Best in class wheelstand and SIM frame

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Best in Class Wheel Stand for mass market

  • Fanatec Wheelstand

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • Wheelstand Pro

    Votes: 21 70.0%

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wow the gamepod gt2 is really nice, however I wouldnt pay the 610$ price tag for it
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Though it is cool that you can choose the color and stuff!
Heres where you can get one http://www.gamepod.co.uk/gt2.asp#shop

I would agree with you on nice. I think its well built with very solid design I think its the most solid among all that I have seen so far but price wise yes it is pricey. But that would be the price for a quality design I think. :) My only gripe would be the shifter being the same level as the wheel and not a little lower or adjustable. That is where the Obutto comes ahead with full adjustability, but design wise the Gamepod is prettier to look at.

I don't know if this is true or not, but I've heard the Fanatec Stand can't be adjusted past 90 degrees from up-right. This would be a problem for me as I'm quite tall so need to have the pedals far away but the wheel close (if you know what I mean).

Also I've heard from the Fanatec Wheel thread that their customer service isn't that great at the moment.


Can anyone confirm this if its true that there is the 90 degree limit?
 
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Than You!

I sent a PM to the Rinoseat representative to get a price quote. Seems like it would be around 300-400USD or more.

Thats a bit pricey for a lounge chair then. Sorry. :crazy:
 
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He mentioned that there will be 3 Versions. GTR, GT, and F1 (might wait for the F1 version). Yah, well that's because its originally in Euro (319ER shipped pre-ordered).

319ER = 434USD :(

I blame the US dollar for the price :D
 
Thats a bit price for a lounge chair then. Sorry. :crazy:

Why do you call it "lounge chair"?

Frame has handles for wheel, pedal and shifter (all you can adjust) and seat will be a true copy of the RECARO racing seat, as it is written.
...final seat will be such http://www.recaro.com/index.php?id=5810&region=3&L=2...

the bucket seat seems large enough

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and the weight is only 10kg/22lb (good solution when you have PS3 and PC in different rooms, like me)

+ no steering bar between legs
+ strong steering bar support (two wide tubes)
+ good looking
+ everything is adjustable (even the wheel angle, the pedal angle and the seat angle???)


Here in Europe, Playseat costs 349EUR+49EUR(shifter adapter)=398EUR
Price of Rhinoseat ... 269EUR is much, much less then 398EUR

We will see the final product...
 
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i think its better looking than the Obutto seat... and plus its foldable?
How much will it cost if i order from US?
 
I don't know if this is true or not, but I've heard the Fanatec Stand can't be adjusted past 90 degrees from up-right. This would be a problem for me as I'm quite tall so need to have the pedals far away but the wheel close (if you know what I mean).

Also I've heard from the Fanatec Wheel thread that their customer service isn't that great at the moment.

I'm 6' tall and all leg. In cars without telescoping wheels, I either have to either have my arms straighter than I'd like, or have my legs bunched up a bit. The Fanatec Rennsport Wheel Stand works fine for me even though its only locked position is perpendicular. If I'm using the chair in the office, the fit is fine with the pedals all the way back. If I'm using it on the sofa, I just put a cushion behind me and that solves the driving position for me. I get the feeling it should work. If you're handy with a drill, you could make an additional locking hole in the bar that rotates.

As for customer service, my experience has been fine. In one instance I had to fill in the customer service form and submit again, but the issue (replacement shifter) was handled within 3 business days. I think it's hit or miss, judging from these forums. I'd operate under the assumption that Fanatec is still working out the kinks, so I wouldn't expect world class service until proven otherwise.
 
Yes, im serious. It's an opinion. To each to his own tastes :tup

Indeed. It just seems odd to me. Rinoseat is and always has been known for making an ergonomically correct, but aesthetically underachieving product. This latest iteration is probably a very good cockpit (although I'm not convinced), but it doesn't look like much. The Obutto on the other hand, looks quite good for the price point. Much better looking than a Playseat or similar, and the seat looks far better (while, again, it may be ergonomically superior) than the Rinoseat option. Although, their new design far exceeds what the old cockpit utilized, which resembled a folding lawn chair even more closely.



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Thanks for the extra pics. That bucket seat looks good. I bet it will even look good with a custom seatcover, nicely done.

Thanks mate, as promised here are some RL photos of the CAD models I had posted before of the 'FTT' and the 'Race Seat':

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for ease of comparation, i made a mixture of the two images ... obutto and rinoseat

any comment?

There's not much to comment on. They look similar, but the Obutto still has the edge on looks. Ergonomics remain to be seen (for the Rinoseat). Hopefully it's far better than their last attempt at a cokpit, which had one of the most laughable seats, and flimsy designs I have seen. Consequently, their last desing didn't sell all that well.

I hope they can work the bugs out, and offer their new design at a reasonable price. As it is (around $300 or more, correct me if I'm wrong), it's just seems to be too much money for what you're getting, in my opinion.

Thanks mate, as promised here are some RL photos of the CAD models I had posted before of the 'FTT' and the 'Race Seat':

That is one beautiful setup. 👍

Do you plan on adding padding to the seat section?



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That is one beautiful setup. 👍

Do you plan on adding padding to the seat section?


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cheers mate :D

I designed it so that it doesn't require padding, the contour of the seat evenly supports the whole mass of the body along it's entire surface which makes it even more comfortable than a padded seat that is only supporting the weight through one point.

This chair was designed for a friend who originally thought he'd require a cushion to sit on it but he has since revised his opinion. :P
 
cheers mate :D

I designed it so that it doesn't require padding, the contour of the seat evenly supports the whole mass of the body along it's entire surface which makes it even more comfortable than a padded seat that is only supporting the weight through one point.

This chair was designed for a friend who originally thought he'd require a cushion to sit on it but he has since revised his opinion. :P

Interesting.

It sure looks the business, that's for sure. Easily the most aesthetically pleasing wooden cockpit out there, bar none. 👍



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Thanks mate, as promised here are some RL photos of the CAD models I had posted before of the 'FTT' and the 'Race Seat'
Brilliant work! 👍 I can imagine people would buy these. :)
 
Kudos to 96330 excelent wood work! my friend. But even for just effects a nice sporty cushion with some racing colors or even you logo on it would add a lot. Give it some brand identity. Just my .02 cents. Still by far an excelent design. I would say if Chilicokes steel frame rig is tops right now yours would be tops in the woodframe class. :bowdown:
 
Why do you call it "lounge chair"?

Frame has handles for wheel, pedal and shifter (all you can adjust) and seat will be a true copy of the RECARO racing seat, as it is written.
...final seat will be such http://www.recaro.com/index.php?id=5810&region=3&L=2...

the bucket seat seems large enough

seatwith1.jpg


and the weight is only 10kg/22lb (good solution when you have PS3 and PC in different rooms, like me)

+ no steering bar between legs
+ strong steering bar support (two wide tubes)
+ good looking
+ everything is adjustable (even the wheel angle, the pedal angle and the seat angle???)


Here in Europe, Playseat costs 349EUR+49EUR(shifter adapter)=398EUR
Price of Rhinoseat ... 269EUR is much, much less then 398EUR

We will see the final product...

Well if you look closely its made of the same materials as a lounge chair and a lounge chair that would be of similar materials and contruction, meaning the amount of work involved to put one together would not cost that much. It would be somewhere around $60 dollars. Sorry if its a little insulting but here's an example. But if they do put a "REAL" Recaro seat then it would cost over $1,000.00 just for the seat. You are maybe talking of some knock off seat from China.

Sample lounge chair one.

Here is a closer example no. 2

Opps! sorry for the double post.
 
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Well if you look closely its made of the same materials as a lounge chair and a lounge chair that would be of similar materials and contruction, meaning the amount of work involved to put one together would not cost that much.

Well if you look closely its made of the same materials as a airplane or a race car and a airplane or a race car that would be of similar materials and contruction (of course, more expensive duraluminium)...
Sorry if its a little insulting but here's an example (see attachment)


Why aluminium?

1. Obvious that larger pipes look better (Old Rinoseat was made of thin, ugly steel pipes)
2. The possibility of moving the cockpit in a house or flat (attempt to move the fridge out of the room to another room)
3. Rinoseat product is sold via the Internet and the weight is very important for the cost of transport

transport cost in EU for 10kg is 30EUR
transport cost in EU for 40kg is 150EUR
maximum weight for regular mail (national post) is between 20kg and 30kg


Aluminum tubes are very difficult to bend, and the welding is very expensive and demanding (TIG welding ... I am an engineer, so I know something about it)


But if they do put a "REAL" Recaro seat then it would cost over $1,000.00 just for the seat. You are maybe talking of some knock off seat from China.

I repeat my previous post
Frame has handles for wheel, pedal and shifter (all you can adjust) and seat will be a true copy of the RECARO racing seat, as it is written.
...final seat will be such http://www.recaro.com/index.php?id=5810&region=3&L=2...


Obviously, will look like RECARO racing seat, but much more comfortable, because it uses elastic straps (see attachment). Fiberglass is pretty tough.

For bucket seats is also very important seat size. See last picture in attachment.
It is a standard bucket seat http://www.ompracing.it/detail.html?productcode=HA/741 with the child in him.
I do not fit into it.

I personally do not need a certificate 'FIA approved/homologated' for a game seat. For me it is enough to look nice and be comfortable.

Moreover, as we see in the picture, in the Rinoseat cockpit, the bucket seat can be disassemble.
I have never seen anything like it.


P.S. This conversation is becoming ridiculous. If you say that this cockpit looks like a lounge chair, no problem.

As an engineer, I think that is remarkable (aesthetically and structurally).
 

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P.S. This conversation is becoming ridiculous. If you say that this cockpit looks like a lounge chair, no problem.

As an engineer, I think that is remarkable (aesthetically and structurally).

It's okay this is a forum so everybody is entitled to their opinion. You can always prove us wrong when the final product is out and given reviews by people who have actually bought the product. :)
 
It's okay this is a forum so everybody is entitled to their opinion. You can always prove us wrong when the final product is out and given reviews by people who have actually bought the product. :)

Absolutely correct !!!


As i already said ... We will see the final product ... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3769607&postcount=36

and this also ... good source for ideas ... https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3766241&postcount=10



P.S. gtplanet is a great site and honor for me to be able to participate in the debate with a lot of creative people from around the world, especially with very active moderators 👍 :cheers:
 
It sure looks the business, that's for sure. Easily the most aesthetically pleasing wooden cockpit out there, bar none. 👍


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Brilliant work! 👍 I can imagine people would buy these. :)
Kudos to 96330 excelent wood work! my friend. But even for just effects a nice sporty cushion with some racing colors or even you logo on it would add a lot. Give it some brand identity. Just my .02 cents. Still by far an excelent design. I would say if Chilicokes steel frame rig is tops right now yours would be tops in the woodframe class. :bowdown:

Thanks guys, really appreciate the comments :)

I have thought about applying my logo with a custom made branding iron but at the moment they are a bit too expensive even for the smaller ones I wanted, wouldn't even be able to afford it from selling two of my units :indiff: and decals just don't do justice for wooden furniture not to mention they don't stick well to varnished surfaces..

Anyways both the wheel stand and the chair are just prototypes as I plan to outfit the production versions with more features like shifter mounts for the chair as well as the ability to use it as a normal upright chair (with height and tilt adjust etc) and maybe even a cup holder :lol:
 
Anyways both the wheel stand and the chair are just prototypes as I plan to outfit the production versions with more features like shifter mounts for the chair as well as the ability to use it as a normal upright chair (with height and tilt adjust etc) and maybe even a cup holder :lol:

I would definitely consider one of your setups when you get around to selling them. Shifter Mounts would add the final touch.



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Thanks guys, really appreciate the comments :)
I have thought about applying my logo with a custom made branding iron but at the moment they are a bit too expensive even for the smaller ones I wanted, wouldn't even be able to afford it from selling two of my units :indiff: and decals just don't do justice for wooden furniture not to mention they don't stick well to varnished surfaces.

Very very impressive cockpit, love the simplicity. 👍

Have you thought about apply your logo by silk-screening? Relatively easy to do and can be done with simple household parts/tools. 👍
 
I would definitely consider one of your setups when you get around to selling them. Shifter Mounts would add the final touch.


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That's encouraging to hear ;)
Although I don't expect to be ready for business in the short term, I'm positive everything will be good to go well before GT5 is released in other words soonish :lol:
I still have a few other things in mind to design and prototype as to build up my catalogue of products :)

Very very impressive cockpit, love the simplicity. 👍

Have you thought about apply your logo by silk-screening? Relatively easy to do and can be done with simple household parts/tools. 👍

Cheers mate! Thanks for the tip too by the way, will look into screen printing and also rubber stamping as alternatives 💡
 
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Here is one worth a mention but I don't know who built it. I just found it in another thread posted by someone else too. Very simple straight forward design.
 
...ill scoot in a few pics of my new DIY.

Trying to follow Bob Earl's design. I've got the frame so far. Didn't have a tube bender so i went with the aluminum. It's adjustable btw (Both axis, just need to weld the panel). It's also very light than it looks. Can carry it with 2 fingers :) About 50% complete.

Just need to attach the seat and weld a panel to hold the 3 pedals. Will update by Saturday :D

Total Cost so far: $0

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BTW, that's a garage floor carpet so its a bit dirty :D

DIY FTW!!!


Inspiration:
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here is one of my homemade cockpits. the frame is made from 8020 and the seat is custom molded out of 2-part polyurethane foam.

Seat height, tilt and slide is adjustable. Wheel height, tilt, slide is adjustable. Pedal tilt and slide is adjustable. g25 shifter height, slide is adjustable. Monitor height is adjustable. Keyboard tray, mouse tray rotate and height is adjustable.

Hope you like it!
 

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