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It's the Supra SZ-R. Nice.

I definitely have to try that one out, being both a Toyota fan and a Supra fan. The test probably won't be on the endurance races though unless I get some time on the weekend.

Leonidae

and one set of DOT-approved long-lasting slicks.

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Ahem, that would be road-legal.

DOT-legal slicks have just the small amount of tread needed to be legal, so technically, the S-grade tires are DOT slicks and the R-grades are proper road-racing slicks.

Actually it is, in certain countries (for example Germany), possible to use full slicks even on the road but the car needs a special permission for that, including weather limitations. If caught driving in rain or even on a cold day the driver is likely to get fined for driving an illegally equipped car. So technically you can have full slicks that are DOT approved... splitting hairs but the world is so weird at times that almost everything is possible.

nice new car, compared to the last pair the power-figures look cute, but i bet the Supra can be a fast car!

viper

It indeed should be able to win those races.. in theory.

Parts to fit:
Semi-racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Port Polishing
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
FC Suspension
S1 / S2 / S3 / R1 Tyres
Weight Reduction Stage 1
Oil Change
New Wheels (optional)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 5.0 / 6.5
Ride Height: 115 / 125
Bound: 4 / 6
Rebound: 6 / 8
Camber: 2.0 / 1.5
Toe: 0 / -2
Stabilizers: 3 / 5

Brake Controller
Brakes: 5 / 9

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 3.231
2nd: 2.247
3rd: 1.755
4th: 1.435
5th: 1.200
6th: 1.013
Final Gear: 4.100

Autoset 12

LSD
Initial: 10
Acceleration: 20
Deceleration: 5

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0

Ballast
Ballast weight: 45 kg
Location: 50

It's widely known that the Honda S2000 is one of the best balanced cars in its class, making it a very entertaining and relaxing ride. Building on these properties Honda developed a special endurance racing model using the Type V as a base, and promptly naming it as Type R in the best street performance style. The car was stripped of any unnecessary comfortability gadgets such as sound insulation but the basic body was left intact. The engine was subtly improved without endangering low range power or reliability, raising the power output to a respectable 295 wild horses. The suspension components were borrowed from Mugen, as well as the internals for the gearbox and the differential. The previously unemployed trunk now holds a portable fire extinguisher as well as some extra ballast to bring the car to a weight level regulated by the race rules. Equipped with trackday tyres of your choice on seven spoke Honda wheels this car will carry you through several hours of racing without breaking a sweat.

Reviews:

by Belisario93
by EA11R
by stidriver

Hmm a S2000, I hate Honda but I might have to give that a try...

The reputation of Hondas is indeed sometimes enough to turn people away but take the chance and be pleasantly surprised. 👍

At some point, we will ( at least I will ) revisit few old AWD setups of mine, namely the R4 and Frost. Thanks to a recent little brainstorm I had, I've managed to improve the cornering ability and traction of the Audi S/RS lineup ( not counting S3 that has same Haldex-differential as VW's R32 or Bora 2.8. Audi TT quattros are included to this, as is VW Beetle RSi), and I have reason to believe that both R4 and Frost will benefit from this. Stay tuned.. fast and NIMBLE AWD's are ready to rumble.

For those wondering why our Excel spreadsheet is (was) lacking a ton of cars, don't wonder anymore. I've updated it and asked for a new PDF. 👍

It seems the endurance interest around here isn't that high... oh well, at least we tried. And you can't succeed without trying.

I like the endurance setups, I've been looking for some. I'll try them out when I find the time

Greycap

For those wondering why our Excel spreadsheet is (was) lacking a ton of cars, don't wonder anymore. I've updated it and asked for a new PDF. 👍

It seems the endurance interest around here isn't that high... oh well, at least we tried. And you can't succeed without trying.

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It's the time issue mainly. Endurance races take time. Period.

I'd give at least one of them a thorough wringing but I can't due to my low completion percentage (20.7% IIRC... Lost data sucks) and the fact that GT4 has decided to not get along with my PS2.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat as RJ. No time to do enduros, especially when you see the red wheel of death at the end of a 200 mile (or longer) race.

That said, I've eagerly written down details for that Supra and will probably look around for a Honda to at least try it out. I still have a few reviews to send off to you (and a few to other garages) so please give us some time before getting disheartened. I don't want to make a post like 'yeah you'll see it on Saturday' cause it seems a bit spammish.

Just remember Leo and Grey, we are thinking of, using, testing and (hopefully) writing reviews of your tunes, there's simply not much time to get it all in.

For example, I'm desperate to read more reviews of our birthday present (Shelby). I've got the stats down, I managed to get the car and test it stock, but am still struggling to find the time to test it properly. In fact I've started a testing list on the front page of my GT4 folder so I will have a list and timeframe of cars I want to review.

In summary: we love youse but if we're not reviewing it doesn't mean we don't love youse, we're just short of time.

PF

Don't let it get you down too much guys. The fact of the matter is their aren't that many new members to test cars or people have trouble writing reviews. The review therefore should fall down onto the enthusiasts that have their own garages. I review other peoples cars where possible. Everyone's struggling to strike up some business.

Thanks guys for putting my (18th) birthday in your Threads title!

Vince247

Thanks guys for putting my (18th) birthday in your Threads title!

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Vince....

PF - Spammish... not really, more like indicating there is something happening. Every glimpse of hope is welcome at this point of the lifespan of GT4.

CamryFan - In a way the absence of new members is actually a good thing, personally I appreciate the veterans' opinions more as they have knowledge of many cars. For a newcomer any car feels good, a veteran can analyze it better. Having said that, every review is naturally welcome but the veterans' ones are usually of a lot more benefit to us.

Vince247 - You're welcome! Take full advantage of it as long as you can, it'll be changed soon...

Ahh, too bad! Haha.

Just wondering, you guys have anything special coming up soon?

Not that special, but a new car nonetheless. In the near future if everything goes well.

Parts to fit:
Racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Balance Controller
Turbo Kit Stage 4
Racing Intercooler
Port Polishing
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
FC Transmission
Triple-plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
FC LSD
Carbon Driveshaft
FC Suspension
R3 Tyres
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Rigidity Increase (rollcage)
Rigidity Refresh
Oil Change
New Wheels (optional)

Suspension
Spring Rate: 11.0 / 7.5
Ride Height: 145 / 130
Bound: 10 / 8
Rebound: 10 / 10
Camber: 2.0 / 1.5
Toe: -3 / -2
Stabilizers: 6 / 7

Brake Controller
Brakes: 5 / 4

Transmission

Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

Gear Ratios
1st: 2.130
2nd: 1.500
3rd: 1.153
4th: 0.933
5th: 0.772
6th: 0.637
Final Gear: 4.075

Autoset 15

LSD
Initial: 25/25
Acceleration: 10/15
Deceleration: 10/20

Driving Aids
ASM Oversteer: 0
ASM Understeer: 0
TCS: 0



You thought that all Audi Quattros are overweight, understeery rich mans toys? Well, S4R will gladly prove that you're wrong. Powered by 2.7l twinturbo V6, this quite essentially German sedan will glue you in the bucket seat. Why? It has 552 reasons to go fast at high revs and 664 friends to push it from low down. I admit, this car is bit of a trackday hooligan, as the R-class tyres and roll cage indicate, but it will change the way you look at sporty Audis. I hope you have Pilots licence.. FIA's licence probably won't cover the sheer ferocity of this cars performance.

Wow, thats a lot of negative toe. The ride height is also taller in the front than it is in the rear.

....I should try this out.

well, there's a good reason for that. before I lowered the rear, the car had the typical nose-heavy 4wd's tendency to have the rear-end stepping out violently under braking, and I didn't want to ruin the rest of the handling by trying to reign it in with the LSD.

I'm about to undergo some testing on that Audi. I assume you usede the new S4 from the Audi dealership?

EDIT: Nevermind, It says Rigidity Refresh on the parts list, if only I had read that first...

yeah, it's the used '98 S4..

Not to mention he talks about the V6 in the post. And the body is quite different.

And not to mention that the car name quite clearly says '98 both in the banner and on the post itself.

Audi S4R Review

The Audi S4. Somewhat of an understated car, never revealing the power and potential of what the car has to offer, hiding it all away under the inoffensive, conservative body. If that explains the stock S4 then apply it to the S4R and crank the volume of it all the way to 11 'cause this S4R redefines the term “sporty Audi” .

I first came across and Audi S4 awhile ago. It was bright red and 4WD and at the time it was what I needed. I bought one that very day and It has been my daily driver ever since. I did dabble with the power and suspension but never got too far with it and eventually turn it back to stock. Even with the stock setup I ran rings around Costa Di Amalfi and usually could get around the run in about 2 minutes and 19 seconds. It was nice, sedate, fairly fast but not overly sporty.

This is where the S4R comes in. I was driving past MFT on the way the way home and I saw this stunning S4R. It looked at lot nicer with the lower suspension and the excellent wheels that adorned the wheel arches. Without thinking even slightly I dropped nearly $300,000 on the table and ran off to my new toy.

On face value, it would never replace my daily driver. It has no carpets, no stereo and no trim. It only had one seat and when I turned it on it nearly deafened me. I had driven an S4 whenever I went to work so I though piece of cake, I slipped in into first and I tore off, leaving a big fat 11. This brought a huge smile to my face. I thought to my self, “This car is serious”. I drove up along the highway toward Costa Di Afamlfi, a brief squirt of the throttle had me quickly on the best side of 150kph, I eased the car down, the highway wasn't the best place to test the speed of the vehicle. Even the tires where realistically road legal either. A surprisingly short while later and I joined onto the top section of the run. I instantly found the the limits where not to be tested here. Charging down to the twin hairpins before the main straight, I hit the brakes, they aren't too bad but I spun the tyres through first. I did much prefer the new gearbox installed by MFT. It was a lot more logical for racing then the S4 standard box. It would have no trouble through 2-6 but first always granted wheelspin. On the first lap I blitz my time of 2:19. The S4R did a 1:55!. An amazing 24 seconds above stock.

My next location was Fuji Speedway. On Fuji I could fully test the car and the tyre bursting speed. Carry as much speed as I could when I hit the brakes at the end of the main straight I saw 302 kph on the clock. I'm sure that 200mph or 320kph is possible from this car. Driving around Fuji confirmed something I had realised on Afamlfi. The understeer has been controlled to a near acceptable level but only the best drivers can get the most out of this car. Turn in tight and power out of the apex and you'll be fine. Brake too late or miss the apex and you'll be in trouble. Luckly the 522Bhp motor is so incredible that it can make up for anyone's bad driving.

I did some small tweaking on Fuji and I found that the brakes can be made stronger by at least one click without any skidding. For my general preference I had lowered the stabilisers to make it less “springy” and more excepting to it's new owner.

Once again in summary this car will change the way you think about sporty Audi's and this car is always a laugh. It shakes and shudders because of the high damper setting but it has no real negative effects on the tracks of Afamlfi and Fuji and makes the car feel savage and on the edge even if it's in a straight line. The power is fantastic over the stock motor and the gearbox is more then capable. Unfortunately I didn't get to any race testing but it is great for timetrials and perhaps for very quick trips to the shop.

9.5 out of 10.

Thanks for this long and detailed review, CamryFan! I know, this car wasn't as comfortable or easy to drive as most of my tunes, but it's a trackday version and we can't have trackday blasts if the car rolls around in corners like rowboat on stormy sea, can we? keep up the good work! and as usual, request and I'll deliver..

You had to release that thing right when my PS2 goes on the fritz, didn't you?