Photo'chop' is not Photography

LoudMusic

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #1

In a certain other thread I began to reply and realized I should make this a more general topic so that

A) It would be recognized hopefully by more people.
B) And of course stand on its own.
C) I like to start my own threads. It makes me feel like a big person.

Same rules as the photography contest, except you have to photochop an image you took to meet a certain subject.

Should be cool.

Subject: Take a picture of a car, that's standing still.
Objective: Make it look like it's moving. Accentuate on moving, make sure to add every little detail you can to represent speed and the like.

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Ok, forgive me, but how is this any different from a "Photochop" ? It doesn't matter if you're manipulating the car in the picture or the air around the car. You're still manipulating the picture.

The car isn't photography. What you do to it isn't photography. Photography is taking pictures. And taking pictures isn't the point of this 'competition'. The point is to change the picture.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=photography
1. The art or process of producing images of objects on photosensitive surfaces.
2. The art, practice, or occupation of taking and printing photographs.
3. A body of photographs.

What you're doing is something known as photo-manipulation - Which actually pays quite well, and can also be lots of fun. But it isn't photography. Photographers are offended when the two are confused.

I am offended. I believe you need to change your topic title or sub-forum choice.

See also: manipulate

Photography is a pure art form. PLEASE try to keep it that way. It is the uneducated who are destroying that which so many people hold sacred, in all forms and walks of life, stretching beyond this simple topic into everything that humans do as a passion.

 

Burnout

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #2

A member requested something. I simply did what he requested.

Him, getting the idea from photoz.com, got me to think it's be cool. So I put it up.

Why is that such a problem?

Why does it even matter so much where it is?

Goodness.

 

VIPFREAK

(Banned)

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #3

My dictionary says something different? Here

 

LoudMusic

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #4

Yeah, I blew up about it, and I'm sorry. But I stand by my words.

Photography is a pure art form. PLEASE try to keep it that way. It is the uneducated who are destroying that which so many people hold sacred, in all forms and walks of life, stretching beyond this simple topic into everything that humans do as a passion.

If consistancy isn't maintained it becomes owned by people who do not understand. And the people who created the passion are left empty and wondering where all these people came from who are destroying their artform. By creating a competition to modify photography, even if it belongs to the photographer, and labeling the outcome as "photography" belittles that which actually IS photography and the photographers who create it. Don't deny us our purity.

It's like ... the media and how they handle "video game violence". Kids who play video games are frowned upon because some of them go ape-**** and shoot up their schools. So the rest of us are punished because the uneducated media tarnished the image of the "video gamer", when in actuallity the kids who were bad eggs would have been bad eggs whether or not they had video games.

By lumping it all together you lessen the quality of the individual passions.

Perhaps my over-explination is just too much. I should have just asked you to move the thread.

 

LoudMusic

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #5

VipFREAK

My dictionary says something different? Here

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I don't get what you're getting at. I defined photography. And actually I would define photo-chop the same as Urban Dictionary. So I'm not sure what you're saying.

 

VIPFREAK

(Banned)

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #6

Just being funny... but you are kinda making a big deal about something that doesn't really need to.

 

LoudMusic

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #7

Yeah, like I said, I should have just asked him to move the thread. But you know what, this is kind of important to me. So I made a thread about it (:

 

CDailey

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #8

Why don't we just call it the Photo Manipulation contest?

 

LoudMusic

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #9

Because that's what "photo-chop" is. There's a whole sub-forum for that.

 

Burnout

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #10

LoudMusic

If consistancy isn't maintained it becomes owned by people who do not understand. And the people who created the passion are left empty and wondering where all these people came from who are destroying their artform. By creating a competition to modify photography, even if it belongs to the photographer, and labeling the outcome as "photography" belittles that which actually IS photography and the photographers who create it. Don't deny us our purity.

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But we're not editing the image, we're adding effects.

You go to a concert, and there are lights. You're going for the music, but the lights add something. However, the lights don't destroy the music.

However, if it is that big of a deal we could just move it. I don't see the problem with it though. Either way, I'm cool.

 

LoudMusic

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• Oct 4, 2004

• #11

Burnout

But we're not editing the image, we're adding effects.

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Adding effects IS editing the image. That's how it works.

You go to a concert, and there are lights. You're going for the music, but the lights add something. However, the lights don't destroy the music.

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Inaccurate analogy. You're not modifying the music by adding lights, as you are modifying a picture by adding effects. You need to stay in the same sensory area. If you want to compare the two you would have to say "you're not modifying the music by adding an effects box (POD, RAT, etc ...) to the guitar loop, which is not factual. A proper comparison for your analogy would be to say that I am not modifying my picture by adding background music.

However, if it is that big of a deal we could just move it. I don't see the problem with it though. Either way, I'm cool.

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I would appreciate it if the thread would be moved. Thank you.

Sorry to blow it all out of proportion. I appologize.