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But with a semi-racing exhaust the Corvette sounds tougher and just always looks tougher. Tougher is better for me. Here's the refreshed re-test.

Yep the car is heaps better now. All that twitchiness disappeared with the rigidity refresh purchased, and so did nearly all oversteer. Infortunately now the car feels like it's getting understeer everywhere. Not as bad in the high speed sweepers like the whacked version, but still marginal understeer everywhere. And I'm still getting that wierd buzz from where the engine is. Otherwise it's a very nice very fast car. I doubt I'll bother driving it much being a rotary, but you never know when I'll need it This has nothing on the insanity of my Spyker C8, that thing is crazy and fast. Good tune Leo, I also likes the squat it has limiting the wheelspin it would have otherwise. Any way you could make less understeer?

I believe so, now that I've been fiddling with settings that increase the front end grip a great deal. I can take a shot at it later today.

Cool, let me know the new settings you come up with when you do so I can try them.

I would like to know what´s the "original" name of the skyline...because there are many versions..
I would like to try this car...((Grim R34per))
Thanks

I'm not going to answer that directly. For one single reason. You see it below, taken straight from the opening post.

Greycap

Below the car banners there are two more, linking to complete lists of our cars both in .pdf and .xls format. The original list was made by me in .xls format, after which Evtim added a lot to it, after which I tweaked the hell out of it, after which Pyrelli converted it to .pdf format. Thanks for the help guys! 👍

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Everything in the opening post is there for a reason. I hope the work hasn't been for nothing.

Thanks

let's try not to make Greycap repeat himself..,

I will repeat it as many times as it's needed.

Wolf R32 Review

Built this car to spec, and went out to Cote de Azur for the 1st test, which I chose because it seemed like the best place to test the cars overall balance of acceleration, braking, and handling

During the first two laps, I noticed a slight understeer in some more of the 90 degree angle corners and such, but nothing that could be overcome with proper driving technique (I was just fooling around until the issue kept coming up, then I straightened up)

But other than that, acceleration was fine, braking too, so I decided to go to George V Paris to see how it would handle many more 90 degree corners

It was about the same, a slight amount of understeer, but nothing that wasn't tolerable, and as I was coming down that long straight, A thought occured to me about Leo mentioning the effect of using various techniques can improve the performance of his tunes in the new TC, so I decided to test a few that I know on the next lap to see if the understeer could be removed

Go through the start/finish line, through a few corners, and I arrive at that medium sized hairpin, approaching from the outside, And like a certain green suited BMI driver, with a well-timed yank of the e-brake, I easily slide it through the corner, let the e-brake go, floor it in 2nd while straighting the wheel and come out of the corner nice and clean

I haven't had that nice of a slide in quite some time, and to execute it so easily too ! 👍

A very nice overall car to experiment 4WD related stuff on, I'm going to say 8.5/10

Kurei

Wolf R32 Review

Built this car to spec, and went out to Cote de Azur for the 1st test, which I chose because it seemed like the best place to test the cars overall balance of acceleration, braking, and handling

During the first two laps, I noticed a slight understeer in some more of the 90 degree angle corners and such, but nothing that could be overcome with proper driving technique (I was just fooling around until the issue kept coming up, then I straightened up)

But other than that, acceleration was fine, braking too, so I decided to go to George V Paris to see how it would handle many more 90 degree corners

It was about the same, a slight amount of understeer, but nothing that wasn't tolerable, and as I was coming down that long straight, A thought occured to me about Leo mentioning the effect of using various techniques can improve the performance of his tunes in the new TC, so I decided to test a few that I know on the next lap to see if the understeer could be removed

Go through the start/finish line, through a few corners, and I arrive at that medium sized hairpin, approaching from the outside, And like a certain green suited BMI driver, with a well-timed yank of the e-brake, I easily slide it through the corner, let the e-brake go, floor it in 2nd while straighting the wheel and come out of the corner nice and clean

I haven't had that nice of a slide in quite some time, and to execute it so easily too ! 👍

A very nice overall car to experiment 4WD related stuff on, I'm going to say 8.5/10

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I also have an updated setup for this car, created for TCv3, But the S-Tune kicked the Wolf's fat butt out of the grid. If you wish, I can send it to you for testing.

Leonidae

I also have an updated setup for this car, created for TCv3, But the S-Tune kicked the Wolf's fat butt out of the grid. If you wish, I can send it to you for testing.

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Nah, I'm alright, having to much fun with the Del Sol right now

But just FYI, Dicke Bertha then the Jaguar S-Type RL will be next

You will not like Dicke Bertha.. even I myself consider that car as partial failure.

Greycap

I will repeat it as many times as it's needed.

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wow, you're so cool (amazement).., well, considering someone who lives high up in the Northern Hemisphere..,

i forgot, my review with the R34per?? the review for the Lan-Evo IV TME was supposed to come with it. didn't have time, had to tweak my Spoon EK9 for my thread and TCv3.., not to worry, i already have an untouched Evo IV collecting dust in my garage. expect the CN9A's review to come out soon..,

N 60º 53' 27.13", E 26º 43' 22.46"... well, its not THAT far north.

The Lancer is one of our forgotten warriors, it's good to hear that it's getting back on the track. 👍

Where's Leo with the updates on the FD-R giving more front end grip?

(Do you know how many times my computer didn't register me typing a letter in that sentence? Talk about spelling mistakes.)

Still working on it. I'm also in the middle of my grad work, so it might take time. be patient.

I knew you would mention patience, which at the moment is a little hard to acquire when tomorrow morning I find out if my whole life is screwed for a few years or maybe more.

Going to army or something?

Nah, breathe a sigh of relief- I won't have to sell my car. No transport and no passion= a very dull going no where life.

Once again, we're on the verge of breaking into a new area. This far you've seen slow road cars, fast road cars, road cars built into serious race cars, a couple of true race cars, even a couple of drifters (side products of some attempts to make fast cars, like my MX-5) but there's still one thing missing. Not that fast but definitely needed. It will be revealed tomorrow, I'm opening the game as usual. 👍

Balance.

You guys are gods at tuning, I hope you know' that...

Rallyists? GT300 cars?

Either way, any time you guys go into a new category, wonderful things happen.

...though I'm impartial to those WRC cars. Probably, though, that's just because your desricptions led me to believe they were GT300's, which I'm in love with.

Parts to fit:
Semi-racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Turbo Kit Stage 1
Sports Intercooler
Port Polishing
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
FC Suspension
Dirt / Snow Tyres
Variable Centre Differential
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Rigidity Increase (rollcage)
Rigidity Refresh
Oil Change
New Wheels (optional)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 4.5 / 5.0
Ride Height: 180 / 180
Bound: 2 / 4
Rebound: 6 / 8
Camber: 2.0 / 2.0
Toe: 0 / -1
Stabilizers: 1 / 2

Brake Controller
Brakes: 5 / 10

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.317
2nd: 1.656
3rd: 1.280
4th: 1.061
5th: 0.906
6th: 0.769
Final Gear: 5.250

Autoset 7

LSD
Initial: 5 /30
Acceleration: 20 / 5
Deceleration: 10 / 5

VCD
Variable Centre Differential: 30

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0

Ballast
Ballast weight: 61 kg
Location: 50

The success of the great Lancer Evolution in the rallying world is well known but it owes a lot of its technical parts, including the engine, to its bigger brother Galant. The 4G63T engine debuted in the VR-4 Galant and was found to be so good that it served in the Lancer until the Evo IX was phased out. The history lessons aside, the Galant wasn't bad as a car, it was just too big for the rally roads.

Now it's time to show that it's still a capable piece of steel today, so let's get our hands dirty and dive under the bonnet. There's the heart of the car, as powerful in its Group A trim as ever. Putting out exactly the regulated 300 bhp it's a prime example of an engineering masterpiece that has outlived just about every rivalling design. Connected to the engine is a Group A gearbox with suitably short rally ratios, the redline top speed is just 200 km/h and the fuel cut point is reached barely 10 km/h later. The next part in the drivetrain is the set of adjustable "iron differentials", the electronical gimmicks were unknown at that time so we've gone with the orthodox approach. The hold of the road is ensured by race spec springs and adjustable Öhlins dampers.

In short, it's very close to the car that once began the now glorious history of the four wheel drive Ralliart rockets. Even if this is its final show in the sun it can be safely said that it's one of the real legends of the sports. Without this car there wouldn't be the Evo as we know it.

Disclaimer - This is a pure rally car. Not meant for tarmac courses at all.

Reviews:

by Kurei

The first thing I checked was the banners, to see if you did a time trial through GVS with it, and was pleasantly suprised: "Rally Car - N/A"

Cool.

Jaguar S-Type RL and Dicke Bertha Review

I'm going to keep this review nice and simple, BMI Hot version style, make it easy for everyone 👍

I took the Jaguar S-Type RL out to GVS for its test, and thanks to the power and tuning from MFT, it proved to be an enjoyable ride.

The car is heavy, yes, but this car seems to have unusual habits, for example any other normal, heavy car, has it where when your feathering the throttle or brake on it, it tends to show some understeer, and more so when either full throttle or full brake

The Jaguar was like this, except for the latter, it would understeer a little during any feathering, but once you floored it the car would straighten up at a whiplash speed, if I started understeering at the exit, and instead of backing off, floored it, the car straightened up and gave me a little bit of extra angle to exit the corner faster, a really interesting trait, one that I like, I'm going to say 8.8/10

Now for Dicke Bertha

I went to Midfield Raceway for this test, namely because of the extra power this car has over the Jag., but also to test the cornering ability as well

This car flew down the main straight away, almost faster than actual race cars, impressive but a little worring about the braking distances, but to my relief the brakes were plenty strong, slowly me down as I enterd the corner, where I discovered a little bit of why Leo himself isn't happy with this car

As I started accelerating mid-way through the corner, wheelspin kicked in like a mother, but luckly it stayed straight and I didn't spin it, I went through the rest of course, and as long as I was gentle with the throttle, the car proved to be very fast around the course

I also want to mention the car's amazing turn-in characteristics, steering was almost as light as a drift car, very, very responsive, and on a heavier car too !, I'm going to say 8.9.10, The car is just like any other girl with power, mess with her the wrong way, she'll bite your head off, but respect her, and she may just show you a good time

She didn't harm you? damn.. either you're charming by her standards ( which means that you'd be something like Gimli from LOTR ), or then you gave her so low grade fuel that she didn'ät have strength to do anything to you.. j/k. I'm glad that you could see the inner beauty of this car.

Yea, first date went quite well (and its the first, I'm a real ladies man )

But in all seriousness, I was quite surprised how agile she was for being a bit bigger, just gotta respect the power, and the straights were always fun, she just takes off when you "hit the right button"

(Sorry, couldn't resist it )

Where do I find your TRD Tureno you tuned?

I just tested the drift duo, and was quite pleasantly suprised with their characteristics.

BMW 120i M-Sport S vs. Mazdaspeed MX-5 Spirit RS

Leonidae's 120i seemed doubtful on paper. It just seemed that a modern, heavy chassis with fairly grippy N3 tyres and a mere 300hp wouldn't slide the way it should. Luckily, I was wrong. Leonidae remarked recently that the 120i is a relaxing drive, which worried me. But, somehow, this car does make drifting a relatively mellow experience. Don't be mistaken, this car doesn't fly through corners at psychotic angles with D1-esque tire smoke; it prefers a more civilized, low-angle drift reminiscent of Initial D. In low-speed turns, excessive wheelspin (in fact, nearly any wheelspin) is no problem at all, and the throttle must be modulated only for the sake of tracing the proper path. Steering responses are forgiving and precise, and little to no flailing about the steering wheel is required, even in those pesky S-turns, which I still can't drift through well with any car but this. Braking understeer is minimal, but present. But, the brakes are somehow still forward enough to cause oversteer when braking sideways through a decreasing-radius corner, and the balancing act between these two extremes is impressive and rewarding. The downforce is perfect on the car, causing no unnatural behaviour in the car's motion, and only subtly stabilizing the car as speed rises. The effect is that, if driven vigorously enough, it will drift quite well at high speed, but be just stable enough to make its way through a high-speed S-turn coherently. However, the transmission ratios are slightly too high for the mechanical ability of the car, and I don't really see the point of an essentially arbitrary sixth gear. However, I love the first gear (flooring throttle results in revs stabilizing about 1000RPM under rev limiter until wheelspin stops a fraction of a second later), so just shortening some of the higher gears would seem to do the trick. Other than the gearbox issue, though, I've really got nothing to complain about in this relaxing yet capable tail-out machine.

Greycap's Miata, in contrast to Leo's car, seemed like the perfect drifter on paper. It's small, lightweight, and its N3 tyres match its other specs perfectly for tail-out behaviour. Instantly after beginning to drive it, the difference between the BMW and the Mazda is clear: Where the BMW is relaxing, the Mazda is invigorating. Leonidae described the Miata as a rev-happy party animal, and, once again, his thoughts were perfectly on the mark. In low-speed corners where the BMW relied on momentum and full-throttle, the Miata danced through, with utmost poise and care, at perhaps 85% throttle and equal pace. If the driver is experienced at throttle control, the Miata is actually very similar to the sublime 120i in low-speed corners. However, the Miata is unphased at high speeds, with its lack of downforce and weight, and accomplishes much higher angles through high-speed corners, feeling just as controlled as the BMW at a lower angle. Additionally, the Miata has less drag to hold it back at high speeds, and it reaches much higher velocities when floored. S-turns, though, are more difficult here than with the BMW, requiring quick and accurate steering inputs to maintain cornering composure. As speeds rise, this problem gets worse, and high-speed esses such as corners 4 and 5 of GVS are very difficult to execute properly. Like the BMW, the brake balance of this car has struck a nice, happy medium between the ability to cause oversteer when braking while sideways and the ability of turning into a corner without excessive understeer. This is an exquisite piece of tuning, and, with the exception of high-speed esses, there is nothing to be complained about here, either.

In the end, the difference between the two cars mirrors the difference between Leonidae and Greycap. Leo's car sacrifices ultimate ability in favour of ease-of-use, and Grey's car slightly ignores controllablity in favour of the highest ability (when driven perfectly) imaginable. This much was very perdictable. What I didn't expect was that the 120i would be as capable as it is, or that the Miata would be as controllable as it is. I'm very impressed with both tunes, and I can only pick out a single flaw in either of them: Leo's transmission is slightly too long, and Grey's car is slightly too difficult at high-speed esses.

Thus, I shall give each car a shining 9.75/10!

I love it! If you want to make any more, by all means, go insane. For a tuning duo who once vowed never to make a single drifter, your specialized creations go sideways astonishingly well.