Gran Turismo Sport was first revealed almost four and a half months ago. Since then, Polyphony have remained tight-lipped on the PS4’s first Gran Turismo title, though morsels have slipped off the table to keep the fanbase hungry for new information. Shortly after the unveiling, Sony Europe CEO Jim Ryan announced his confidence in the game hitting its 2016 release target.
The exact timing of the public beta meant to preface the retail release has been the subject of fierce debate lately in our community, with Kazunori Yamauchi stating “early 2016” during the initial reveal, while the PlayStation blog simply said “Spring”. Now solidly into the third month of the year, with the equinox fast-approaching, gamers are anxious for more news. If one journalist is to be believed, we might be waiting a bit longer still.
Cyril Drevet is a French journalist that has met with Kazunori on numerous occasions, most recently at PD’s offices in Japan earlier in 2016. He even got to try the boss’ personal rig! In a podcast for Gameblog (which you can listen to in its entirety here, thanks queleuleu!), Cyril was asked about the game. After much humming and hawing on the subject of the release date, Drevet responds with “it’s complicated.”
Cyril mentions that “something” that is/was supposed to happen during March may no longer happen. From what he has seen, there is “a lot of work to be done,” adding that he is “not persuaded it will be out [by the end of the year].” When asked if the title will be more akin to a sort of ‘GT6 Plus’, Drevet has this to say:
“No, I’m quite sure it’s going to be a true GT7 – (correcting self) It’s not called that. But I’m quite sure that it’s really going to be dedicated to eSports because of the FIA partnership.”
Continuing on from the FIA mention, Drevet does mention a potential silver lining: with GT Sport thoroughly focused on the emerging eSports movement, its later release compared to erstwhile competitor Forza Motorsport 6 does highlight the different approaches of the two franchises.
Far from a random journalist, Drevet has a significant rapport with the Polyphony team. If he has these concerns after visiting the PD offices in January, what could that mean for the public beta of the game? The window for the originally announced Early/Spring 2016 is quickly closing, and it’s worth pointing out the PlayStation 4 is now further into its lifecycle than the PS3 was when GT5: Prologue launched.
We look forward to Polyphony releasing new information on the game, ideally to put these fears of a 2017 launch to rest.
Head on over to our GT Sport section to discuss this latest news, and let us know your thoughts in the comments below.
A big thank you to Sam for the translation help!
C’mon we need a new GT now, I’m already bored of GT6.
We’ll see tomorrow if they talk about GT Sport during the VR conference and what they say about it if they talk about it.
Any info from PD is welcome at this point, to clear the confusion.
I hope it is not delayed because of the unusable VR technique. That would be very depressing (something like delayed GT5 for 3D)
Well, this is very interesting. As is the usual crowd reaction.
First, it was “We don’t want a GT7 Prologue, just give us the darn game.”
Then it was “They’d better put a bunch of everything from GT7 in GT Sport and release it really SOON. But take the time to make sure they don’t mess anything up.” Err…
Now it’s “Kaz hates us and doesn’t respect us.”
I’m not sure what this place wants. ;P
I am pretty sure that no one wants GT6.2 with a handful of Premium cars and tracks but HD-er. I’m spoiled by RaceRoom so I’m hoping for some physics improvements like most of you, more than what we got moving from GT5 to 6.
Not sure what that thing that didn’t happen was, but I’m thinking FIA international negotional hangups. But at the same time, I’m also of the opinion that PD needs to bear down on that physics engine if they’re going to come up with a tangibly real experience on par with RaceRoom, AC or Live For Speed, but with assists that enable the kids to tear around and enjoy themselves. And deliver a solid damage implementation, and good modification, and a Livery Editor and so on. This will likely mean work that they should do anyhow, so they need to put their collective shoulder to the boulder and move it further up the hill.
I half expected some kind of delay, because this is about as ambitious as GT Academy, if not more so in certain ways. It’s complicated all right. I’ll be patient.
After the infamous “blank canvas” talk about how much easier, faster, and better the PS4 development would be, what would you expect?
If you (PD) tell people something is going to change, and blame your hardware for a decade, people expect results when your new, better hardware rolls in.
Okay, so you put the blame squarely on Kaz and the team for developmental delays. Okay, that’s what the usual attitude is around here, that’s expected too. For a site devoted to “fans” of Gran Turismo. I’m thinking there wasn’t this level or type of criticism though when PCARS was delayed, within a day of Assetto Corsa’s release, no less. ;-)
To be sure, I’m thinking that Kaz is getting ambitious again, wanting to give us that GT Planet laundry list of features we collectively demand, from better, closer A.I. as offered by the better racing sims, racing structured like a racing sim, to at least somewhat realistic damage on par with Forza 3, a modification system including race mod on par with Forza, a Livery Editor rather like Forza’s, weather somewhere between Forza and PCARS but more sensible… basically take two cups of Forza, a cup each of RaceRoom, PCARS and Asetto Corsa, mix well and bake till done. That “till done” part is the stickler.
But if you listen to those who have been inside PD and those from outside PD who get in like the above journo, there’s something else afoot, some agreement that hasn’t been reached, some real world factor that has lapsed… something. So I’m not placing all the blame on PD. I know that’s not the cool thing to do at GTP but, like I really care.
And every video game I’ve played so far, EVERY, from racer to adventure game, console to PC, could have benefited from some additional development time. My beloved Fallout 4 is quirky, buggy, and seems to have some divots scattered all over. And has been updated about as much as PCARS. Do I hate it? Do the fans hate it? Some do, but overall, no, we love it despite the possible SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS of development.
I want a seriously matured, truly next gen Gran Turismo. I say work on it till it’s done. I have a feeling people will end up being glad they did it that way.
You know, when a journalist says, quote; “A lot of work to be done”, it sounds more than reasonable to me that the game isn’t anywhere near even beta form. That it’s only taking the fruition of its early stages still.
It does not sound like they are waiting for, quote TenaciousD ; “Some agreement that hasn’t been reached”…
“This place” doesn’t hold a singular position on GT because “this place” is a collection of individuals with their own individual opinions. It would be more shocking if people were not a little up in arms over being into this console for going on 2 and a half years without a version of the game they like and want to play. GT has the most resources by far of anyone in this genre on this platform and the full and direct support of the console maker themselves so we naturally ask ourselves why other studios are able to churn out games and we’re still waiting for PD. Heck, AC coming to console wasn’t even on the radar until well after the release of GT6 (a picture of the dev kit still boxed was posted online) and it may well arrive on console before GTS…admittedly a much smaller game but with a core group of 10 people. 10!!
I’d like to know all these people who are “churning out” all these AAA titles, Johnny.
Kunos “churning out” a PORT?? Yeah, right. ;D
So let’s look at some other developers and what they’re churning out.
Witcher 3: Dark Hunt
Sequel to Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings, released May 17, 2011
Released May 19, 2015
Developer CD Projekt RED, employees 250
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Sequel to Deus Ex: Human revolution, released Aug 23, 2011
Scheduled release: Aug 23, 2016
Developer Eidos Montreal, employees 500
Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End
Sequel to Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception, released Nov 1, 2011
Scheduled release: Apr 26, 2016
Developer Naughty Dog, employees ~300
And for the most part, these blockbusters see delays and ballooning budgets, and lots of patches on PC at least. Often on consoles too. What is PCARS up to now?
AC is a lovely game for its fans, but let me quote from Wikipedia on how the reception hasn’t been so rosy:
Although the game has been out of early access since 2014, it is still plagued by severe issues which were overlooked during the initial build-up for the game, such as lacking features, physics that can’t cope well with the aerodynamics, tires and suspension of stiff aero dependent race cars,[16][17] highly problematic AI,[11][20] unreliable netcode,[11][12][13] and modding not working as intended,[21] despite Kunos having more than a decade of experience in this field.[22] Due to these issues, interest from the more serious sim community has also declined and has relegated the title to a hotlapping game.[11][13][14]
Kunos has stated that due to engine limitations and demographic, the game will never support features such as rain / wet weather conditions, night racing,[23] nor AI tuned for multiclass racing.[24][25]
According to simulation engineer James Dover the game does deliver in terms of graphics, but he reckons its physics engine “lacks seriousness”.[19]
Petros Mak, founder of a well known simulation modding company, states that the physics of Assetto Corsa are not of simulation value, saying that it’s a mix between more casual racing game physics and simulation (also referred to as “simcade”), allowing the game to cater to a wider audience.[26]
ExpertReviews sums it up as “a lot of cleaning up is required if it’s going to be able to keep bringing in – and keeping – new players.”[21]
Now while I was unaware of these matters, it doesn’t surprise me, seeing that the team is so small and ambitious beyond its resources to deliver well. Unfortunately, I found the game boring. But what does this say about your BFF Project CARS, with its questionable physics, A.I. and nearly silent tire sounds? What this says to me is if you cut enough corners and fudge enough details, you can get a game out sooner and count on fans to support you in the face of glaring issues. Sounds rather like the criticisms leveled at Gran Turismo…
And do bring up the Forza series, which rich producer Microsoft – I must refrain from the cliche $ – manages to truly churn out on a bi-yearly basis… by throwing massive amounts of cash at each project to hire developers literally from around the world, and staggering the Horizon series by creating an entirely separate team to produce it. And wit its own share of sometimes appalling issues.
I suppose you think the entire gaming world can easily run on a Forza-like schedule, but it seems that no one is doing it… wonder why. So as usual, I’m not impressed with your selective logic and rhetoric.
You’re forgetting something here TD. PD only work on one game at a time. One. Take Naughty Dog from your list there for example. Now what other triple A game did they release in 2013?
That’s right, The Last Of Us. I can see that you’re trying to make a point of it takes 5 years to make a triple A title. That’s all well and good if you have a development team that works on multiple projects.
But PD don’t, do they?
Last Of Us was also made by a separate team. So how long has (the delayed) Uncharted 4 been in development for? Are you guys forgetting the articles written since the advent of PS3 about budgets ballooning, development time inflating, delays and patches becoming a way of life in gaming?
Look, I want to see GT Sport as soon as possible too. But a polished GTS. A richly endowed GTS. If you guys want to say that PD are lazy and wasting time sipping Kazunori’s wine selection and vacationing around the world, go ahead and make that case. But don’t expect many outside of the usual sniping crowd here to take it seriously.
2017?? Normal version GT7 coming 2025? I buy pc or xbox, i cant wait, wait and wait this…
GT7 delayed until 2042. Current fans have reached mandatory state retirement age as the saga progressed. PD reluctantly admits through a leak that they were working on Premium engine detailing for an advanced damage model. This will include even the oily fingerprints rendering in on closer inspection. Only for the car manufacturers to get cold feet pre finalising the game, and a massive back track in starting the game from scratch again ensued.
This leads to GT7 actually being released as an interactive holographic game on a Sony entertainment system, after the PlayStation line of machines became obselete.
Kaz, by now a very old and frail man, is questioned by a journalist on when GT7 will officially launch. Close to 90 years old, he smiles and simply replies…..
” Soon. ”
Hehehe. Think that just about sums up the current state of the GT franchise.
Poliphony no cares about fans, what more i can say..
No, they do not, you are correct.. Not since GT4.
This news is completely and totally predictable.
I am sure that whatever game comes out will be full of bugs and glitches and “W T H ?!” things that we can’t even begin to imagine.
With how slow PD and Kaz work, and their refusal to modernize, and how deaf they are to their last few dwindling actual customers, I am sure GT7 won’t be out for several years. And when it does come out, it won’t be worth the wait!
There will be a massive ad campaign. There will be a hype train that could run over mount Everest. There will be breathtaking and awe-inspiring PRE-rendered screenshots that you could die for. There will be backwards thinking decision that you just cannot believe are possible, but there will also be excuses made by people here, and those same people will troll the heck out of anyone who disagrees with their defense of PD.
There will also be terrible sales figures, but we will never see them, like with GT6. All smoke and mirrors. Hopefully someday Sony will wise up and take GT away from Kaz and let someone who wants to make a great racing/driving sim/ game again take over. With the people running the show now, and the way things are now, we will never ever have another great GT, it just won’t happen.
And it is all because of exactly what you said, PD (and KAZ) do not care anymore, they just don’t! It is so obvious.
Good to see my “Gran Waitismo” stickers are still very much relevant! hahahahaha
//Facepalm//. Same old PD delays by the looks of it then? It’s Spring in 8 days here also. I wouldn’t count on getting any news from PD directly about the beta spring eta to be honest also. They haven’t told GT6 players where the rest of their game still is, ( The GT Vision cars ), so this will be no different.
I remember all the talk of how the PS4 was easier to code and model for ages ago, so I don’t think that would be a problem for delays etc. In my opinion PD just work too slow, don’t work hard enough and can’t keep any public deadline they set. This is unacceptable to your fanbase, and wouldn’t be a big issue if it happened occasionally. But it happens EVERY time with EVERY thing they do.
How fans of the series, myself included, tolerate this is beyond explaination.
I can forsee GT Sport being a 3/4 year development project, with Sony stepping in to get the thing out when they lose patience with Kaz, ( GT5 history lesson ).
Dissatisfactory, disappointing and disgustingly par for the course with PD.
Assuming the source in question is correct that is.
Lol, spectacle of PD, I’m hanging by a thread here PD, give me hope.
The way I’m reading these comments the individuals complaining believe that they are owed something by PD. If you don’t like the GT franchise or how PD operates, it’d be a lot easier and less toxic to read GT-related articles and forums if you were to just play something else and stop whinging about how you didn’t get what you want. We all know PD isn’t the most transparent game developer, they like to keep to themselves. It’s simple as that. They aren’t hyping up their game at the moment, they’re working on it to actually make it better, not just anticipated. Myself I will continue to be patient and see what they come up with, however long that takes them. If I get bored I’ll pick up pCARS or Forza, play those, but I will not be jumping on any PD-hating GT-hating bandwagon anytime soon.
/opinion
I agree
Amen.
Some people have standards, some people don’t. It’s as simple as that really.
It would be better for it come out in 2017, that way the developers will have more time to make a great game.
No.
This game is just more than a game to me (or people like me) having no news at all is frustrating, pd would you kindly live the heaven of gran turismo life again ??
If this is true all I can say is, oh well, GT becomes less relevant to me as there is so much more to do in the racing genre now. If it does not come out this year, what PD offers would have to be near earth shaking for me to consider buying it. By that time I will be playing Assetto on console, Forza 6 (waiting for 7 more than likely) playing Horizon 3 and Driveclub and maybe Project Cars 2. With all these games on offer I just may not have time for the PD offering, the competition is still PD.
I’m glad to see that there are so many people who still care more about Gran Turismo than any other racing game, I haven’t seen over 100 comments on an article for awhile now! I still have faith PD will deliver when the time is right. Think about it takes them longer to deliver a game simply because Kaz knows it’s not right and he wants it to be right!
I was to say something similar to the beginning of your comment – here take a +1 X)
Was about to*
I love PD lol… nothing changes after all these years. Hell I’ll still be loyal to them even when I’m on me cane and walker.
Haha, well, maybe my grand kids will enjoy it…. heck, I don’t even have kids yet…. ;)
As far as I’m concerned there never is a delay….things take as long as they take to get right….if Buggatti was available now it would be old news next week and we would just demand more……but when it’s released in the next edition of the series.it should be the greatest sim Exsperiance ever…its Bugatti!
Deserving of a platform with everything…
.detailed interia ….check…
..excellent physics enviroment…..check..
..visual immersive display….check…..
New and improved stearing wheel…To be negotiated …
Simulated motion seat setup…. In the works….
Then they will be ready for release and it will be special ….so until then just wait and play GT6 on PS3 …..it still has everything a race driver needs and much more than othere games….community and clubs is where it’s at…and 150000 people still play sesonals ..last count…
2 ways this will pan out on here….
1 ..people will play it for the content….and say it’s shit no better than GT6 and the competition was lame..so there for will never invest in the technology …..
2 those who buy the headset and other accessorys…will be blown away and think it’s the best thing ever…..and realise just exscactly how much hard work, detail and computer “engineering” PD continually puts into this project…..the fundamental understanding of how cars work in the real world PD have quantified it…now future technologies are using this system to understand and create atonomas driving….
MORE THAN A GAME
GT6 has everything a race driver needs?…lol. Everything except a detailed tire model, accurate sounds, accurate aero modeling, proper ABS simulation, fully adjustable FOV and cockpit positioning, proper clutch simulation and more. Other than those minor things, yeah, it has everything a race driver needs…lol.
And bugs!
And AI!
Some things never change I see, lol. I gave up on PD about a year ago now and glad I did. Too many other games and real life happenings to hang around waiting to see what PD’S next move will be, whenever it will be. Good luck to the diehards, hope you finally get something worth waiting for, lol.
Nice clickbait article.
Could GTS be delayed? LMBAO! Have you guys lost your long term memory!? I’d be lucky if my PS3 and GT disc last long enough to make the transition to GT7 (not GTS) without a break. My controllers remind me of how raggedy my real cars get before l give up on them. I’m in no mood for this… guess work.
I don’t know why anyone is saying that GT7 was renamed to GT Sport. It’s not like GT Concept took the place of GT4. I mean GT has been doing side project type releases for a while.
GT Sport will arrive for the PS4 the week before the PS5 is due to ship, just as GT6 arrived just before the PS4 started shipping. They will then skip the PS5 completely and release a version for the PS6 just before the PS7 ships. I do love GT but if you want to drive on hardware released in the last decade Project Cars and Drive Club are you’re only options.
Man, I’m sure getting a kick out of the people that think it’s confirmed that GTS will be delayed. Haha, oh man…
Hahaha… new to the series huh
No, I’ve been here awhile. Just having a laugh at the people who can’t read that it’s a possibility, and not completely confirmed. It’s just a rumor as of now, so I have no clue where people got a fact out of it.
Am I the only one who still believes in PD? I know they are letting themselves down a little but everyone needs to shut up about the release date thing. They legit let us down ONCE. gt 1 2 3 4 6 were on time. It was only number 5 that had a massive delay, and, it is as if every GT fan is a girl because they’re all holding a grudge on PD for that delay, probably for many many many years to come.
GT doesn’t have the fan base I thought it did.
Iirc GT4 was delayed and had online multiplayer removed late in development.
I think mine has online multiplayer.
Because PD is only to blame for the GT5 delay, right? Lets not be special now.
Leave PD alone!!
Once you say? I had to wait 3months to get my GT2 career back on track. Yup… it counts.
What fan base did you think it had, a bunch of mindless muppets?
Every major GT title except 6 was delayed.
PD = possibly delayed
*probably
Pending Delayment
Well well well, I’m sticking to Driveclub and Rfactor. I guess Gran Turismo Sport will be released in 2023 on the PS5
Really? Delayed? NO WAY!!!! Not Polyphony Digital!!! They always deliver everything they promise on time!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHHHAHAH!!!!!!!!etc.. etc..
PD=LULz
Maybe PD should call the game “Gran Turismo Future”.
In that way whenever people ask for a release date PD could simply say “it will be released in the future”, and people could never complain about the game being delayed.
GTF? I like it!
I have been thinking and saying to my mates for almost a year that the new GT7 (later named GTS) will probably hit us in 2017. Was a year ago so can’t remember exactly but I think I got that impression from an interview with Kaz sometime before or around the Le Mans 24 last year. Personally I still believe that to be the most likely scenario, can’t prove anything but its what I consider a somewhat educated guess considering how quiet it’s been and how late the last big GT title was. I don’t really care tho as I’m loving the PS3 still, although hardly on GT6, and a 2017 release would be a far more suitable & appropriate time for me to get a PS4.
Not to mention that I will need a new wheel too courtesy of Logitech & Sony bickering with each other.
Aw here we go again!!!! Again with g25/27 owners crying. Lol! Stonny seriously man…get another wheel ffs. Just get a wheel. Its not a car. Its a f***ing peripheral. And a modestly priced one at that, especially compared to what the rest of the sim racers are using these days. Get a t300 and be happy. If you bought a t500 when it was released, youd have a bettee wheel, you’d hace owned it for 5 years to this day, and youd be driving with it on ps4…Just stop bitching about Logitech… please. Lol.
A decent wheel costs as much money as I’ve spent on all my sim racing games combined for the last 5 years. Not exactly modestly priced when you look at it like that. It can also be 1-2 weeks net pay for someone working full time for minimum wage. So when someone makes your perfectly functioning peripheral obsolete for no other reason than just because, it makes people upset. Reasonable people have no trouble sympathizing with this.
Seriously though how come this is a news worthy? It only fuels more negativity toward PD and kaz lol. I don’t even know or heard that guy before. Respectable journalist doesn’t mean he’s reliable. I won’t believe it, until I heard it directly from PD or Sony.
There’s so many racing game to play out there. You guys need to chill out, they will release information when everything is ready. I just hope PD improve their communications toward their fanbase.
Why do I have this feeling that most people that moan about delays only play games for a few weeks before moving on to something else anyway. May I recommend Angry Birds, Mobile Strike, Clash of Clans or whatever hyped up mobile app du jour is currently taking everyone by storm?
Assuming that most people moan about delay only play a games for a few weeks makes you quite ignorant. Dont.
PD is off the grid now, why even bother with this, their are other good driving games to satisfy your thirst. (PCars)
PD are off the map now, with all the great offerings on PS4, Xbone and PC i can honestly say i don’t care what happens to the latest GT.
”Spring 2016”. For the Northern or Southern Hemisphere?
Ironically – due to the amount of boredom rather than playing GT6 – i’m back playing Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec <XD
Well, as long as they’re building an incredible amount of software, it only makes sense to wait patiently and not come up with conspiracy theories on PD’s/Sony’s unwillingness to speak about the next release. We know there’s 150+ working on the game every single day in some way, shape or form, and there have been several jobs being offered recently, so an expansion of team speaks for itself. I’m absolutely sure this game will constitute things NONE of us would have imagined..
Glad to see you have some faith.
Ya man, I guess I haven’t been as severely traumatized by PD’s shortcomings over PS3’s lifespan as some. Sure, I wish they would have been able to fix some of the nagging issues too, but since I grew up with games of FAR less quality, I guess I’m just shocked at just how unthankful people are for how much we get for 60 measly dollars. It’s really funny how the more we have, the more cocky and unappreciative some will get. PD has done nothing wrong as far as I can tell. I know GT Sport and/or GT7 are going to be off the charts professionally built.
I really Hope GT Sport bombs out, we should all boycott it, Im having to much fun with PCARS anyway to care about GT anyway.
It’s obvious you aren’t since you are busy posting rants on here about the game you don’t care about. I think that you are confused as to what no caring about something actually means, but you know internet and people like to say “it’s my opinion….blah blah” when in reality you do not have to give one so it makes it moot to say all that and then say I don’t care about it. Why enter, read and post that at all? Just avoid it, do you go into stores and say you’ll boycott a brand or do you like a reasonable person just refuse to purchase the brand and carry on with your life? I think the internet lets folks really do things they wouldn’t otherwise do publicly, you’d probably get shamed or laughed at if you said all this in public(away from your keyboard where other people can see you in real time).
Pcars is trash dude get over yourself if gt7 came out tomorrow u would dump pcars real quick people are not patient anymore yes gt is taking a long development cycle but i rather have quality look at forza they come out every year and getting worse
I dumped GT for Forza starting with FM4, you are talking out your butt about it getting worse.
@ nismogt7 – Gran Turismo can only dream about being as good as P Cars – On PC in 3 screen surround it kills GT.
^ I hope you know GT can also be played with 3 screens and surround sound and all the other nick knacks you like.
What do you think the odds are of triple screen support when Sony is pushing VR technology like there is no tomorrow? Not very likely in my opinion.
-SavageEvil, I just don’t see how GT being as good as it was, GT6 feels like an un-finished game, features from prologue and GT5 were taken out, I have every GT game but I feel Kaz spends to much focus on his own agenda than listening to the fans, Pcars is not perfect, the starting glitches are annoying as hell but less common now, then we have Assetto Corsa also coming to console, and if you have a PC then Pcars looks amazing granted. Im just not going bother pre ordering and I will believe it only once I see it on a shop shelve or dropped through my letter box.
Yes, ofcourse. Why not? History confirmed that many times before. Japanese don’t know how to code (program) efficiently. They know how to make good quality. But not good quality faster. Unless PD changes their source code generation base (which they probably won’t) then nothing will change and they will go down. Competition will eat them. Look at all the other game companies right now. Previously PD had monopoly. Not anymore.
Good quality takes time. When did something amazing take little time? Forza? No. Every new game they make is essentially ripped off the last one, so they can re-release every year. PCars? Wasn’t that delayed? Bugatti? Not made on a robotic assembly line. Hand made for days.
Point being, if you want some good quality products, it can’t be rushed around to make people happy, who will then be dissatisfied due to poor quality.
What is time? How long is enough? The point is that there are companies who can make same quality faster. Same quality. Faster. Because they know how. If you think that all people, doing the same job, do it in the same efficiency, you are wrong. And looking at competition and how small budgets they have, its clear that the same quality can be achieved faster. And oh by the way, crazy quality (like having off track buildings, barely noticable, fully rendered with every detail) is important to 2% of the users. Better make ‘standard cars’ not standard anymore.
Wow, no surprise here. If that is indeed true, PD sure knows how to keep the fanbase hungry. How hard can it be for Sony to have a larger team working on GT Sport? Why not outsource like Turn 10? We all know Kaz wouldn’t allow it because he wants to keep everything in-house and he’s the senior VP of SCEI and all, but truth be told, this model is simply unsustainable in this day and age. While Sony is seemingly more concerned about preserving the quality of the game by keeping everything within the confines of one studio, it turns out that that very quality standard has diminished in recent years, with GT5 and GT6 failing to exceed expectations. Others have realized this bureaucratic attitude is unsustainable and have since moved on, churning out games that keep getting better and better, and at a much faster rate… I’m looking at you Forza. The result is that a world-class studio who used to be on top of their game is now struggling to remain even remotely relevant, with the advent of better, newer business models and attitudes that ensure quality and quantity are uncompromised. PD still seem to be stuck in the 90s with that bureaucratic mindset with a strong focus on “quality.” Talks of “the game will be ready when it is. We don’t want to rush anything because we want it to be perfect” don’t mean anything nowadays when competitors are able to do just that on an annual product lifecycle. Those claims are now unfounded and even more disconcerting considering PD’s recent record of failing to meet expectations. Even that quality benchmark seems to have been drastically reduced. So PD does not have the quantity, but what about the quality? Even that is an uncertainty for now. So how do you compete against others who have both quantity and quality when you can only churn out a game every 5 to 10 years? At this rate, you need a miracle, that’s how. These are my thoughts towards PD at the moment. I really hope I’m proven wrong with GT Sport. I’m saying this as a PS fan and I’m really sad it reached a point where I’m always looking over the fence and seeing more and better looking toys on the other side… What’s one to do then? That’s when one says bye bye GT and welcome Forza. Just my two cents.
Someone poses a question about what may be a rumor and you people lose your collective minds. Doesn’t take much to cross that line eh? Just sit tight and enjoy the games you do have now until official news about the game lands. Even if it gets delayed, I fail to see the problem do you plan your life around game releases, if you do seek help.
Sony is hosting a VR event on March 15th, which should include some information about GT Sport, as they’ve stated they want it to be a VR title. If we don’t hear anything about GT Sport at this event, then it’s time to worry, but until then we should expect them to be tight-lipped.
http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/23/sony-playstation-vr-gdc/
Could it be this thing which was posted in the article !?
“Cyril mentions that “something” that is/was supposed to happen during March may no longer happen.”
Could it be this !?
I hope it comes out this year! I know there are other great titles to play, but they aren’t Gran Turismo…
Are you really a GT fan for life? Cause if you are…..then good for you for staying true to PD.
It’s in his name, Mason. I may not be for life but l have been for its life.
Wish PD well and l personaly hope they learn to translate english better. Lol… it’s gotta be embarassing.
Im seriously thinking about buying PS5 when in 2022 GT7 hits the shelves.
Wait am I suppose to be surprised by a GT delay?!?
Hold your horses.. Only rumors.. Me also getting old and tired of waiting, but we all knew that Pd will take they’re time.. They’re mistake was to release gt6 on ps3, it looked old and same, hope they will learn from mistakes and release only one gt game per console, Pd is a serious developer they need to support one game on ps4 this time, and already have to start thinking about ps5 and gt7 on ps5… For real, we need improvement not milking…
The point of the tradition is to release 2 per console and it should be kept that. Not like Forza’s lineup where you got 5 per console. That….is milking….
Yeah… and don’t forget all that cheese MicroSoft makes with online play. CHA CHING A LANG A LANG!!!
Thanks Trollyphony Digital..
A delay, from PD, that’s unheard of.
I’d love for you to list in their 6 releases the amount of delays they’ve had officially made. I’ll wait!!!
If this delay happens then absolutely nobody will be in the slightest bit surprised. If it releases in 2016 we will be amazed.
No way, that’s just too late. So GT7 will come out by the PS5 time and look dated no.
Really hope a hero saves PD
I’m betting for 2018 actually, maybe the PS5 is announced before the next GT
Everyone knew this was happening. It’s PD after all.
Typical GTPlanet treating this as fact, there hasn’t been an official announcement yet, so it’s still up in the air. If the beta’s coming out in the spring then they have until June to release something. Calm yourselfs
That’s why it has a question mark. Is not a statement of fact. It’s a report about something that someone said.
Reading is fundamental. Nothing here in treated as an absolute, hence the subject title ending with a question mark, and the statement on looking forward to PD releasing information on the status of the game themselves.
And just to top things off, it’s ‘yourselves’.
I think you read me wrong. I meant the comments/fanbase of this website.
Or that likely you’re comment was read exactly how it was laid out for us. Considering you specified GTP instead of it’s community, everyone was likely thinking you where talking about the staff.
I knew it! PD hasn’t been able to keep or accomplish its promises since GT5 was released. Let’s remember: now we have GT6 and GTS (possibly), which are on TWO different platforms, both still works in progress. Now, how come neither game has had any new updates? Or met deadlines. The competition seems fine – heck, there’s more news on Forza, PCars, and NFS, etc, than GT. It’s perplexing.
GT6 is a finished game. Unless there are major game bugs, I don’t see any points of useless updates to take up my 500gb system memory. GT6 was also an on time game.
That’s fine PD seems to be ok with us buying competitors titles. It’s not 2000 any more Where GT was the king of the castle, sadly other titles have caught up and surpassed it. Take till 2025 if you want.
I am genuinely not surprised.
I stopped buying games for PS4, I stopped paying for PSplus and moved I to Xbox One… Wise move.
Gran Turismo it’s all your fault!
Yeah it is. Problem?
I am getting old…
You broke my heart XD
Because i can feel what you feel <XD
Why not skip this launch and make GT8 already? /sarcasm. What a disappointment. Looking to what SMS is doing with the Forza series and looking to PD is just frustrating. I love GT but this is getting ridiculous.
Well… is there any other PS4 racing games worth getting? I already own Driveclub.
Project CARS, Assetto Corsa when it comes out.
@ToyGTone
Well.. In simulation you have Project C.A.R.S, in April Dirt Rally comes and in June Assetto Corsa will be launched.
And if the GTSport delay joke goes on.. We will have made Project C.A.R.S 2 before the release of GT Sport, cause SMS said that Pcars 2 probably will be launched in mid 2017 or end 2017…
And my reply to this news….Well, i really don’t understand why Sony stays supporting PD…that will be 3 years with PS4 on the market before GTS will be launched… That’s really a shame! Blame your self Kazunori! You still didn’t finished the GT6 game.. Where are all those Vision GT left from the list and the cars you promised before summer?? Just like the FIA championship previewd for spring 2015 on GT6 right?? Bye bye without explanations to the fans till GT Sport get launched..
um … Vision GT relies on the companies not him.
ZEROTHEKNIGHT.. Ummm if vision relies on the company’s where are the bugatti and the hyundai..
Why PD said they didn’t receive the inside pictures of the cars but if you look in the vision GT menu when you select a car the background is the full detailed interior design of the car?
And if PD needs six months for coding the cars I’m sure he already have the design received from mostly all the company’s.. He said also on release of GT6 the all the vision GT list is going to be completed in maximum 2 years.. Then before goodwood last year he said that sorry for the delay but the list will be completed and then he will look to put the interiors in..
So conclusion.. His a big liar. And the worst is that he don’t give even a single explanation to his fans
Well – it was based on what was clear to me in Vision GT menu when they mention something like ( currently in devolopment – awaiting update soon ) or something like that which led to my thinking that it relies on the companies not the PD team, but what you’ve brand to the investigation table gives a notice on a blind side which after being commented from you – can lead to some sort of acknowledgeable questioning or reasoning if the second word ( reasoning ) was used correctly.
By *used correctly* – i mean by me X)
On one side, I agree completely with the laughter.
On the other, I see PD getting into something that, while it could be great, is being a great headache.
My personal take: Not again…. Is there ever going to be a release for GT that is as expected as we wish? I guess that building a new program isn’t as easy or as quick as ANYONE wants! ;)
We shall see. I certainly hope that the FIA doesn’t destroy this before it can become great.
At some point Sony will just close Polyphony Digital as Microsoft did with Lionhead Studios. There is something not sustainable in the combination of Gran Turismo sales, PD number of employees and number of years between two GT releases.
Not gonna happen. When it does release games, Polyphony is still very profitable for Sony.
Developers shouldn’t announce titles when they aren’t ready to release the game on time, if they haven’t released that trailer nobody would that the game existed, now they just dissapointed their fans although I see a trend of people being like “MMMMM I love that they delayed pcars 5 times that must mean that the game will be polished and bug free upon release!” And we all know how “bug free” pcars was…
Sure, but compare that to what state the game would have been in if it hadn’t been delayed.
I think that they must announce – because if they didn’t – maybe we’ll go more nuts than what we are now.
OR they have to do it for a reason against other titles or for not destroying their schedule later.
Presumably they’ve found an even better way to model the cars in even greater detail, so now rubber houses have a textured finish on the inside and each individual tread block is modelled fully.
This of course means it now takes 12 months to model each car, but it’s OK, the car count is still rising because we’ll now have standards, premiums and elites all racing together.
This will mean however that only the player’s car can be an ‘elite’ model, else the PS4 will grind to a halt. Oh and you can’t use them in VR. You also can’t use the interior view in VR because the models are ridiculously detailed. Or have more than 1 car on track.
Oh and they ran out of time to fix the engine sounds, again.
But it’s OK, 2018 is the year GT makes a comeback. Again. Oh the e-sports is only available in Japan and Europe, sorry. Oh and you have to pay to gain an e-racing licence from the FIA. Oh and pay to compete. Each year.
Despite all this inevitably being true, I’m still going to buy it as soon as it comes out, just like I have for the last 18 years. I’m an idiot.
Also, GT Sport for December 2017 would be a nice 20th anniversary of the original…
Now our cars are PS5 ready!
Wait, who’d want to live in America anyway? No wonder they skip that out!
@letdown427
“Despite all this inevitably being true, I’m still going to buy it as soon as it comes out, just like I have for the last 18 years. I’m an idiot.”
I think you hit the nail on the head with this line. Despite all the complaining, whining, sarcasm and criticism, most people reading these comments that already have a PS4 will probably buy GT Sport when it is released. Sony and PD know this, and they know that we know this.
And we can say, “That’s it, I’ve had enough, I’m not going to buy it” all we want, but it won’t matter, saying it never matters. What matters is what you do, and if anyone feels the need to complain and criticize about this possible delay, then just keep the thoughts to yourselves and don’t buy it.
“Well I want PD to know how upset and angry I am about everything they do.” PD doesn’t care what you think, nor does Sony. They are companies, and they know the product will sell, so they don’t have to care, and that’s just the way it is.
Personally, I have plenty of things to do in my life already. I play PCars about twice a week, and DriveClub about twice a month, and that’s it. So when GT Sport comes out I’m absolutely going to buy it, because I love Gran Turismo.
And I’m also an idiot =)
Oooo, surprise surprise. What did ‘Kaz’ say before? Don’t worry guys, you won’t need to wait as long for the next GT game because the PS4 is far more programmer-friendly? Yeah right, tell those fairytales to toddlers in the playground. All I can say, thank God for the likes of Evolution Studios, Turn 10, SMS and Ubisoft because waiting for PD to get their #### together is like waiting for hell to freeze over.
Lol
I don’t care about delays, I don’t want a “street fighter 5” alike game (that is incomplete and still needs lots of things). I hope this delays are made to make GT sport a BIG comeback
This is going to be the best GT ever.
Happy to be wrong but until it’s out with PD’s recent track record, delays are pretty much expected. These days I just want a Triple AAA title to be “POLISHED” and not rushed out with bugs and full of incomplete features promised to be in the game.
I think we can just about tick off delays AND bugs and incompleteness seem to be the norm in the era of DLC
Spring hasn’t started yet and Summer doesn’t begin until 21st June, so there is still the possibility of the Beta during Spring.
I always thought 2016 for GTS meant Christmas 2016.
What, from 2018 when it likely was going to be rolled out…
Meanwhile, GT6 hasn’t had any new items in 6 months and PD is just as “tight-lipped” about whether there will be any new material. Why am I not surprised to see that they are dropping the ball on GT Sport and GT6?
Just hahahaha
Exactly lol.