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My R34 is a understeer pig
Everyday is hatchback day for me.Guess it's hatchback day at RKM.
Leo from Mad Finn tuned up my Pug for me, and I should get it today. Smells like a shootout may be in the works...
The Kusabi is going to destroy everything if you keep the racing tyres on it. Although I'm sure you've already realised that and decided to run sports soft tyres. I'm not too familiar with the differences between the Swift's so I'm looking forward to that. :tup:Here's the list for my RKM hatchback shootout:
Civic VTi-R
Civic Type R
Roj's Golf
Kusabi Evil C
R32 Golf-R
C4 VTS
147 RS
March Super Turbo
Swiftly Done (both 2005 and 2007 models, as they are a little different)
Yari Yari
Oh go on then. I'm chooching through these requests so I'm clear now.@ZoidFile: Holy review, batman! That's worth a tune but sadly I'll have to make Roj do it with my PS3 being down and all.
Also, most musclecars either have 3-speed automatics or 4-speed manuals. 4-speed autoboxes didn't become common until the mid-late 80s.
I totally forgot you requested one. Have fun with it and if Loeb wants his spoiler back, punch him.Thank you, thank you and thank you..!! I'm properly looking forward to driving this car. Glad you guys cast your magic over it, and sorry for making you tinker with such an ugly creature
{Cy}
I wanted to keep it's Alfa-ness so I tuned it to go faster but retain it's Alfa-ness, which seems to have worked after looking at that 4 second improvement.Alfa 147 RS review:
Before:
I remember Jeremy Clarkson once said in a Alfa 147 GTA review that 'its Alfa-ness can't make up for its rubbish-ness.' And now I know what he means. This 147 ti has nearly as much power as the GTA and is, if I'm honest, rubbish. There is just far too much power for the tyres to cope, the understeer is horrendous, especially if you dive into a turn aggressively and well, it's just not that fast. It did a lap of 1:26.075, which isn't bad, but nothing to shout about either.
After:
Now, this is more like it. A stylish Italian hot hatch that doesn't smoke all that power away and can actually be serious. There is still understeer, a lot of it in fact, and it still doesn't feel that quick for 230hp. It could do with a turbo to help it along, but that somehow feels wrong to do so. But this thing is like the Evo IX in 1 respect, it will maintain the same feel of the car so it doesn't feel like it's changed, but will let the laptimes do the talking. It did a 1:22.415, nearly 4 seconds quicker than stock. And it's also quite fun, although it doesn't feel quick, it seems eager in the turns, ready to play. If you kick the throttle on the downshifts, it'll treat you to the wonderful noise of a engine revved to its 8300rpm redline and the visual flare of all 230 horses spitting flame out the exhaust. I rather like it. It doesn't seem to be too serious when you play, it won't punish you for being an idiot. But when your opponents finally do catch up, it will leave them for dead in the corners.
It's hard to sum this car and tune up, because the logical part of me wants to say that this is rubbish. But the bits of me that actually think up of and write this review say that this is in fact, the best FF car out of the lot. Sure it may be a bit mad and not that fast in a straight line, but for some reason I like it. Before, it feels like it wants to play, and also has an intangible feeling of specialness, but was just a bit lackluster to drive. Now, the tune has rectified that issue, but still maintains this cars special feeling.
Laptimes:
1:26.075(before)
1:22.415(after)
Later on, I'll be trying to prove Roj's claim wrong and try to beat the 147 around the track in a 300hp Focus ST (my substitute for the Focus RS)
Before or after our settings?My R34 is a understeer pig
Oops.I was going to start out with my own tuner garage soon and one of my opening tunes was going to be the C4. Great timing with that tune, I must say...
I have been defeated! At least I can say that with only 70 less bhp, the 147 is only 2 seconds slower than a tuned ST. Thanks for that. 👍Alfa 147 RS vs Focus ST:
(Tested on TGTT)
Alfa 147 RS:
227hp
1060kg
Laptime: 1:22.985
Thoughts: It seems to change itself in some aspects every time I drive it. Before, it spat flames everywhere and was a lot of fun, albeit not that fast. Now I put it up against some competition, its gotten serious, and it's not my style changing. It now grips well, goes quite well and is, in general, more grown up than my first drive in it. Still haven't figured out how it could change its character so dramatically in such a short space of time, though. Must be an Italian thing. It's become more progressive, and this is reflected in the laptimes. On a 5 lap time trial, the 147's times steadily fall from 1:24.863 to its fastest 1:22.985 without any mistakes. It's easier now, but I'm not sure about my next drive though, hopefully it keeps this character. Anyway, now the benchmark is set, bring on the Focus!
Focus ST:
297hp
1432kg (aprox. since I can't check as I am not with my PS3)
Laptime: 1:20.458
Thoughts: Well, I suspect you might be thinking that my next sentence is going to be somewhere along the lines of 'Hah, you see Roj, I knew the 147 couldn't beat a 300hp Focus RS (or ST, whatever you want to call it)!!!' But I'm not going to, for 1 reason. It wasn't fair on the 147, as I just realised that the engine tuning is only at its first stage. As things stand, the Focus ST/RS is a good 2 seconds ahead of the 147. But don't worry, the 147 will be back, and next time, it's gonna pack even more punch.
I totally forgot you requested one. Have fun with it and if Loeb wants his spoiler back, punch him.
Ah I see. Glasgow kiss eh? Sounds kinky.Request is a polite way of putting it, I veritably bullied our Rotary Junkie into looking at it. I'd used the C30 build on it, and it was quick. Kyle sent me off to get some laptimes and prove, under the restrictions me and my buds were racing Hot Hatches, that the C4 was quick enough to warrant looking at.
Thanks again, I'll take the Ugly Baby out for a spin tonight and report back afterwards...
{Cy}
PS If I see that Loeb bloke near the back of my car, I'll give him a Glasgow Kiss and tell him the RKM guys say Hi..!!
That's the spirit! Could it be a Brera?Ok, the 147 may have lost, but I'm not gonna let the Essex boy in his 'look-at-me!!!' Focus be smug for so long. There will be a rematch tomorrow, and by tomorrow the 147 RS will have more power, thanks to the stage 3 engine tuning, and will be joined by one of its relatives in a 3 car shootout (no, the 3rd car isn't a 8C, and nor is it on any of your tune lists).
If I have time, I'll do the Supra shootout again, to give the YellowHat a second chance, as, like I said, I wasn't quite awake as I should be.
If the Focus does get beaten, how about you do it some justice by tuning it? (obviously when you have the time)
The Kusabi is going to destroy everything if you keep the racing tyres on it. Although I'm sure you've already realised that and decided to run sports soft tyres. I'm not too familiar with the differences between the Swift's so I'm looking forward to that. :tup:
Yeah, I've been debating that, and I might as well make it a 12 car shootout, and run the Kusabi on both sets of tires, SS tires so it's competitive with the others, and the RS tires to give a fair review of the tune as intended. The newer Swift starts with a little more HP, still haven't run them hard on the track yet to see if there's any handling differences after the tune.
Onboy123Just wanna make sure my history is right, did Honda kill off the Type R badge or just the Civic Type R?
I have decided to reveiw the R34,IX and the LFA Around Trail Mountain
First the R34 This car tested around the ring and trial moutain it has awesome stability and it has very good grip and it is a rocket although I had to change the brake settings. Overall it is eery thng that you said It can keep up with a Amuse S2000 Gt1. Lap time 1:36.618
Second the IX This Car is A Grip Monster this is very fast flat out through corners It has some body roll but is stable could of shorten the gears for acceleration this can keep up with an SLS and cars likewise in peformance Lap time 1:38.000
Now For the LFA I think I have found a new drift car. Just kidding I just have to maintain throttle control but I still have to master that As to my skills I have not completed the lap
Evo IX or Evo X??
Just Can't decide
Thanks for the shootout and sort of proving my claim right. I like how a 147 RS vs Focus RS match turned into a 147 GTA vs Focus ST one. There's a standard Focus RS in the UCD so if you ever find one, you could redo the original test if you want. 👍 That said, how does the GTA behave with the RS settings? Similar to a boosted RS?Right 3 reviews today, and I have 6 lined up. I'll tell you about them later, because first, I need to settle some unfinished business.
Alfa 147 RS vs Focus ST vs Alfa ------
Tested on TGTT
If you remember, Roj's claims for this 147 to beat a Focus RS rather fell short when it was crushed by a 300hp Focus ST. Well, that was due to the fact that the engine upgrades hasn't been done. So now that it's ready, it's time to wipe that smug smile off that Ford.
Focus ST:
297hp
1430kg
laptime: 1:20.045
Thoughts: very understeery, not that quick, looks like a van painted in an eye-searingly bright orange. Oh and also quite hard to drive. Honestly, the 147 maybe 2 seconds slower, but it's just so much better than this. Anyways I'm not reviewing this car, it's just here to see if the 147 can match its claims. Time to find out...
Alfa 147 RS
240hp (318hp w/ turbo)
1060kg
Laptime: 1:22.115
Thoughts: Well, it's not as fast, and by a lot. nearly 2 seconds, all because the car corners weirdly, like it doesn't want to work today. I guess it must be yet another Italian influence. Still, this isn't the end. As I said, there are 3 cars that will take part, and now the 147 RS can't beat the ST, it'll be left to its relative to take revenge. So, please welcome, the Alfa 147 GTA.
Alfa 147 GTA (tune transferred from 147 RS)
318hp
1132kg
laptime: 1:19.798
Thoughts: OH YEA, WHO'S THE DADDY NOW!!! Take that, you bright orange shopping trolley!! But really, it's nothing to celebrate about, because despite being faster, there isn't much difference. Well, ok 0.2 of a second per lap is going to make a difference in a long race, but on a 1 lap battle, it's not that big a deal. Still, the 147 won, so Essex boy and his Focus Sanitary Towel can screw off, and shut up.
Thanks for the reviews. Although I dont think I can accept it for a request. I have to tighten up because of my work load doubling thanks to RJ's PS3 dying. If you'd like to expand on this review then I'd be happy to take it. 👍I have decided to reveiw the R34,IX and the LFA Around Trail Mountain
First the R34 This car tested around the ring and trial moutain it has awesome stability and it has very good grip and it is a rocket although I had to change the brake settings. Overall it is eery thng that you said It can keep up with a Amuse S2000 Gt1. Lap time 1:36.618
Second the IX This Car is A Grip Monster this is very fast flat out through corners It has some body roll but is stable could of shorten the gears for acceleration this can keep up with an SLS and cars likewise in peformance Lap time 1:38.000
Now For the LFA I think I have found a new drift car. Just kidding I just have to maintain throttle control but I still have to master that As to my skills I have not completed the lap
GTP Name:Yellomello
PSN Name: Yellomello88
Your Car: 69 Camaro RM
Sending Your Own Car? Yes
Tuning Request: For Racing with racing hards
Was this my R32 or one you have built yourself?Golf R32 vs GTR R32
GTR R32
474hp
1245kg
Laptime:1:14.592
Thoughts: Wow. It's been so long since I last drove this car, and I can't think why. Because this is a good car, more than that, it's a fun car too. So why don't I drive it anymore? Well, because it's far too big for big for racing, I mean it takes up 1/3 of the TV screen for god sakes. That, and also because it feels, looks and goes like a touring car. Which is why I don't use it. Everytime I take it out, everyone runs. And they ought to. Run and hide, Golf, the GTR's out to get you.
Golf R32
401hp
1216kg
Laptime: 1:15.382
Thoughts: Well, it didn't beat the GTR. But then was it that surprising? The golf has 73hp less, and the Golf doesn't have much tech other than a 4WD system to keep it on the road. So that just shows the difference between stats on paper and on the track. Still, given the choice of both, I somehow always find myself selecting the German R32. So the Godzilla may have won the race, But the Golf has won my heart. I really do like it.
Hopefully the Golf will do better in the next review, R32 vs GTI RM.
Evo IX or Evo X??
Just Can't decide
Why not both? RJ and Roj will definitely be happy with a unique comparo.