Smallhorses
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I've always liked the S2000s in the GT series, they're a good "Giant-killer" car. Surprisingly quick, even though they've less power than the 276HP "Gentleman's agreement" cars like the Supra, Skylines, Evos, Imprezas & NSXs. Ever since I ran Trial Mountain 2hr Enduro in GT3 in an S2000 against an NSX, and won by 2.3s , I've had the S2000 bug!
*edit* I lied, just realised my 1st GT4 S2000 experience is the replay I submitted to join the Clean Racers Coalition! You can find it here! Sorry!
Here, is my second GT4 S2000 experience!
And now for the 3rd!......
Japan Championship.
Car: Honda S2000 Type V '00 (6.2 mile used, oil changed) / FR / 256HP / 1260kg / 4.92kg/HP / Stock SM tyres.
Race 1. Fuji Speedway 90's. (200 A-spec points)
Qualified 1st, 1'46.829 lap.
Start from pole position, ahead of a field of modified 4WD monsters , a Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi '02 tapping 432HP, a Nissan Skyline V-Spec II '00 sourcing 405HP, a Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT '03 showing 414HP, a Mitsubishi Evo VIII RS '03 displaying 411HP, and a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 '98 laying down 407HP, giving away about 150-170HP to the rest of the field, and without the launching traction of 4WD, I know I'm going to get smoked from the start, and fully expect to get shunted by one or more of them as I get away!
Somehow, miraculously, shunting is avoided , the Skyline behind me on the grid lunges forward, but has the sense to back off again before he makes contact. The Subaru beside me and the one behind him take off sweetly, as expected from the 2 most powerful cars on the grid , and we head down to the 1st turn, with me in 3rd place. The Legacy doesn't do turn 1 well, sliding out at the 1st apex and then wiggling all over the road trying to correct it, I see the gap and go for the move around the outside of the 2nd apex, using all of the curb on the left. I nearly make it cleanly, but the more powerful Legacy has managed to straighten up, and in blissful ignorance of the fact that I'm alongside him, attempts to pull back onto the "AI" line . Back off a little to avoid too much paint scraping and he pulls ahead, still pulling across and almost forcing me off the track, as if I'm not actually there! There's a shower of sparks from the back of the S2000 as the muffler grounds out on the rumble strip! He's passed entering the sweeping right hander, and I pull away down the hill, keeping my position under braking for the tighter left hander, and gaining a little on the leading Impreza. The guy in the Legacy clearly has no mirrors, and no depth perception , as he tags my back end before we brake for the right, left, right flick before the looping turn out onto the mainstraight again. Cleanly negotiate the turns, and gain the distance that the Impreza was able to pull away on the fast section, and follow him to complete the lap, as he uses his massive power advantage to pull away.
Lap 1 Splits:- +1.8s to Impreza, in 3rd place at T1. +0.8s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T2. +0.8s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T3. Lap of 1'50.702 sees me +2.001s behind Impreza, holding 2nd place at the end of the lap.
Learning from the Legacy's inability to see me, I'm watching for him in my mirrors this time, since a nudge down the mainstraight can be catastrophic, (as I found out the 1st time I attempted this race, and the Legacy caught me in such a way that I wound up spinning across the pit exit, and ended up parked backwards in the gravel trap outside turn 1! 🤬 ) and I manage to get out of his way as he comes marauding up behind me. We're only just short of the braking area for turn 1, so I see no harm in letting him go, since I know I'll get him again under braking. It's a beautiful clean move, and too quick for him to employ any of his previous attempts to run me off the road. I've also caught the Impreza enormously in the entrance to this turn. He pulls away for a while towards T1, but I catch up a lot through the turns before T2. Out onto the fast section at the back he storms away again, only to be caught again in the turns before T3 and the chase begins again! I'm close enough to catch a bit of his draft before his raw power pulls him away. 👍
Lap 2 Splits:- +1.3s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T1. +0.27s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T2. +0.38s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T3. Lap of 1'45.845 gives a +1.075s gap to the Impreza at the end of the lap.
I'm far enough ahead of the blind Legacy now not to have to worry about him catching me, but I keep one eye on the mirror just in case! Approaching turn 1, the Impreza brakes way too early , and in a repeat of the move I put on the Legacy at the beginning of the previous lap, he's cleanly passed and reliquishes top spot, although in a very similar manner to the Legacy he chose's to ignore the fact that I'm nosing ahead of him, & on the racing line and pulls over into the side of the S2000, forcing me further onto the kerbs and back down to 2nd place! He pulls away like nothing has happened, although I'm a lot closer to him at T1 this time round. Out of the bend after T1, he gets wiggly and I slip alongside while he tries in vain to slam the door on me, there's the briefest of contacts, but he's already braking for the sweeper, which I dive into with barely a touch of the brakes and feather the throttle to guide me around safely. The Impreza begins to make a lunge down the hill, but thinks better of it in time to get on the brakes for the sharp lefthander. I pass through a checkpoint in the lead for the first time. He gains in the fast section, and loses it, and a little more before T3. Keep a close eye on the mirror down the straight as he gains hand-over-fist on me, and make sure he's going to pass me rather than ramming me. He's practically alongside, on my right, as we cross the line.
Lap 3 Splits:- +0.57s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T1. -1.3s to Impreza, in 1st place at T2. -1.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T3. Lap of 1'45.801 gives a -0.116s gap to 2nd placed Impreza at the end of the lap.
I'm marginally 1st as the lap begins, but it's immediately down to 2nd as the Impreza surges past. 👎 Despite his willingness to shunt me, I'm trying my best to avoid contact with him, and try to keep out of his way, knowing I have the braking advantage at the end of the straight. His brake lights come on as soon as he sees the 200m marker, but I leave it later, almost at the 150m mark before my brake pedal is touched. It's a flawless move , and this time the Impreza is no where near able to cut back into me. Steam off towards T1, but he's gaining quickly on the straighter part. Clean lines, up to T2 allow me some breathing space before the Impreza gets his chance to close up on the untwisty section. I'm clean, but disappointingly slow through the chicane on this lap , and the Impreza gains more than his fair share. Once again I'm paying close attention to the mirrors for the approaching Impreza down the straight, and once again he catches me.
Lap 4 Splits:- -1.2s to Impreza, in 1st place at T1. -2.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T2. -2.0s to Impreza, in 1st place at T3. Lap of 1'46.199 gives a lead of -0.360s at the end of the lap.
I edge right slightly as I see him approach on my left this time, once again gentlemanly avoiding blocking or contact, and again 1st place is relinquished just 4s into lap 5. The same old story at turn 1 again, he's braking at the 200m mark and I pass on his right, braking just before 150m marker, and pull away cleanly towards T1. He's too far back to make an impression, and I pull away in the twisty section before T2 again. Get the chicane right this time, and the gap remains constant at T3, the Impreza losing what time he gained in the fast section. Now it's nail biting time to the finish line!
Lap 5 Splits:- -1.0s to Impreza, in 1st place at T1. -2.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T2. -2.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T3. A fastest lap of 1'45.533 seals the win, -0.887s ahead of the rapidly advancing Impreza, which then rams the back of the S2000, which is now under AI control and not smart enough to get out of its way!
An excellent race, excluding Amoebic Intelligence induced contact it's clean by OLR standards, 2 wheels on track at all times. If only PD has made the AI able to react properly to cars being next to them, rather than their ridiculous need to get back in their "slot" however and as quickly as they can after a bend . It should be possible to keep this 100% clean, but it'll require a lot of mirror watching and time-costly AI dodging manouevers to avoid them driving into the back of you!
4 more races to come.....
And for those of you who'd rather watch than read, here's the replay. NTSC MAX Drive format.... I'll be attaching the race replays for each race.
Hmmm. The server issues appear to be stopping uploads at the moment. I'll try again later!
*edit* Now got the replay uploaded. Enjoy! Used Photomode for the 1st time, to take a picture of the Impreza and S2000 side by side at the finish line on the 2nd lap, but now I can't transfer it off the memory card into the MAX drive. Photomode is confirmed as useless! I know, it's the MAX Drive's fault really, but still annoying!
Race 2 replay is also attached. The race report for Race 2 is here!
Race 3 replay now attached. The race report for Race 3 is here!
Race 4 replay now attached. The race report for Race 4 is here!
Race 5 replay now attached. The race report for Race 5 is here!
*edit* I lied, just realised my 1st GT4 S2000 experience is the replay I submitted to join the Clean Racers Coalition! You can find it here! Sorry!
Here, is my second GT4 S2000 experience!
And now for the 3rd!......
Japan Championship.
Car: Honda S2000 Type V '00 (6.2 mile used, oil changed) / FR / 256HP / 1260kg / 4.92kg/HP / Stock SM tyres.
Race 1. Fuji Speedway 90's. (200 A-spec points)
Qualified 1st, 1'46.829 lap.
Start from pole position, ahead of a field of modified 4WD monsters , a Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi '02 tapping 432HP, a Nissan Skyline V-Spec II '00 sourcing 405HP, a Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT '03 showing 414HP, a Mitsubishi Evo VIII RS '03 displaying 411HP, and a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 '98 laying down 407HP, giving away about 150-170HP to the rest of the field, and without the launching traction of 4WD, I know I'm going to get smoked from the start, and fully expect to get shunted by one or more of them as I get away!
Somehow, miraculously, shunting is avoided , the Skyline behind me on the grid lunges forward, but has the sense to back off again before he makes contact. The Subaru beside me and the one behind him take off sweetly, as expected from the 2 most powerful cars on the grid , and we head down to the 1st turn, with me in 3rd place. The Legacy doesn't do turn 1 well, sliding out at the 1st apex and then wiggling all over the road trying to correct it, I see the gap and go for the move around the outside of the 2nd apex, using all of the curb on the left. I nearly make it cleanly, but the more powerful Legacy has managed to straighten up, and in blissful ignorance of the fact that I'm alongside him, attempts to pull back onto the "AI" line . Back off a little to avoid too much paint scraping and he pulls ahead, still pulling across and almost forcing me off the track, as if I'm not actually there! There's a shower of sparks from the back of the S2000 as the muffler grounds out on the rumble strip! He's passed entering the sweeping right hander, and I pull away down the hill, keeping my position under braking for the tighter left hander, and gaining a little on the leading Impreza. The guy in the Legacy clearly has no mirrors, and no depth perception , as he tags my back end before we brake for the right, left, right flick before the looping turn out onto the mainstraight again. Cleanly negotiate the turns, and gain the distance that the Impreza was able to pull away on the fast section, and follow him to complete the lap, as he uses his massive power advantage to pull away.
Lap 1 Splits:- +1.8s to Impreza, in 3rd place at T1. +0.8s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T2. +0.8s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T3. Lap of 1'50.702 sees me +2.001s behind Impreza, holding 2nd place at the end of the lap.
Learning from the Legacy's inability to see me, I'm watching for him in my mirrors this time, since a nudge down the mainstraight can be catastrophic, (as I found out the 1st time I attempted this race, and the Legacy caught me in such a way that I wound up spinning across the pit exit, and ended up parked backwards in the gravel trap outside turn 1! 🤬 ) and I manage to get out of his way as he comes marauding up behind me. We're only just short of the braking area for turn 1, so I see no harm in letting him go, since I know I'll get him again under braking. It's a beautiful clean move, and too quick for him to employ any of his previous attempts to run me off the road. I've also caught the Impreza enormously in the entrance to this turn. He pulls away for a while towards T1, but I catch up a lot through the turns before T2. Out onto the fast section at the back he storms away again, only to be caught again in the turns before T3 and the chase begins again! I'm close enough to catch a bit of his draft before his raw power pulls him away. 👍
Lap 2 Splits:- +1.3s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T1. +0.27s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T2. +0.38s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T3. Lap of 1'45.845 gives a +1.075s gap to the Impreza at the end of the lap.
I'm far enough ahead of the blind Legacy now not to have to worry about him catching me, but I keep one eye on the mirror just in case! Approaching turn 1, the Impreza brakes way too early , and in a repeat of the move I put on the Legacy at the beginning of the previous lap, he's cleanly passed and reliquishes top spot, although in a very similar manner to the Legacy he chose's to ignore the fact that I'm nosing ahead of him, & on the racing line and pulls over into the side of the S2000, forcing me further onto the kerbs and back down to 2nd place! He pulls away like nothing has happened, although I'm a lot closer to him at T1 this time round. Out of the bend after T1, he gets wiggly and I slip alongside while he tries in vain to slam the door on me, there's the briefest of contacts, but he's already braking for the sweeper, which I dive into with barely a touch of the brakes and feather the throttle to guide me around safely. The Impreza begins to make a lunge down the hill, but thinks better of it in time to get on the brakes for the sharp lefthander. I pass through a checkpoint in the lead for the first time. He gains in the fast section, and loses it, and a little more before T3. Keep a close eye on the mirror down the straight as he gains hand-over-fist on me, and make sure he's going to pass me rather than ramming me. He's practically alongside, on my right, as we cross the line.
Lap 3 Splits:- +0.57s to Impreza, in 2nd place at T1. -1.3s to Impreza, in 1st place at T2. -1.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T3. Lap of 1'45.801 gives a -0.116s gap to 2nd placed Impreza at the end of the lap.
I'm marginally 1st as the lap begins, but it's immediately down to 2nd as the Impreza surges past. 👎 Despite his willingness to shunt me, I'm trying my best to avoid contact with him, and try to keep out of his way, knowing I have the braking advantage at the end of the straight. His brake lights come on as soon as he sees the 200m marker, but I leave it later, almost at the 150m mark before my brake pedal is touched. It's a flawless move , and this time the Impreza is no where near able to cut back into me. Steam off towards T1, but he's gaining quickly on the straighter part. Clean lines, up to T2 allow me some breathing space before the Impreza gets his chance to close up on the untwisty section. I'm clean, but disappointingly slow through the chicane on this lap , and the Impreza gains more than his fair share. Once again I'm paying close attention to the mirrors for the approaching Impreza down the straight, and once again he catches me.
Lap 4 Splits:- -1.2s to Impreza, in 1st place at T1. -2.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T2. -2.0s to Impreza, in 1st place at T3. Lap of 1'46.199 gives a lead of -0.360s at the end of the lap.
I edge right slightly as I see him approach on my left this time, once again gentlemanly avoiding blocking or contact, and again 1st place is relinquished just 4s into lap 5. The same old story at turn 1 again, he's braking at the 200m mark and I pass on his right, braking just before 150m marker, and pull away cleanly towards T1. He's too far back to make an impression, and I pull away in the twisty section before T2 again. Get the chicane right this time, and the gap remains constant at T3, the Impreza losing what time he gained in the fast section. Now it's nail biting time to the finish line!
Lap 5 Splits:- -1.0s to Impreza, in 1st place at T1. -2.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T2. -2.4s to Impreza, in 1st place at T3. A fastest lap of 1'45.533 seals the win, -0.887s ahead of the rapidly advancing Impreza, which then rams the back of the S2000, which is now under AI control and not smart enough to get out of its way!
An excellent race, excluding Amoebic Intelligence induced contact it's clean by OLR standards, 2 wheels on track at all times. If only PD has made the AI able to react properly to cars being next to them, rather than their ridiculous need to get back in their "slot" however and as quickly as they can after a bend . It should be possible to keep this 100% clean, but it'll require a lot of mirror watching and time-costly AI dodging manouevers to avoid them driving into the back of you!
4 more races to come.....
And for those of you who'd rather watch than read, here's the replay. NTSC MAX Drive format.... I'll be attaching the race replays for each race.
Hmmm. The server issues appear to be stopping uploads at the moment. I'll try again later!
*edit* Now got the replay uploaded. Enjoy! Used Photomode for the 1st time, to take a picture of the Impreza and S2000 side by side at the finish line on the 2nd lap, but now I can't transfer it off the memory card into the MAX drive. Photomode is confirmed as useless! I know, it's the MAX Drive's fault really, but still annoying!
Race 2 replay is also attached. The race report for Race 2 is here!
Race 3 replay now attached. The race report for Race 3 is here!
Race 4 replay now attached. The race report for Race 4 is here!
Race 5 replay now attached. The race report for Race 5 is here!