What if You Could Upgrade "My Home" in GT5?
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There are all sorts of oppurtunities for a race shop deal. All sorts of race teams with all sorts of amenities and services to make one car better than some have ever been. Another possibility I've thought of was making your own race car with a different drivetrain. This ONLY applies to making race cars based on street cars. So for example, if you want to modify Honda Integra/Acura RSX to have 300+ hp and be able to balance the car properly, you may choose to make your RSX racing variant a rear-wheel drive car to balance the weight distribution. The RSX (not my example) is already racing in the BTCC, and if you choose to build up your own RSX to your specifications, you can.
GTPlanet, if you recall from Gran Turismos 1 and 2, you are able to give your car a wild Racing Modification to make your street car a race car at the snap of a finger. One thing was missing- a new engine. Fear not, my friends. While this Race Shop idea is different, I want your opinions on building up an engine. For my idea, you can build up a racing-spec engine to your options. You can choose to make your engine just the same as the street car it's based on, or you have these options: (1) same basic engine, just with more horsepower, more displacement, or perhaps a lighter, more durable engine, (2) a lightly-modified engine with more horsepower, same or bigger displacement, (3) a heavily-modified engine with significantly more horsepower, usually bigger displacement, your choice of NA or Turbo, and even an option to program different horsepower levels for the car. Option 3 will allow you to modify certain levels of horsepower, making for variable levels of horsepower. This is usually found in race cars like the now-retired Ferrari 333SP (my favorite race car of all time, of course).
To explore the Race Shop idea, what are your engine modifying/building/etc. ideas?
GTPlanet, if you recall from Gran Turismos 1 and 2, you are able to give your car a wild Racing Modification to make your street car a race car at the snap of a finger. One thing was missing- a new engine. Fear not, my friends. While this Race Shop idea is different, I want your opinions on building up an engine. For my idea, you can build up a racing-spec engine to your options. You can choose to make your engine just the same as the street car it's based on, or you have these options: (1) same basic engine, just with more horsepower, more displacement, or perhaps a lighter, more durable engine, (2) a lightly-modified engine with more horsepower, same or bigger displacement, (3) a heavily-modified engine with significantly more horsepower, usually bigger displacement, your choice of NA or Turbo, and even an option to program different horsepower levels for the car. Option 3 will allow you to modify certain levels of horsepower, making for variable levels of horsepower. This is usually found in race cars like the now-retired Ferrari 333SP (my favorite race car of all time, of course).
To explore the Race Shop idea, what are your engine modifying/building/etc. ideas?
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The option to change the engine completely with another engine, providing it would fit in the engine bay ofcourse. You're never fitting a Speed 12 engine into a Mini or even a Ferrari 575 for that matter, it's too big. You should have the option of having an engine built to a spec based on criteria set by you, this would also be based on wats pssible in real life, so a 756cc K car engine can't be built with 2000Bhp and 15000lb/ft torque ect. Also you should have the option of building you're own engine from a huge, huge, HUGE range of parts, doing it this way would allow you more freedon tocreate what you wan't, but again it would be in line wit what's possible in real life.
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The only reason why I'm mentioning displacement is because it was a big part of identifying cars by class in the classic game "Sega GT." I've bought some cars in the game, even making my own Carrozzeria machines. Sometimes when I tried to enter cars into races, I can't because the displacement is low. And if I have a Carrozzeria car, I will have to sell it, and build a brand new car with the correct engine specifications for me to enter. When it came to the engine in Sega GT classic in Carrozzeria, you chose displacement, engine type, and aspiration. No money is affected by changing displacement. For you Zoom-Zoom! fans, you can even select rotary-powered engines. After all, rotary engines are great engines too. In fact, these are all the engine types I can remember you being able to choose: 3-Rotor*, Inline-4, Inline-6, Boxer-4*, Boxer-6, V-Type 6, V-Type 8, V-Type 10, and V-Type 12 (* = not sure if such things existed in Sega GT). So if you want your Mazda to make more HP from a rotary engine, or if you want to sample a rotary for your racing car, you probably can.
I think we've got a little of the European perspective on this. How about some of you Japanese, Australian, and especially American types on making race engines? If you play PS2's "Ridge Racer V," you can race with a normal engine for any of the six available cars. As you progress into the Extra class cars, you receive racing-spec engines. As you make it to the fourth and final championship, you get an Oval engine for the Airport Oval course. Also, how would you feel about purchasing crate motors, buying specialized engines (for example, a Judd V10), and things of that nature?
I think we've got a little of the European perspective on this. How about some of you Japanese, Australian, and especially American types on making race engines? If you play PS2's "Ridge Racer V," you can race with a normal engine for any of the six available cars. As you progress into the Extra class cars, you receive racing-spec engines. As you make it to the fourth and final championship, you get an Oval engine for the Airport Oval course. Also, how would you feel about purchasing crate motors, buying specialized engines (for example, a Judd V10), and things of that nature?
I'd like to take the ideas I've seen and liked and put them basically.
Yes, be able to view your cars, but think of the kind of disc space needed to model all of the interior too. So, it's a feasable idea, but depending on the kind of detail you want, it could be limited.
Yes! Paint jobs - decals/colour changing/special paint jobs etc. This should be implemented, without a question. There should be an option of ready-made racing modifications, i.e. paint jobs/decals, even some performance/tuning done, or teh completely ace route, have everything customisable. Paint jobs/decals/performance (all the current stuff etc.) I don't want GT5 turning into, say Midnight Club etc, but having these kind of options would be just amazing, and give your own car its own special look, as opposed to lots of similar cars, especially in the Manufacturer races. At the moment - all the same, perhaps different colours. With the custom paint jobs - WOW!
Yes, be able to view your cars, but think of the kind of disc space needed to model all of the interior too. So, it's a feasable idea, but depending on the kind of detail you want, it could be limited.
Yes! Paint jobs - decals/colour changing/special paint jobs etc. This should be implemented, without a question. There should be an option of ready-made racing modifications, i.e. paint jobs/decals, even some performance/tuning done, or teh completely ace route, have everything customisable. Paint jobs/decals/performance (all the current stuff etc.) I don't want GT5 turning into, say Midnight Club etc, but having these kind of options would be just amazing, and give your own car its own special look, as opposed to lots of similar cars, especially in the Manufacturer races. At the moment - all the same, perhaps different colours. With the custom paint jobs - WOW!
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Did you watch/enjoy this year's 24 Hours of Le Mans? While we've seen a good race by all, I think that if you wanted to, you could modify your car up to be like the GT racing cars. Two interesting cars I seen at this year's race on TV were the Panoz Esperante GTLM and that TVR Tuscan, or whatever it's called. I liked the TVR that raced Le Mans this year, but I did like the Synergy paintscheme on last year's TVR race cars. We're not getting Porsches and Ferraris unless PD challenges Sega or EA for the deals, but with the 49 cars that raced this year at Circuit de la Sarthe, buying and modding prototypes may not be possible (or reply to my "Customer Race Cars" thread in this forum), but you can surely make a GT Race Car out of any powerful machine you have.
If you seen Le Mans this year or seen the GT cars that raced it this year, how would you like modifying the cars up to be pure racers? Also, don't forget about my discussion of purchasing more powerful racing-spec engines for your car. So be sure to reply about that too.
If you seen Le Mans this year or seen the GT cars that raced it this year, how would you like modifying the cars up to be pure racers? Also, don't forget about my discussion of purchasing more powerful racing-spec engines for your car. So be sure to reply about that too.
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In bringing back this thread, I've been thinking. Here in America, we have the Star Mazda series. Star Mazda is a feeder series for the American Le Mans Series. With the Mazda single-seater race cars, I hear the latest race cars are powered by the Renesis engine. The Renesis motor powers one of the most awesome Japanese sports cars of today, the Mazda RX-8.
That has me thinking- what if in your race shop, you're able to purchase or build an open-wheel race car featuring the engine of a certain car? Now hear me out. I'm not talking about putting in a 351 Windsor or a Viper motor into the confines of a standard or not so standard open-wheel race car. I'm talking about street car motors you can maybe fit or configure for an open-wheel race car like some of the Star Mazda race cars. How would you feel about doing something like this at "My Home?"
That has me thinking- what if in your race shop, you're able to purchase or build an open-wheel race car featuring the engine of a certain car? Now hear me out. I'm not talking about putting in a 351 Windsor or a Viper motor into the confines of a standard or not so standard open-wheel race car. I'm talking about street car motors you can maybe fit or configure for an open-wheel race car like some of the Star Mazda race cars. How would you feel about doing something like this at "My Home?"
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What i'd like is if you could buy the parts off the internet or from a catalog (in the game) so you could see them and get a description, and then order the parts and recieve them a week or so later (like in real life). Also, you could actually see the parts going on the vehicle and when you leave the garage, you should see the vehicle drivng out (of course, to make it easier, PD could use the same wireframe model or whatever and have them all exit exactly the same way). And if you can have a paint shop, you should be able to upgrade what you use, i.e. in the beginning you just use store-bought spray cans and then you could upgrade to spray guns and so on.
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At first I thought this was a silly idea, but I've given it some thoughts and I'm warming to the idea some more.
I believe then the series needs new fresh ideas (like photo mode) to help keep it in front of the compitition. And upgrading MY HOME could well be one of those great ideas. Just so long as it doesn't get in the way of the racing.
Allowing the player to add a test track or dyno machine to MY HOME would be nice, so the player can tweak their cars without having to pay for a "free run" on a in game course. Allowing the player to buy one track layout, and then add extra configurations later on would be nice. That way you end up with one track but several options of layout, like Silverstone does.
A parts area where you keep old tuning parts that are no longer needed might be nice. Have a trading system to allow you to sell these online to other players at a reduced price would be cool. You could go one step further and try to include a online commiunty or traders/buyers. Players talking (online) to each other after races, maybe a betting system (with game credits only) might be fun.
I believe then the series needs new fresh ideas (like photo mode) to help keep it in front of the compitition. And upgrading MY HOME could well be one of those great ideas. Just so long as it doesn't get in the way of the racing.
Allowing the player to add a test track or dyno machine to MY HOME would be nice, so the player can tweak their cars without having to pay for a "free run" on a in game course. Allowing the player to buy one track layout, and then add extra configurations later on would be nice. That way you end up with one track but several options of layout, like Silverstone does.
A parts area where you keep old tuning parts that are no longer needed might be nice. Have a trading system to allow you to sell these online to other players at a reduced price would be cool. You could go one step further and try to include a online commiunty or traders/buyers. Players talking (online) to each other after races, maybe a betting system (with game credits only) might be fun.
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It would work. I put money on it. It's a great idea that shouldn't be overlooked. Maybe with your own shop, you could modify your team name, and pitcrew/raceteam uniforms. That'd be a cool addition.
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I've been thinking more and more about this topic yesterday (as in this past Friday). In light of recent rumors of what GT5 could bring, I'm going to revive a number of discussions with relevant information.
The focus of this thread is to think about what it would be like if you could turn your home into a full-on race shop. I'm working on a diagram I may end up scanning and putting on here showing a full range of goods available for upgrade for GT5 if you could actually upgrade your home. Let's just say that the variety of garages can range from your house all the way to something similar to a Formula One race shop. The first post of this thread can be followed here detailing as much as I could about this topic:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1677332&postcount=1
This also ties into Racing Modification talk. Follow this link to discuss this related topic: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=81388
Again, I'll detail some of my ideas in the future. But feel free to look back on if you'll be able to do such a thing in GT5. And if we do get such a feature, how should it be implemented? Reply on.
The focus of this thread is to think about what it would be like if you could turn your home into a full-on race shop. I'm working on a diagram I may end up scanning and putting on here showing a full range of goods available for upgrade for GT5 if you could actually upgrade your home. Let's just say that the variety of garages can range from your house all the way to something similar to a Formula One race shop. The first post of this thread can be followed here detailing as much as I could about this topic:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1677332&postcount=1
This also ties into Racing Modification talk. Follow this link to discuss this related topic: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=81388
Again, I'll detail some of my ideas in the future. But feel free to look back on if you'll be able to do such a thing in GT5. And if we do get such a feature, how should it be implemented? Reply on.
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Great idea JohnBM01. I especially like the wind tunnel part. By the way, I'm new here. Hello to everybody!
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I don't have a diagram, but I'm thinking of about five available upgrades. Your home could double as a race shop according to my plan here. Or, you could plan to still have your home, but be able to visit the race shop in the game. I'm envisioning some hardcore stuff for GT5. The purpose of this post is to showcase the upgradable options for "My Home" in GT5. Some of these ideas will delve into other topics. Some of the ideas I have for modifying "My Home" will be a prelude to what I have planned for my Racing Modifications thread. Here are the levels I'm thinking of for upgrading:
- Level 1: Home -
Your basic home. No racing services, but you can still set up cars for racing.
- Level 2: Steel Garage Building -
The lowest-possible garage. You will be able to work on cars much more. Tight-budget teams will be able to paint up and even fix cars after races. It is also possible to change the oil and wash the car with more professional tools. This gives you a team to actually employ to assist in tuning cars. It makes the tuning process a lot easier for you.
- Level 3: Tuning Garage -
A step up from the plain steel garage building. It is a more professional garage that can handle the duties of modifying cars with a broader number of garage workers. The best incentive is that your shop will grant you the ability to compete for sponsorship. Sponsors acheived will grant you the chance to receive discounts on tuning cars in Gran Turismo 5. For example, winning Honda sponsorship will grant you a discount on purchasing Honda cars available in GT5. Picking up Bridgestone sponsorship will give you a discount on purchasing tires of varying grades.
- Level 4: Commercial Race Shop -
This is your first true racing shop. You will have the ability of creating production-based race cars and perform Racing Modifications to production cars. You will only be limited to only a few cars to be worked on. This will add performance and design departments to your race team. Cars you create will closely resemble production cars in stock specifications and even tuned specifications. The ability to scout young, up-and-coming talent is now available. Scouting grants you the ability to field additional cars and hire teammates to drive the other car in racing series.
- Level 5: Minor Race Shop -
A minor race shop able to have multiple-car teams. Building custom engines is now possible. This will allow you to build race cars to your own specifications. For example, you could make your own Mitsubishi 3000GT with a specialized racing engine with rear-wheel drive and made from carbon fiber. Your own mufflers can also be designed since it will be your own creation. The ability to purchase chasses is available. Operations will be more expensive, so sponsorship should be a consideration in helping you finance the team. A wind tunnel can be purchased to test aerodynamics of your cars.
- Level 6: Major Race Shop -
A racing shop that can be able to enter cars in a variety of racing series. It is similar to racing teams who are juggernauts in a certain field of racing. The same facilities apply from the Minor Race Shop, but you get some more services such as a high-dollar engine testing facility to better test engines. More established drivers are able to be scouted. Established racing teams will be even more popular with fans, so giving fans something to help root on your team (in the form of merchandise and promotions) will help make the team more popular and thus showcases your dominance in Gran Turismo.
- Level 7: World-Class Race Shop -
Similar to a Formula One race team, this is the highest level of "My Home." All the latest technology in designing and testing cars is available to you. You can basically make your own cars and engines to compete in series ranging from sportscar racing to rally to any other discipline you so choose. Working close with manufacturers will give you the ability and tools needed to create winning race cars. Only the finest drivers can be selected to race for you. More stringent racing requirements are needed to recruit the most talented drivers money can buy.
So I'm going deep here. Most of the aforementioned material I discussed earlier in this thread will still apply. I'm actually working on a much bigger project that I will likely share with everyone some other time. I'm sharing ideas which will make a completely different Gran Turismo game. Not so much on the racing front, but in terms of making things a little more professional without being like a micro-management game. What do you think about this "My Home" idea now?
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- Level 1: Home -
Your basic home. No racing services, but you can still set up cars for racing.
- Level 2: Steel Garage Building -
The lowest-possible garage. You will be able to work on cars much more. Tight-budget teams will be able to paint up and even fix cars after races. It is also possible to change the oil and wash the car with more professional tools. This gives you a team to actually employ to assist in tuning cars. It makes the tuning process a lot easier for you.
- Level 3: Tuning Garage -
A step up from the plain steel garage building. It is a more professional garage that can handle the duties of modifying cars with a broader number of garage workers. The best incentive is that your shop will grant you the ability to compete for sponsorship. Sponsors acheived will grant you the chance to receive discounts on tuning cars in Gran Turismo 5. For example, winning Honda sponsorship will grant you a discount on purchasing Honda cars available in GT5. Picking up Bridgestone sponsorship will give you a discount on purchasing tires of varying grades.
- Level 4: Commercial Race Shop -
This is your first true racing shop. You will have the ability of creating production-based race cars and perform Racing Modifications to production cars. You will only be limited to only a few cars to be worked on. This will add performance and design departments to your race team. Cars you create will closely resemble production cars in stock specifications and even tuned specifications. The ability to scout young, up-and-coming talent is now available. Scouting grants you the ability to field additional cars and hire teammates to drive the other car in racing series.
- Level 5: Minor Race Shop -
A minor race shop able to have multiple-car teams. Building custom engines is now possible. This will allow you to build race cars to your own specifications. For example, you could make your own Mitsubishi 3000GT with a specialized racing engine with rear-wheel drive and made from carbon fiber. Your own mufflers can also be designed since it will be your own creation. The ability to purchase chasses is available. Operations will be more expensive, so sponsorship should be a consideration in helping you finance the team. A wind tunnel can be purchased to test aerodynamics of your cars.
- Level 6: Major Race Shop -
A racing shop that can be able to enter cars in a variety of racing series. It is similar to racing teams who are juggernauts in a certain field of racing. The same facilities apply from the Minor Race Shop, but you get some more services such as a high-dollar engine testing facility to better test engines. More established drivers are able to be scouted. Established racing teams will be even more popular with fans, so giving fans something to help root on your team (in the form of merchandise and promotions) will help make the team more popular and thus showcases your dominance in Gran Turismo.
- Level 7: World-Class Race Shop -
Similar to a Formula One race team, this is the highest level of "My Home." All the latest technology in designing and testing cars is available to you. You can basically make your own cars and engines to compete in series ranging from sportscar racing to rally to any other discipline you so choose. Working close with manufacturers will give you the ability and tools needed to create winning race cars. Only the finest drivers can be selected to race for you. More stringent racing requirements are needed to recruit the most talented drivers money can buy.
So I'm going deep here. Most of the aforementioned material I discussed earlier in this thread will still apply. I'm actually working on a much bigger project that I will likely share with everyone some other time. I'm sharing ideas which will make a completely different Gran Turismo game. Not so much on the racing front, but in terms of making things a little more professional without being like a micro-management game. What do you think about this "My Home" idea now?
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-> I'd like to see, as I select my car to be used. The car I selected is ready to be pulled out for *(name event here)*, and all my cars are visible from the background. Like this, from that French magazine (got the pic from the other thread):
-> I will also like to add about the progressive garage system as what you have said earlier JohnBM01, heres a quote from a thread that I replied way before.
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-> I will also like to add about the progressive garage system as what you have said earlier JohnBM01, heres a quote from a thread that I replied way before.
-> And if your car crash in a career mode, it'll be towed to your garage too:-> I'd like to see a 'progressive' style garade, on which when you start a GT game you garage is small (1 car garage w/ your 1st car, messy storage boxes and tools) and as your GT percentage increases along with your credit (aka.money) increases, the look your garage will look a lot nicer, neater, and bigger until to a point that you have your own warehouse that can store all the cars w/ a museum style display on your 'high priority/favorite' cars that can be arranged to your liking. And all this are in 3D, heres an example:
- From this:
- To this:
- To this:
- To this:
- To this:
- To THIS:
...and the size of the garage goes on. (:
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This idea is so good I just can't for the life of me think of a reason why not to have it in GT 5. On the tuning side of things I agree with 90% of the things already posted on here. How about insted of having a R at the end of the car name why don't we have something like this (R34 Skyline GT-R Vspec II BJB Tune) I think that would do. One thing I've Haven't seen yet is the ablitiy to have a open day at your garage for people online to come and see you cars. They can tell you what they think of them a mabey even buy them off you. Of corse you should pay a fee when you enter some thing like 50 credits (On your first garage) to 500 credits (you've got every thing). With this you can pay for more stuff for your garage.
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