure. I needed the YellowDog installation to browse the web with FireFox. My daughter plays Little-Big-Planet online; you cannot imagine how she felt when I initially rejected the software which was one of the requirements to keep her online activities. I didn’t have any choice but to accept, thereby forfeiting the possibility of using other OS such as YellowDog.
All wouldn’t have mattered so much but for the last reason.
I was fed up so I kicked the PS3 out of my living room and built myself a HTPC last month. Guess what, I enjoy high quality Blu-Ray (Avatar was WAO!), I enjoy HDTV, the system plays ALL media files thrown at it, streams online media (Maxdome, CNN-Videos, YouTube, online radio, etc.), I enjoy the simplicity and efficiency of Firefox, I play light Games (NFS Shift, Dirt 2, Grid) with fantastic Resolutions and at the same time silent – PS3 is far much louder.
My HTPC is perfect now and I couldn’t have asked for more! I must agree that it takes time and energy to configure one, but when you are done and your system is backed up (you really do not want to do this twice); you will be dammed for enjoyment.
What the hell was I thinking buying PS3? One word; “MISLED”.
All I see in my head at this point is Kaz standing on his desk with a copy of GT5 yelling out “you can never get this!” in Borat’s voice :p
@DIM
Fair point, Codemasters produce solid race games, but that’s my point, they are nothing more than “adequate” and not the type of game you can really deeply delve into over a long period of time. I was disappointed with the content in Dirt 2 (limited tracks, very arcade car handling) even though I got it for less than $20.
I think Need for Speed Shift had much better car handling and physics, hell, even Project Gotham Racing did. I can’t speak about Grid – I only played the demo of that and didn’t like it.
I think E3 will have 20 or so minutes dedicated to GT5.
I expect it to be a reveal on its features, also being shown to the audience.
But goodness… I want bots in the 2 player offline multiplayer mode, please!!!
@fade
Codemasters has been producing solid racing games for many years now and so far the game looks gorgeous on the various previews and videos. Don’t mix it up with NFS which is fun but very shallow.
Obviously you cannot compare F1 2010 with GT5 (different type) and even more when we haven’t played both games.
But Codemasters has been giving us frequent and very informative updates on game features in a period of about only few months + WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE a release date.
GT5 is a complete P.R. mess and if at least we had something more specific and detailed on its features (let alone a release date) I would be the first to shut-up.
I think everybody is fed up of yet another GTR/tokyo track footage.
“””JordanSays: May 5th, 2010 at 12:48 am I think you’re thinking of those screenshots of the online race menu options, where weather conditions are shown for the local track. No video of dynamic weather has ever been released.”””
Nope it definitely wasn’t just screenshots. It was a video I saw on Youtube while searching around by myself a few weeks ago. The people were talking about dynamic weather and navigating through the dynamic weather menu while talking about the feature in some detail. I figured everyone else must have seen it so I didn’t pay much attention to it.. I’ll try to find it again..
When ever it comes out on which ever console 3 or 4 most likely 4 I’ll buy it. Lucky thing I didnt waste money and buy a ps3 yet
Sometimes I watch Speed channel and pretend Im watching Gran turismo 5
Hmmm, I don’t like the fact that GT5 was promise to be release in March and still not there, I don’t like when people spit the word even if its only a word.
This is the longest time we have to wait for proper racing game for SONY PS3 and my speculations are Sony is doing with Kazori what he want, I just hope they using vaseline.
NFS Shift is parody of simulation game but at the moment is beter then nothing
@DIM
There were always games with more features than GT.
Just as there were always real time strategy games with more features than Starcraft.
Just as there are phones with more features than the iPhone.
Just as there will always be people who use tech-specs and bullet points to decide things without considering more humanistic features such as refinement, quality, polish, depth – which arguably can take more engineering and development time.
F1 2010 will be an enjoyable but probably quickly forgotten shovel-ware product in the bargain bins come January 2011 with everyone hoping F1 2011 will be better. Just life Forza 3. I don’t think GT5 will be a flash in the pan when it eventually surfaces.
Aslong as it still has the ability to play the game with real friends sat next to me, ill love it =].
What a great step forward
@Steady_Dave..
Couldn’t agree with you more mate!! It’s been known since the build up to GT2 that it probably isn’t a great idea to take anything Kaz says too seriously, especially regarding release dates.
I’ll admit I bought my PS3 when I did with GT5 in mind, but I have plenty of other games to fill in the time til it finally gets released, and also a life!!
This is disappointing very.. If there is no dynamic weather or livery editing or any other feature that will make the game diffrent from Amy other racer out there then ky should just stop now
Has no-one got anything better to do that moan about this game all the time?
Does anyone remember the other releases of GT? This is what they do!
I was dissapointed when March was dropped for the release but not angry. I’m sure this game will be great.
Oh and don’t believe the 90% stuff. He won’t have calculated the progress of every little thing that’s going on and comeout with that figure. That just means it’s pretty much ready, just final tweaks.
Seriously though cheer up people, yes we’ve seen little but what we’ve seen has been amazing!
@ gazcanuk…
ahhh. The Oracle speaks. I missed the 7.30am deadline for putting the bins out this morning, so I will wait for next year now. Makes sense to only do things on an annual cycle.
This will drop no earlier than March 2011. Sony want to release this in March. They missed the deadline this year, will refine the game further with a worldwide release March 29th 2011.
E3 should bring alot of footage of things we havnt seen yet , And hopefuly an official final release date so we can pre order it. Just think. Dog fights with Ferraris and Astons and Lamborghinis around the Top Gear test track!!
I`m glad I bought an Xbox360 too.. main reason was halo, but I bought Forza 3 too and with the Fanatec Porsche it`s amazing .. I can wait for gt5 now, doesn`t bother me that much anymore. ^^
5 years in the making and no dynamic weather?? is this the perfection of KY?
F1 2010 has been confirmed not only to have dynamic weather but to have different grip levels every 30 square centimeters of track – drying lines etc. That’s what I call perfection – at least on paper/specs and until we get our hands on it.
and we are still talking about “if” dynamic weather exists in GT5 after 5 years???
Okay, lets see.
5 years in development. This means near 60 months.
If it is true that it is 90% complete then that means only 10% left of course.
60m/90% = Xm/100%
600/90 = 6.67months left
6months from today is November. So Based on an estimation. The game will be released probably around November or December 2010. This time frame is believable to me.
Actually now that I think about it, I saw a video where they showed dynamic weather.. so that will probably be in GT5. Can’t remember if they just showed the menu for dynamic weather or if they showed it in-game too. Wish I could find that vid on Youtube.
I think you’re thinking of those screenshots of the online race menu options, where weather conditions are shown for the local track. No video of dynamic weather has ever been released.
For the last freaking time…damage is NOT THE REASON FOR THE DELAY!
GTMobile, obsessive compulsive Yamadouche, and the people who want THEIR 1972 Datsun
pickup truck in the game are the reason GT5 is taking so long to complete. 1,000 cars…
I would have been tickled to death with 300-400 quality cars and 20+ tracks.
But no, Kaz has to make sure the Toyota Prius is in the game…
I’m with you Havok
I’m sick and tired of being teased, it’s getting old, 5 years now.
I’m with you on that HaVoK_. They show us so little… very frustrating.
I think all the delay is due to the (childish) car damage that people kept asking and pushing for. What’s wrong with the time penalty, it was working fine. Is it really nice and fun to watch damaged cars! The time penalty can be made to be adjustable for individual races. Car damage my ***.
I truly hope that more information is released at E3. I’m not a fan of being teased with little morsels of information for years..I really have no idea as to why it’s so hard to post some pics of some more tracks or vehicles.
@George
@ it seem your a 360 fanboy, and you don’t own a PS3, you posted 360 exclusive games and some multi platforms, but you missed a lot of great exclusive games on the PS3, then you PS3 is not needed lol, you fail dude.
360 is weak console, MS are losing a lot of first and second party developers, and Sony are buying developers year by year, now they have over 30 awesome and great game developers companies.
I’m dying to know the contents of this game.
@pegaz2507
couldnt of said it better myself. well said
this feels like when you have the 24h races that you have to do on b-spec and just don’t want to do to get to 100 percent on gt4
i predict 10th december 2010, for release.
I own need for speed shift.i .It gets boring after a while.Its fun.Its a game for kids,nothing more.I dont want it to be fun, I want it to be intense.That is what GRAN TURISMO is! Hope for some good info at E3,dynamic weather?yeababy!!
I own need for speed shift.It gets boring after a while.I own it for 3 months and dont play it anymore.It is a game for kids,nothing more. Its fun,but I dont want it to be fun, I want it to be intense!Thats what GRAN TURISMO is! Hope for big news at E3,dynamic weather?yeababy!!!
Went into gamestop today and asked about my pre order… Buddy at the desk told me sept 24 and then got in shit from his boss because he wasn’t suposed to tell me they had a set date for release from sony
GT PSP has fine graphics BUT no story ,no feed back (shock, vibration, no real feeling of simulation .. no appel.
My opin… Best driving experince what you can get (without Wheel) is from NFS Shift.
@ George…. And yet, you leave your jungle to come back here and check the status of GT5…
The wait is frustrating for any of us, but i know you will come back to the PS3 some day and forever :P
YEP.. as i sad …i moved to 360 and i have fun… each day more one 360 … less i will miss no GT5.
@ George…. And yet, you leave your jungle to come back here and check the status of GT5…
The wait is frustrating for any of us, but i know you will come back to the PS3 some day and forever :P
I have PS2 i liked GT3, GT4p, GT4. Then PS3 come out for new “GT5”. The only reason why I bought PS3 vs 360 was GT5.
Now it’s almost 2,5 years that i don’t run Ps3 because i moved to 360 and i have fun… each day more one 360 … less i will miss no GT5.
I’m sure that buying Ps3 was mistake … they can’t build Gt5 that will have added value of 600€ (value of Ps3 when i bought).
I have GT5P… i’ve played 1 month. So Gt5 is dead for me.
On 360: best ever are NFS Shift, FM2 and FM3 Cod4,5, MW2, yes BF2, … no need for Ps3.
Still rooting for GT5.
It would be better if PD says it will be delayed until next year, rather than making people expect that it will be released anytime soon. so many excuses, but no progress being made. very disappointing for such a great game. So whats holding them up for telling the truth?
A track editor, as well as a livery editor, adds nothing at all to the driving experience. In fact, a track editor, if not complemented by gameplay design, is 1990s. I can vividly remember all the Mods for first person shooters, new maps and all. Very, very few were actually worth while bothering.
I doubt there are many individuals with the skills to actually improve on something the developers can come up with. If anyone bothers, take a look at Midnight Club 3 – Rockstar paid tremendous attention to “route” design – I doubt with the higher demands of a “sim” game this can be achieved easily. Furthermore, key should be bringing as many people as possible online racing and enjoying themselves. T10 has not quite achieved this, many people were just far too happy spending time painting their cars than actually race them.
The question remains: how to bring together a very large number of people with different skills together racing AND enjoying themselves.
How to make a true and better experience for any- and everyone. If PD knows the answer, they truly surprise me. I don’t want “more”. More content, more cars, more tracks, more possibilities, more realism.
It’s about time gameplay is re-invented, which is a tough call if you have saloon cars going round in circles.
So, impress me away, but PD most certainly can’t surpass my expectations. That’s quite impossible by now, because I expect GT to be larger than life “Über”-game. No developer on earth can fulfil this. Unless you happen to be Team ICO.
How dare they trying to polish a game and do the best they can? PD is a Joke, But Activation and EA are not a joke lol
With no news on if a track editor, livery editor, day and night cycles (the only stage shown a night was Route 5 or clubman which is nothing new) and weather conditions will make it in the game a I am fearful after reading this interview. The only thing confirmed is 3d and gps data logger. PD or more likley Sony, seems more intrested in advertising new technology with GT5 than provide a gaming experience to the people that really care about the franchise. They are aiming for a different target. And I think it is us gamers who will be sacrifced to achieve these aims.
it seems that the PD team is running trouble with their work team, maybe PD needs bigger team to hurry up this slow GT build (PD is trying to bild a huge skyscraper with small team), and maybe PD is worried of some gaming spies and dont hire new employees… lol, new theory.. anyway.. HIRE NEW EMPLOYEES, so there will be like 500 people working on it, faster release dates means MORE MONEY and other good stuff so the GT can evolve and grow faster :)
Personally I think that the game is done, but Sony wants PD to implement their 3DTV with GT5, so because of that the game isn’t coming out.
Probably the game was done in 2009, but because of Sony’s 3DTV crap the game is being delayed and delayed.
Sony is being complicated sense past few years, and with all the removing other OS thing.
They should had release GT5 on PS3 in 2008, and work on GT6 for the 3DTV and Camera movement thing and Car damages.
Let’s be real here, most of us PS3 owners buy PlayStation just because of GT.
memo –
Iam upgrading my grades at the moment and Iam at math now and I have to say I couldnt agree with you anymore. That math just told us the truth!
It makes sense, it was 90% complete but now there are extras added it’s still at 90%. I just hope the improvements are across the whole game. If 3D wasn’t mentioned then I would be expecting dynamic weather and lots more exciting features but my fear now is it will be the same game as the expected March release but with a 3D option.
And at 90% complete we know hardly anything. One video showing briefly the new damage, a WRC stage, a tuned car and a few other bits would keep people happy and talking for weeks. Please do something as I’m fed up with the 3D doom and gloom!
guys don’t want to dissappoint you but a track editor these days will be too difficult to implement in such a high tech game.
it’s not just adding blocks of straights,45′ 60′ and 90’turns like in that old PC game “Stunts” (great by the way but it was the early 90s). it will be too complicated for simple users like us to handle. just my opinion.
as one guy said above all my hopes for the moment are on F1 2010 and at least I know I’ll be playing it by September… the features and the career mode seem very very promising.
I’d like to create a track with a looping. I know, this doesn’t exist on a real track, but would bring a lot of fun. And some real steep-corners (is that the correct word ?) where you almost drive vertically or head down
Is a Track Editor basically like what they have in Little Big Planet? If we could download and share our ideas of tracks… man.. that would be amazing.
Here’s a few things you can stick in the sin bin.
Head tracking: seriously I’m playing a game in my lounge room. I’m not strafing civilians in my apache gunship.
Track Editor: Who has the time? Really? Unless you’re 10 years old with 16 weeks of school holidays per annum you are probably going to be happy with the in game courses and tracks. If you are said 10 year old you probably don’t have the necessary attention span to use the editor anyways.
Does Sony not remember that the original audience is now 15 years older than they were with the original GT? While I’ve been waiting for the Ultimate PS3 Driving simulator I’ve done a stint in the forces, gotten married, pumped out a clone, and found a real job where i get to slave away from dawn til dusk. I won’t be editing virtual tracks on saturday afternoon with my 30 year old bff’s, talking about boobies and funny poo’s. (at least while the wife’s home)
By the time this is released we’ll all have arthritis, grandchildren, and moth balls in our pockets.
I strongly disagree with you on the track editor, FatherTime. The game will be played by millions of very interested people around the world who, with a robust (key word) track editor, could bring infinite depth to the game for everyone. You wouldn’t have to actually use such a feature to benefit greatly from it.
Yo Kaz. Imma let you finish. But Forza 3 will be the best racing game of all time!
you know what makes things even worst is that they don’t release any other info. no car list, no track list, nothing. i would love a new trailer, at least. that 90% is complete fiction and I figure that they are trying to get features in that they would kill for. They can easily do a title update for those desired features, but I doubt that is in the mind of KY. Just a demo would be fine, or even a car and track dlc(not too expensve. edit: fuck that, free!) for prologue. a community manager would be nice.
let’s put the estimated left time to release in equations in order to see if sony is manipulating us by saying it will be realeased this year or this time they turns telling us the truth.
if we may say 90 % is done in 5 yr and there is 10 percent left …. this means:
Assume: X= the estimated left time to release
90 % —- 5 yr
10 % —- X ====> X= (10% * 5) / 90% = 0.56 yr
This means: the estimated left time to release = 0.56 * 365 = 204.4 days = 6.8 months
Since we are in May – fifth month -, we can add ruffly 7 months.
So guys……..
The math has spoken so is SCE and the math logic tells us this time they may tells us the truth. So, it will be released this year and to be precise that the game well be released by Christmas.
Marks the comment guys to check it later. ;)
90 percent complete???…still??? Must have been 90.0125 percent complete towards the end of last year or whatever. Now we’re dealing with it being 90.475 percent complete.
damn not enough percentage points to round up to 91 percent.
post back in a couple of months (hopefully) when its 95 percent complete. I would hate to put a further rush on PD.
Lets hope for an annoucement at E3 that its 92.5 percent complete. Again…I would hate to put a further rush on PD.
/sarcasm and disgruntled.
hah not even surprised. I won’t even be surprised if the game turns out to be a huge disappointment as people have huge expectations due to the delay.
It’s May and we have no release date. Simply put we are at least four months out given they need that much time to market once announced. So at best, if a release date is given next month at E3 it won’t be before Oct. Most likely it will be Nov. or Dec. At this point I’m just looking forward to F1 2010 from Codemasters. If only they would make a GT racing series based on LeMans or FIA GT1…
now to be honnest i have been waiting for this game since i completed gt4 roughly 2 week after it was released. This next paragraph some might and might not agree with me on but im not o fussed if it causes a rift or not, they are my views either agree or disagree but done give me crap over it.
here goes.
i cant see why PD couldnt have relased a game say for example in march 2k10, without features such as 3-D mode (which personally i think is a waste as i do not have the money, or motivation to go out and spend £1100+ on a tv giving 3d stuff) without head tracker, track editor etc, just the tacks and cars on the full game, so we can at least have something to play with, and then if they so desire release the 3d software, head tracker, track editor and that via updates and differant downloadable versions to install onto it. Personally speaking if i dont have a 3-d tv, or the ability to use head tracker technology then i dont want gb’s worth of data stored on my ps3 never to be used, waste of space.
alex
Some of us have probably heard that NFS Shift 2 is a strong possibility, not this year, but maybe the next (apparently EA wants to develop higher quality games, not just pump out sequels every year). This is great news. If we want any chance of being heard we should speak now while the game is in early/pre- development.
I think the sequel needs:
* Dynamic weather
* Dynamic time-of-day (ie. endurance races run into the night)
* Upgrades for Tier 4 cars (even if only works)
* Works upgrades for every car (I want a works Veyron)
* Simulation mode above Pro mode with more realistic handling
* A slower-paced career (Tier 1 and 2 were over WAY too quickly in the current career) with a different structure, the tiered arcade interface is a bit underdone.
* More detailed upgrades for we car nuts (just like there is quick tune and pro tune, there should be quick upgrade and pro upgrade)
* Obviously more cars and tracks, but the current selection is so awesome they should keep those too.
I would describe driving in FORZA like watching a movie on an old fashioned tube TV from the 90’s while driving in SHIFT is like watching a movie in 3D at the cinema,..MUCH more drama and a hell of a lot more fun,…cant understand why so many people hate it!
The way the car cockpit jolts forward as you change gear and the sidesof the road are just a blur as you scream down the track at 150mph,..the way the head cam moves as you steer also is really clever because lets face it no drivers head ever stays still when driving. All these little details are what makes driving these cars exciting, I really hope they make a SHIFT 2.
@CanAm1968
Exactly what I was gonna say … but with waaayyyy less profanity. Well done.
I reallly wish it gets released sometime just after the summer, I have waited many years to play this game, and i want to be able to play it before i go off to college…
Here we go again…Kaz seems to be eating his word of “we can release it whenever we want”. Apparently, he cannot release a 90% completed game because none of have a copy.
Dear Kaz: (if you are following)
This is your loyal fans. We dont mind waiting longer for the game because we trust its going to be the best racing simulation game ever made for a console. We also know it won’t have everything you want in it but thats ok because there is always GT6 coming. Also: What we really want is for you to attend E3 armed with as much information as you can give us like cars and track lists as well as the main features the game will have. Please also have a release date that we can solidly bank on. I dont want to hear a sugarcoated date (like the 2010 Christmas holdays) just because you think it will make me happy. We just want the truth. Thanks and good luck! Sincerely – Your Loyal Fans
Nice letter?
It’s cool – it’s ok!! and not to forget 90% is better then 80%..
But Ya I too, wouldn’t count on a 2010 release..
At least release the Time limited Demo to the public then, I would rather drive on the Tokyo circuit then see more photos of it,
and yes it’s some more work on top of the last 10%, but !! that would calm the public for ½ a year or so, including Me :O)
Trust me K.Y it’s better that way, and you will have a more relaxed developing time for the rest of the game, and not to forget ,copying and packing the whole lot for the big world of GT Fans :O)
I second my self_♥_
Lets Have the Demo, that so many other people have tried, and we wont judge the Game from the demo, because we have your word on the final quality!! The PSN store needs something real for a change, It’s a doll boring place to spend time on as it has been for ages ( Sony needs to step up there game ass well ) Easy as Pie/cake
Best Regards
TeamMoFF-No2(DK)
jesuschrist, this is hopeless..
I really hope we will get some good info at e3.t This is getting apsurd!
I didn’t expect to hear 90% finished again like we did back in January, but I’m taking a shot in the dark and say that Kaz continues to ‘wing’ things like it most likely since both he/PD and Sony want to keep things as secretive as possible. Only downside to the wait (aside from not playing it) is I have a big feeling review scores are going to suffer even if GT5 pans out to be the best of the best with almost no issues.
I’m shocked only 140 people are working on it. Def should be more in my book.
Update: Gran Turismo 5 is NOW at 60% (its going backwards!).
@Ekans
Negative, i will buy and play GT5 even if review scores are below 0,0.
Kaz to us: “I @#$% tired of making this *&$#@ game for you guys, i would rather experience the real thing and drive for myself on real circuits, nothing beats real life, not even 3D. Good Luck waiting, so long $uck37s !!! “
kazunori drive vln since 2009 & now 24h of nürburgring in two weeks . So he can’t made a game in the same time …
The real problem will be the customers who think they need to be able to drift a 500hp car with their dual shock controller…GT5 will be a compromiz
The review score is a bit irrelevant because it’ll be heavily dependent on whether the reviewer is a sim fan, or someone who thinks powerslides at 300mph is realistic.
i expect nothing less than a 9.7 review scores because im not having it and WILL BOYCOTT the game if gets any lower. ANYONE with me to BOYCOTT the game if it doesnt live up?
I went back and translated the original answer KY gave in Japanese, he actually said, “I hear it’s amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock. I need scissors! 61!”
LOL thats what the colonel sais in MGS2 when he goes crazy.
10% is 2 years :(
Don’t worry.
Be happy.
KY…release the game finally! I think I am speaking for all GT-Fans: We don’t want to wait any longer – MAKE IT SIMPLY HAPPEN AND RELEASE GT5
I’m agreeing that they could release the game and add extra cars or track editing or any other extra via DLC. I’d really be willing to pay for a track editor and extra cars, as long as they release the game sooner!
This is getting very annoying, I’m really starting to lose respect for KY and especially SONY. Save 3d for GT6.
well its coming for xmass :)
and on the unrelated when that game finally does come out we can try to beat the 599XX time on the ring :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAL6XFfXDO8&feature=player_embedded
What??? There is still 90% of the work to go through?? only 10% has been accomplished so far ??
There must be an error in translation! … :P or at least it seems…
Time is really dragging, Im glad this game is going to be amazing.
@ TRC IVORBIGUN
What I say it true.
“Then in Forza 2, we got up to about 250. We increased our [full-time] staff, increased our [contract] staff, and increased the number of people in India and Vietnam. And now, for Forza 3, we’re just over 300, all-in, with again [contract], [full-time], and a fully-burdened outsource group. And that’s been pretty much since the beginning. ”
This one better post >_>. I’ve tried 3 times to post this, but I think posting the link of the source is blocking me from posting.
What an joke… Is this man really serious? The most important thing for him seems like that HE can play the game but not WE…
GREAT NEWS Mr. K.Y. !!! now let’s have some even more Tokyo circuit footage…
This is becoming a really bad joke.
Could this not mean that although it might have been 90% finished in January, the ‘delay’ (‘delay’ because an exact date was never set, therefore it’s not really delayed) means they can put more in the game, meaning what was 90% finished then became 70% finished (for example), and now they’ve worked on it harder to make it 90% finished given that the 100% finished game is now bigger than it would have been if it launched in March?
I mean, we all know Sony is deliberately holding this back so they have a flagship 3D game, thus helping to sell their 3D TV’s (and let’s be honest, they’re going to need some seriously awesome incentives to get people to replace their already new HDTV with a 3D one…). Given that they’ve effectively had their deadline extended, KY will want to use that time to pack more into the game instead of sit on the finished product for half a year (assuming the March date was ever likely).
With this reasoning, I for one am not hugely bothered about waiting even longer for GT5. I have absolute faith it’ll be worth waiting for, and to that end I’m happy to wait. Oh and there’s also the fact that I rarely believe anything any studio says, therefore I mostly disregard anything PD says and just go on what I have seen thanks to the videos posted here.
We are humans and not material i can´t hear it anymore, PD is annoying!! Realease PLEAAASE :D !!!
Hmm. i think we already know that GT5 is 90% done, but this is a surpsrise, now it should have been finished and copied 10.000.000.000 times and sent out.
Only 90% after how many years? There’s no way it’s coming out in 2010. :(
@ ferhoundSays: Because GT5 probably won’t have dynamic weather. It sux, but it’s probably true.
I have to say this is quite disappointing, I have no other words on this status update.
On the other hand 140 people is a pathetic number for this HD generation, 140 people is less than Rockstar had working on GTA 3 in 2000!.
Go out and hire some people Sony, you stingy bastards.
the 90% is never ending history !!!
nam nam nam date date date !!!
I hope there will be dynamic weather. Why is it never mentioned on this site, I dont know.
Perhaps the day/night or varying yet dynamic weather conditions were dismissed due to difficulties developing the system. It could be that we may only be able to select the time of day or weather conditions for an entire race. Just speculation of course.
I think that in a game like GT5, the 10% is a very huge part of the game…
The comments above (DrTrouserPlank and hank87) are so funny! ……unfortunatly true.
I think GT5 should wait until 2025 and have full Virtual Reality support using a Sony built green wall! ;-)
VR support maybe, but it still wont have Porsches though! ;-)
Guys, please stop listening to KY. He’s just tired of people asking the same question in every interview. This game will release soon after E3: September is looking good:)
yer they should tell us wat will definatly be in the game and wat the 10% left is and ps for the U.S guys thinking gt academy is just polishing up skills, its not. it takes days on end of doing just that little better than before, its tough i was once 413 best in aus and slowly than number got biger and bigger that lap tim ov 1min 29.130sec was as good as it got 4 me and that took months and i couldn’t just DO better. trust me IF the U.S gets gt academy it is much harder and agrivating than it looks.
dont get ur hopes up
In my opinion the delay of the release of this game is all about 3D technology and its marketing… Cause you can’t say we have it 90% done and then say it’s up to sony for the release…
Gran Turismo 5 is hold back by SONY to put some interesting features into it like 3D and (perhaps) controls per the new MOVE controller. Sony knows that there are really fanatic racing fans that will spent thousands of Euros/Dollars/Pounds to get their special realistic racing sim. A lot of fans will (have to) buy the console at all, perhaps a new racing wheel and – “Oh, there’s 3D support?” – a new 3D ready TV as well. That’s MY opinion.
Sony needs a real “burner” (so it’s called in Germany) to sell their new hardware stuff and GT5 is one of the best opportunities to do so – if not THE best.
So we’ll have to wait until Polyphony Digital got all the new features in it. And then it’ll be GRAND – without a 3D ready TV, too! :-D
“90% complete.” Until they decide to add another hardly used feature (like 3d, head tracking and the gps data logger), that will the release date back even further. If these features have been included at the expense of a track editor, livery editor I would be very dissapointed. The game should if anything include all these features. Having taken probably 5 years to develop by the time it is released. I don’t think they have an excuse.
I think PD are too overambitious. Like Dr Frankenstein, when they started out developing GT5 it looked like a good idea, but then it became too much and turned into a monster they couldn’t control. I think the fact they wanted 1000+ cars, with us much detail as they could get has sapped there resources, and at the expense of other features.
If this is not the best thing i have ever experienced then i quit life…:)
Don’t u guys get it? The 2 statements r linked, it will never b 100% in kaz’s eyes until he gets all that he wants, therefore the game will b released at like 95% completion. Also if there gunna axe something it will b something that’s only rumour not already confirmed so 3d & headtracking will both stay. U guys always get ur knickers in a twist!
This game is between 0 and 100 percent complete. The game will feature cars that can be driven round ‘tracks’. The release date for this game is ~21st century
Ah haha, love it! 90% complete…based on what end-point?! They don’t have one, so how can they say the game is 90% complete still? They said before that they could basically release the game at any time, so why don’t they stop talking out of their ass, and just fess up about the current state of the game in terms of content, what is definitely in, what is definitely out, and what could make it time permits, assuming a 2010 launch.
i think that is not true or he thought the other person who was talking with him isnt important and he made a undetailed statement…i hope you can understand what i want to say (my english is bad)
I think they can realase the game ,but they have to wait for 3d …
I guess we will see GT5 in December here in Europe. That’s still a crazy long time.
I don’t give a shit about the 90% – even if true, it has no meaning as I expect the game to be out for the Xmas holliday season 2010.
So what will not be included? I believe a lot of things will be missing:
– Track Editor (no hopes for that)
– Rain (not very likely)
– Rollovers (dont see that one coming)
– Detailed damage with simulation character (at least not, what simulation fans expect)
– Head-Tracking (I’d give it a 50% chance maximum)
– Skidmarks (LOL – it’s not the end of the world)
– Leading Edge AI (we will get some good improvments, but nothing too exciting)
…
But there are a lot of things that will come and that will be good. I personally already liked Prologue and I still play it. With the better physics and the more tracks GT5 will rock.
Be happy and patient.
How about the famous “The first ninety percent of the task takes ten percent of the time, and the last ten percent takes the other ninety percent”??
2016, there we go!
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Product Testing
Car Evaluation and driving
???
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They probably don’t realize that DLC is there for a reason. If they can’t put something like a track editor or a certain car into the retail product, they can always add it later via DLC.
Time for an Christmas release I see?
April not march, sry…
I simply don’t listen to Kaz anymore.
He should not be making interviews. He is not reliable. This statement is just a prove of his lack of seriousness. Get a PR manager PD!!!!
Waiting for E3.
If jan. = 90% -> release March
march = 90% -> release 30.july
Darn, even God made a whole world faster than that
@ Mr Latte
If the weather system is missing after all the time, i will be very angry! What have they done in all the years? Implementing 3d and droping the weather system would SUCK!
Sry for my bad english iam german…..
90% complete….
Still.
Well, that’s what you get when you keep on adding new gadgets.
Im thinking the “weather system” is maybe the thing that will be missing.
Well, so December 2010 is starting to look more and more like a real release date to me now.
But, hey – didn’t KY say a while ago that release is being held off by Sony?
So how could they sit on if it’s not finished yet?
It make me wonder , what are they really working on?
I mean these can’t be any ‘standard’ features like any other racing game has, right?
These parts PD should already have done & polished, unless they want the game to flop.
I doubt it’s damage, 3d or track editor. Any guesses?
Re the track editor, I expect all that will be is an airfield and the ability to place some cones where you want to make the layout. Thrilling, I’m sure. Still, if they’re wasting time on nonsense like that and 3D it’ll be understandable if they’re still no closer than they were in January.
That is not sound logic DrTrouserPlank. For instance, imagine in January the game was 90 `blocks’ big, and so they needed to do 10 more. Now imagine that they decide to leave stuff out of the game, leaving them with just 81 blocks but only needing, say, 90 (not the same as the original 90) to complete it. So as of January they would’ve needed to do 10 more blocks, but as of now, due to the changing game size, they need to do 9 more blocks. Of course conceivably they could’ve made the game even bigger and so they need to do many, many, many more blocks!
Yup, taking these figures for what they are worth we are no closer to a release than we were in January when it was 90% complete.
The big difference between now and January is that I am 94% fed-up of waiting as opposed to 89% fed-up a few months ago.
If E3 isn’t all about GT5 (including a concrete release date for each region) then you can forget about playing it this year; something that I’ve pretty much written off already.
i would gladly pay $20 for a track editor to happen and share online, so make it happen *has money at hand*
If Turn 10 had over 300 members working on Forza 3 then it certainly didn’t show. I also doubt such numbers actually worked on the forza franchise. As for GT5 and im not worried its only 90% complete. The 10% could be just testing/fine tuning. Im not bothered if the track editor or headtracking is missing either because im more interested in the online aspect of GT5. These features could always be released at a later date via DLC.
I’d say the stuff that will be left out that he’d rather have in the game would be things like full damage modelling and interiors (“premium” stuff) for all cars, rather than only a select few.
90% = finsihed, 10% = fine tuning.
srry for my english
If that figure is true.. That means there could be more than 7.5 months of development left. If after all this time there is still 10% to do.
JOY….. not
well..when sony has said: GT5 is going to be released as we say!, not PD!
KY sees here the change to improve the game because he seeing always improvement.
@ shwtt
That list is fake.
It’s been confirmed fake. Besides Turn 10 is doing the PGR series.
The 3D deal should take a hike entirely. At least E3 will give us a great progress report on this game. If not that, then there’s always the Tokyo Game Show and a few other shows in-between E3 and TGS.
well is it insulting that forza 4 is rumored will bes shown in this E3 and might be launch this year. while gt5 forever might turn into a ps4 launch game which of course will be delayed again for ps4.
hey jordan,,dont worry man,,,,,i think we all drive gt5 at cristmas,,,,,,i hope!!!!!!
You should have mentioned that they talked about GT Academy might come to the US.
Yes it’s a “might” but it’s still huge. I gotta brush up on my skills >_>
Hopefully some more information about the game will be released at this years E3, hope head tracking hasn’t been axed.
I didn’t think that few people worked on GT5…
Turn 10 literally had over 300 members both work on Forza 2 and 3.
No wonder PD is having a hard time releasing a product. Comparatively speaking, Forza 3 has less than half the content (cars) as GT5 is expected to have, not to mention twice the size of the team, and less going into their game engine technically.
Sony, can’t you lend PD a hand?