Idea to Promote Clean Racing Online

Skynyrd1977

Skynyrd1977

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Chadwicksracing gave me an idea. I thought his new tag Racecleanstupid was pretty funny. But what if a lot of racers were to create a secondary PSN ID with a similar “Try2RaceClean” message as their ID? After a few laps running around with the 🤬 bashers, they have no choice but to read your tag. It could actually sink in to some. I know because I am proof.

Since GT1, I have only raced against the AI. After years of built up contempt for their ability to switch to 4wd with off-road tires every time they went into the sand, enabling them to pop right back onto the track, while I have to snail along in slow motion when it happens to me, I became numb to the occurrence of hitting them, and didn’t really care. After all, they weren’t real, and they cheated! And, they hit me too! Lots of these bangers are coming in new with this same thinking.

When I first started racing online, which was with GT5P, I carried this attitude with me at first, not really thinking about the other cars as a real person. And when they bashed me, boy, I spent the rest of the race going back for them. But after reading the posts on this site, I realized that racing clean really was to my preference, it is nobler, and it is truthfully more rewarding. I made the decision to race as clean as possible (or at least as clean as my temper and adrenaline could be controlled!)

So if a lot of racers started showing up online with something along the lines of some the following PSN IDs, maybe we could eliminate some bashers? You could race a few time with this ID then leave and come back with you normal ID. Or if you’re in a race with them, leave and come back with the ‘message’ ID.

Just a few examples:

CanYouRaceClean
Best_are_Clean
Be_Nice
BashMeNot
CanYouWinClean
Losers_Bash
BashersHavNoSkil
BabyOnBoard
Try_it_Clean
B_Clean4aChange
Dont_Tread_On_Me
BestDontBash
Clean=Skill
Bashers_Are_Scum
CleanFeelsBetter
PuntersLose

With the brain power of the folks on this site, a lot of creative names could be created.

Of course, this is all voluntary, naturally. But the written word has a lot of power, it chaged my attitude reading it here. Being new to online racing, I don’t know anything about these private rooms, but I’m curious if this might help until things are fixed in the future.
Watcha’ think? :)
 
GTP_chemicaL
But then we would have to keep switching our PSN accounts and i think it would encourage the punters.
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You can have multiple PSN IDs, I currently have 3 PSN IDs, and there is no way a punter would know you were the same person. I'm talking about, say, during one night of racing, race with one ID for a while, then if desired, switch to the other. It would be only switching to the other account when you felt like it, only once, maybe twice twice per day/night of racing.
 
Why dangle a steak in front of a starving Ethiopian,you are just asking for trouble ( my personal opinion ). It's the same concept,the punters will see this and go after you just like that starving Ethiopian would.
 
Although it's a subtle way of telling them, I know from experience from several online games telling people to stop doing something you don't like they either don't listen or become worse or abusive.

Just let them be (unfortunetely).
 
ImagineByLennon
Why dangle a steak in front of a starving Ethiopian,you are just asking for trouble ( my personal opinion ). It's the same concept,the punters will see this and go after you just like that starving Ethiopian would.
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When you're fast or if you have a GTP_ tag, they're coming afte you anyway. You're already that dangling steak. But when they are staring at your name in the 1st place position after the race, which says "I did it clean", it might just sink in a little. And the more times it happens, who knows?

The ones that will never change, will never change. As one who has been there, I know some will. There is intelligent life out there (though sometimes hard to beleive). ;)
 
Normally the people that bash don't really care about anyone else. In my opinion, if a dirty racer sees a tag "Bashmenot" or "Dontcrashme" they'll be like "OH YEAH!!! WATCH ME!"
 
SaNTi iTNaS
Normally the people that bash don't really care about anyone else. In my opinion, if a dirty racer sees a tag "Bashmenot" or "Dontcrashme" they'll be like "OH YEAH!!! WATCH ME!"
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+1

I was in a few races last night with a racecleanyouidiots and the poor GT-R was the target of everyone on track. Sadly, it just encourages Mario-Kart behavior.
 
I saw racecleanknobs yesterday. Made me lose because punters kept flying through him, when he ghosted.
 
I think most of the problem is drivers just dont know how to race clean.

I say outside of GTP in the wild it's like this:

75% - Never raced online with a SIMULATION where contact is not encouraged but is prohibited, therefore they are not sure how to control themselves around others after years of leaning on AI cars in GT and bashing other cars in Motorstorm and Burnout. Also lack the general awareness of cars around them and car control skill to complete safe passes and drive in close proximity.

20% - Don't really care if they hit you or not, they're not going to go out of their way to try and stay clean. They won't just run you over, but they won't go out of their way to make sure they don't.

5% - Will punt you on purpose

Instead of encouraging bad driving behavior by making them pass 15 cars in one lap in events in order to race online, how about having license tests that show you how to properly overtake a car without touching it, and showing them which corners are suitable for a pass and which are not.

I'm not talking about one lap missions where you have to pass 15 cars, I'm talking about setting the driver up going down a straight with an AI car ahead of him and he has to outbrake the car, stay on the inside without touching the AI car, and accelerate out of the corner ahead of the AI car.
 
Timppaq
how about:

ibetyoucantpuntme

;)
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đź‘Ť I like.

OK, so I created this ID: RU2slow2winCLEAN

I went into 700pp Daytona international, and it was no more than the usual.
But I still took 1st, almost every race, and the ones I lost were my fault. :cool:
 
Skynyrd77,your thoughts are good,however I still dis-agree with the name thing,you are a duck in the pond waiting to be shot at,hang loose,be cool,play the role of the sly fox and pounce at the last second,get them all by surprise.I also went to Daytona 700pp,started 7th,moved up a few positions,laid back, hovered around 3rd-4th-5th-6th (did not want to be the leader)(worse thing to be at Daytona),until the back stretch and turns 3 &4, then cut loose like a house of fire,smoked them all.My theory is to fly under the radar,unsuspecting,gets them every time.
 
I remember racing with this guy who's name was RACECLEANMORONS

I'm not sure if he's in GTP, but in every race he was in, it was a fairly clean race
 
Race clean, race fair. It's the best way to win converts:

Yesterday I was playing GTP on line at suzuka and trying to keep somebody behind on the straight before the 130r.

I went and brake as late as possible but in time and , you guessed it, i got bumped and beached.

I was upset, of course, and frustrated, but being almost the rule there, I was pretty much just trying to turn the car around to start racing as soon as possible.

And then something weird happened.The guy was waiting for me!
he waited the whole time I made it out of the sand, let me pass and start racing again.

Well, that deserves credit. And big kudos. In fact this is my first post in a long time and I felt it needed to be recognized.

His name was GTP_Hearth, and I hope I will be racing him again!
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From the SCEA forums.
 
Earth
I think most of the problem is drivers just dont know how to race clean.

I say outside of GTP in the wild it's like this:

75% - Never raced online with a SIMULATION where contact is not encouraged but is prohibited, therefore they are not sure how to control themselves around others after years of leaning on AI cars in GT and bashing other cars in Motorstorm and Burnout. Also lack the general awareness of cars around them and car control skill to complete safe passes and drive in close proximity.

20% - Don't really care if they hit you or not, they're not going to go out of their way to try and stay clean. They won't just run you over, but they won't go out of their way to make sure they don't.

5% - Will punt you on purpose

Instead of encouraging bad driving behavior by making them pass 15 cars in one lap in events in order to race online, how about having license tests that show you how to properly overtake a car without touching it, and showing them which corners are suitable for a pass and which are not.

I'm not talking about one lap missions where you have to pass 15 cars, I'm talking about setting the driver up going down a straight with an AI car ahead of him and he has to outbrake the car, stay on the inside without touching the AI car, and accelerate out of the corner ahead of the AI car.
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So according to you, 100% of people outside this forum either dont know how to drive in a sim, dont care what happens or will purposly punt you?!?!?!

Your 110% wrong there mate! I do agree with your reasons, but not your percentages. All my mates that play GT are clean racers, but only one of them has ever visited this site, even then, he still hasn't joined.

There are plenty of clean racers outside these forums, however the majority are the ones you describe above.
 
Timppaq
how about:

ibetyoucantpuntme

;)
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"ibetyoucantpuntm [FI]" just took his first victories... and the results were promising. I had 5 races, first two no punting towards me (was also a bit lucky to get clean 1,2,3 turns) 3rd race a fast [JP] guy was hunting me and finally got close.. then it happened. I got punted.. and it seemed at first intentional. but after the next turn there he was waiting for me!! đź‘Ť ..and actually there was another guy too waiting ([NZ]).. :D đź‘Ť race 5 was clean also.. so this looks good. I'll continue my research....

:)

..also I had the best LAUGH EVER, when a [GB] guy came after me in the esses with a red GTR clearly looking for a nice little punt... tried and tried but every corner I managed to get so late apex that he just kept missing me by an inch... :lol: ..then at denger 2 he lost it to the kitty litter. !!! :D ..I think I won that bet. ;)

..I wish I could have seen his face.
 
I think it's a good idea. Having the word Holden in my name probably encourages Ford fans and Ricer Boyz to punt me, but I'm too proud of it to give it up.
 
Great idea..oh wait..I already did it! lol

So I am guessing a lot of you think you will get punted more because of a PSN like mine? Well the answer is, NO. I have been punted just as often as in my GTP_CWR tag. Does my tag help me not GET PUNTED? Probablly not. But it makes me laugh when I think about it, and hopefully it makes others laugh.. And Just maybe..maybe it might turn a few heads out there..And just maybe it will make a few punt me on purpose.. Oh yes, that has happen a lot more..been punted on purpose..brake checks..sideswips..ect. But overall..I have been punted just the same as if I was wearing my GTP_CWR tag. So you see, while it doesn't help any, it does make me feel better when I display the tag online.. I love it. :)

I hope more have the courage as me to display a messaged tag..

Thanks
 
Chadwicksracing
Great idea..oh wait..I already did it! lol

So I am guessing a lot of you think you will get punted more because of a PSN like mine? Well the answer is, NO. I have been punted just as often as in my GTP_CWR tag. Does my tag help me not GET PUNTED? Probablly not. But it makes me laugh when I think about it, and hopefully it makes others laugh.. And Just maybe..maybe it might turn a few heads out there..And just maybe it will make a few punt me on purpose.. Oh yes, that has happen a lot more..been punted on purpose..brake checks..sideswips..ect. But overall..I have been punted just the same as if I was wearing my GTP_CWR tag. So you see, while it doesn't help any, it does make me feel better when I display the tag online.. I love it. :)

I hope more have the courage as me to display a messaged tag..

Thanks
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đź‘Ť

It does make you feel better coming out ahead of the bozos when you are using a tag that slaps them upside the head verbally.
 
Chadwicksracing
Great idea..oh wait..I already did it! lol

So I am guessing a lot of you think you will get punted more because of a PSN like mine? Well the answer is, NO. I have been punted just as often as in my GTP_CWR tag. Does my tag help me not GET PUNTED? Probablly not. But it makes me laugh when I think about it, and hopefully it makes others laugh.. And Just maybe..maybe it might turn a few heads out there..And just maybe it will make a few punt me on purpose.. Oh yes, that has happen a lot more..been punted on purpose..brake checks..sideswips..ect. But overall..I have been punted just the same as if I was wearing my GTP_CWR tag. So you see, while it doesn't help any, it does make me feel better when I display the tag online.. I love it. :)

I hope more have the courage as me to display a messaged tag..

Thanks
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I admire your boldness đź‘Ť I prefer not to stir up the restless natives,they are already wired for 220 when they enter an event,but it does got to make you feel good seeing your " clean name " on top of the board , once again to Chadwick đź‘Ťđź‘Ť
 
If i'm really racing good & clean and being in the lead, and some keeps on punting me, and i'm in the front when starting the race - I'll skip and shot the server down, and stop playing on that event for some time, I'm so tired of it, It's like almost impossible to have a whole race with out morons, of course It's easy to punt a persons car when you are racing, and it happens, But you can easylie know the drifferent's between a accident and a Moron action, another thing about the online, is the wackling jumping from side to side Cars ( Connection) and that's makes it almost like suicide to pass, even if the driver is making room for you..

( I Don't like stopping the host) But I do think it's the only way to get this solved, if we all started to skip the games, when punting is going on, more will learn, but Not all of course, If you are in a race, where it goes on you loose the idea of driving it anyway, so !! I really don't wanna host a Morons race.. Do you!! ;)

And the idea of showing your excuse, like stopping and waiting for the other driver is the only langues we can use, without any mick or chat.. and it works brilliantly..

I love winning, but i do love a Clean race more, even if i'm the last to get over the end line.. I do think most of you will agree to that..

ps.. the race i'm talking about isn't the beginners, but the next level before experts
(can't spell it he he) and ya, it also goes on in the Expert event's, but not that much..

when private room comes, we will have a totally new experience with GT5, I just can't wait..

Dream Extreme
Flagmo-T Driver Name "TeamMoFF No2"

Edit_ Forgot to add, that it's funny enough Most spanish and italian and GB drivers that hasn't got the idea of Clean racing.. EU server i guess..
but i raced with GTP_Sphinx and two of his other buddies on Expert suzuka, and they had a driving party going on hehe, they manage to punt one of the guys out in the sand, ut waited for him to recover again, and i was let by, ( they pulled over ) and wow that was like a real driving experience eheh

Another thought on why Sometime quiting a Host, It's a Little Wink to PD, To focus on giving us the private Server, or rather a well coded server section, as soon a possible, The game suffers a big deal, same goes for GriD - Ferarri Challenge (when it works) it seem's to me that people and children likes Racer games, But as some one wrote, the Don't get it!! because they wont learn before going online..

"For PD"
PD Move your Creative Energy on well coded Networking, that's gonna keep the game interresting untill you decide to share more delicious Stuff..
( it's actually a little shame on you, other race games has that in somekind of control, but this is like Quanty physics in CHAOS "Missing fuse")
 
LOL Respect!! It sends a clean messege, but only to the Moron that understand english hehe, Damn I said it.. :)

Flaggie..
 
I got pissed about something that happened here in "real" life, and thought about creating a id: "puntmeandiquit" as I'm the host in 80% of my races, so I would have the priviledge... DAMN PUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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