GT5 Colour Database [Complete!]

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First, thanks for the work, SlipZtrEm. Much appreciated.

And now a quick question (I feel I know the answer, but whatever) If the game gave me a daily paint chip, lets call it "Malham White" is there any way for me to know which Aston Martin model it came from? (4 options are listed in your database.
 
For colours like that... no, not normally. However, I've tested the Astons quite extensively, and yes, the colours shared between models are always the same (Malham, Grasmere, etc).

Odd ones are things like Rosso Alfa since there's a few small differences; I've found 3, so far, but only two slightly different on-body colours (the third variation has a different colour chip in the menu, if that makes sense). Makes that have some old cars and then new models with the same vague name (Chevy and "Black") also might have a tiny difference between them. The other big ones are Toyota's vague names.

For 95% of the same-name chips available on multiple cars in the game, it's not strictly necessary to know which exact model it came from. And unfortunately, unless you own a copy of each of the, let's say, Blue Mica Metallics available from Toyota, you can't be 100% sure which version you've got with your login bonus. This is more or less to aid traders, and for some of us to keep track of what we're on the lookout for, or have stock of in our different accounts (I keep my secondary more or less as a paint-supply shop, now ;) ).

Messiah - What do you mean, exactly? For thoroughness, I've listed every chip in the game, so that people know all the ways to hunt down a particular colour if they are looking for it. For the Ferraris, I believe if you buy two models with the same paint job, the game will count them as different, but try previewing them in the paint shop and you'll see they're the same. The main goal actually was to track down which paints could only be obtained through the login bonuses and 1000 tickets... but update 1.06 finally fixed the UCD and made multiple colours available :).

Personally, I tend to keep track of my paint chips just by selecting the most direct route. Say, for Mazda's Brilliant Black, my stock is all recorded under the Roadster RS (NC) '07, because it is the cheapest of the most readily-available ways of grabbing more.
 
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For colours like that... no, not normally. However, I've tested the Astons quite extensively, and yes, the colours shared between models are always the same (Malham, Grasmere, etc).

Odd ones are things like Rosso Alfa since there's a few small differences; I've found 3, so far, but only two slightly different on-body colours (the third variation has a different colour chip in the menu, if that makes sense). Makes that have some old cars and then new models with the same vague name (Chevy and "Black") also might have a tiny difference between them. The other big ones are Toyota's vague names.

For 95% of the same-name chips available on multiple cars in the game, it's not strictly necessary to know which exact model it came from. And unfortunately, unless you own a copy of each of the, let's say, Blue Mica Metallics available from Toyota, you can't be 100% sure which version you've got with your login bonus. This is more or less to aid traders, and for some of us to keep track of what we're on the lookout for, or have stock of in our different accounts (I keep my secondary more or less as a paint-supply shop, now ;) ).

Messiah - What do you mean, exactly? For thoroughness, I've listed every chip in the game, so that people know all the ways to hunt down a particular colour if they are looking for it. For the Ferraris, I believe if you buy two models with the same paint job, the game will count them as different, but try previewing them in the paint shop and you'll see they're the same. The main goal actually was to track down which paints could only be obtained through the login bonuses and 1000 tickets... but update 1.06 finally fixed the UCD and made multiple colours available :).

Personally, I tend to keep track of my paint chips just by selecting the most direct route. Say, for Mazda's Brilliant Black, my stock is all recorded under the Roadster RS (NC) '07, because it is the cheapest of the most readily-available ways of grabbing more.

Sorry mate - I must have misunderstood - I thought the list was supposed to be unique paints - ie, each chip appears only once but may have multiple cars listed against it.

I had been collating my own list but to be honest I'm not sure about the best way to go about it and maintain accuracy with regards to multiple cars having the same chips. So far I've concentrating on my list of cars and then adding on all colour variations (I've got all cars but I want all cars with 0 miles now :crazy:)

your list is going to be a valuable resource - hope I can add to it.
 
This is a great resource, thanks SlipZtrEm and all those who have contributed.

One important thing that you might want to change is the following:

GT5 Colour Database
(Order Of Availability)

Because GT5 has a once-only policy for prize cars, and the delivery ticket shows up with the colour coded in, prizes are hard to manipulate for a specific colour (unless you want to save pre-race, and keep reloading until you get what you want). However, single-colour cars means its a guarantee, so at least you've got that...

You do not have to save before a race in order to keep trying for a specific color for a prize car.

After you win the race that will award you a prize car that can come in different colors, to get the color you want all you need to do is NOT go back to the GT Mode main menu, and instead just click on the exit button from the race menu and let it automatically save your game and then quit the game. Now backup your game save and restart the game.

Once you go to the GT Mode main menu you'll be given the redemption ticket for that prize car, and the color will be randomly selected at that point. If it is not the color you want, simply quit, restore the backed up game save and try again.

This way you don't have to keep redoing the same race each time you try to get a specific color.

I've used this technique several times to get specific colors/liveries and it's saved me a great deal of time and effort. 👍

Hope this helps!
 
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Vert Petitpre / Citroen: Shows in the google-doc version as "Unknown" type.
I have that paint (not sure if from C5 or Xsara) it is Metallic.
 
Hey SlipZtrEm I found something last night when going through your list and that is you forgot all but one color for the Toyota FT-86 Concept "09 and then today I found a Daihatsu Move SR-XX 4WD "97 with the color listed as Green Mica/Silver Metallic it was a car I got from the beginner series it is a two tone vehicle Green/Silver looking and when iI went to another account I found a Move that was a Blue/Silver listed as a Royal Blue Metallic with no mention about the silver
 
Few more errors / missings from the Google-Doc version:

You listed: Bleu Alpine / Solid / Alpine. There is also (additional) version for Metallic. (Bleu Alpine / Metallic / Alpine)

Missing color: Silver Stone / Solid / BMW

Missing (or wrong category?) In Citroen:
Gris Aluminium / Metallic / Citroen
Noir Obsidian Pe / Metallic / Citroen
Vert Petitpre / Metallic / Citroen
Vert Eau Limpide / Pearl / Citroen
 
Sorry mate - I must have misunderstood - I thought the list was supposed to be unique paints - ie, each chip appears only once but may have multiple cars listed against it.

Ideally I'd love to build something that did just that; the user selects a colour and the site/program spits out all cars from that make that can provide the chip. The problem is, as you've noticed, not all colours are created equal, even from the same make. The only way to be absolutely sure would be to quite obsessively have a copy of every colour of every car in the game, and compare all the chips. So I think of this as more of a helpful guide than an exact science, sadly, at this point. Thanks for helping, though!

One important thing that you might want to change is the following:

This is incredibly handy; good to know for if I ever decide to play through again :D. I guess it's only very handy for expensive multi-colour prizes or the Academy cars, really, but still, awesome :cheers:

Hey SlipZtrEm I found something last night when going through your list and that is you forgot all but one color for the Toyota FT-86 Concept "09 and then today I found a Daihatsu Move SR-XX 4WD "97 with the color listed as Green Mica/Silver Metallic it was a car I got from the beginner series it is a two tone vehicle Green/Silver looking and when iI went to another account I found a Move that was a Blue/Silver listed as a Royal Blue Metallic with no mention about the silver

Didn't forget them; the list only covers paint chips, not all colours entirely in the game. I felt for the purpose of documentation, it wasn't of much use to list colours that can't be used on anything else :).

Does anyone know the cheapest Premium car that has plain "Black"?

Soooo does this database show what colors are on which cars? or just a list of the colors and that's it?

...did you try opening it before asking that second (and third) question?

The easiest way to find the cheapest Premium "Black" (though they might all be slightly different from one another) is to sort by Name, then by New. Scrolling down to results of Black/Yes shows about a dozen cars. I don't have prices on-hand, but it looks to be the Camaro SS.

Database News: Both the Excel file and the Google Docs versions have been updated; I haven't touched the Database much during this downtime, which is pretty much expected.
 
I tried opening the document but it seems it's corrupted. Tried yesterday on computer and today on my macbook, doesn't work on either... Help?
 
It seems to a be a problem with ZIP'd files; I assume winRAR is causing a small issue.

Next time I'm home, I'll look into putting the actual Excel file up on a hosting site - it's too big for GTP's attachments, sadly.
 
2. This is an odd bug that's been present since Day 1. The game will see two of the same paint as two different ones if you've received them from another account. But, oddly enough, if you send both of them to someone, like you said, they'll appear as the same colour, since they're both "Matte Orange" from another account. The list is instances of the chips available to a solo player with no outside influences (PSN friends). That is nothing more than an annoying problem with sorting.

Hey, great thread here SlipZtrEm... extremely useful! 👍

I have a question:-
I'm getting to the point where I have so many paints it takes some time for the list to appear and want to try to limit the paints to one stack per colour. Does anyone have an idea how to tell which stack is the one that originates from the account and which is the stack of gifted paints?

Sorry if this is not the right place to ask this question, but it does seem that the most prolific paint collectors are here and would probably know how to deal with the problem. :)

Cheers,

Maff
 
Maffski - There's no easy way to condense paints to one stack per colour - you could order by Date Acquired, and then buy another copy of the paint, noting where the old stack was that has now moved to the top of the list... and then using up the other one. But as you can imagine, that'd be incredibly time-consuming.

The paint system needs a few fixes. I've found a few small errors within the database thanks to some users, so I'll be updating in a day or so. If anybody has those 3 remaining Unknown Category paints, I'd love to know what those are :)
 
Thanks for your reply, I feared as much. Hopefully they can do something with an update... :)

Keep up the good work 👍

Oh... while you're updating, I couldn't find the Dodge Banana Cream colour in the new car dealership, only the Banana colour. Am I losing my mind?
 
The paint system needs a few fixes.

Amen!

They can start by getting rid of all paint chips with the possible exceptions of "Special" non-manufacturer paint chips - as these can be a fun thing to "collect", and as there are not that many of them, it wouldn't be a big deal regarding managing a large inventory.

Instead, like in the real life, all we should have to do is go to the GT Auto paint shop, and for a price, be able to paint them any we like.

Heck, the game currently doesn't even identify what paint chips are stock options for each model. All it will tell you is what manufacturer the paint chip is from.... thus making it very hard to try and keep our cars "stock" without having to refer to a 3rd party list of stock paint chips.

Not only that, but most paint shops these days, not only let you know what paint options were stock for your model, but use basic 3D modeling software to show exactly what your car will look like if painted with whatever paint option you might be interested in.... Not some generic scaled down pinewood derby looking thing like in the game. 👎

Instead, not only do we have a paint system that would require thousands of paint chips just to have one of each type, but we have a paint system with a broken inventory list due to the fact that it not only doesn't combine gifted paint chips with the same paint chips acquired by the player, as well as the fact that it does not properly sort paint chips by hue.

All of which make finding paint chips an unnecessarily inconvenient and timely task. 👎

If it were up to me, I'd make it that the only paint chips that are collected, are the special paint chips. Everything else is available in the GT Auto Paint Shop for a price, and when you go there, it will first show you a list of all the pain options that are stock for the car you are using, but also have the option to use any paint variation from all the other cars as well. If you want to use one of your "special" paint chips, you'll have that option as well.

In addition, whenever selecting a paint option, it would show you exactly what your car would look like when painted - at full scale as well.

There are a lot of things I really like about GT5... the whole paint chip system is definitely not one of them!
 
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Few errors / missing: (Google Docs version)

Missing:
  • Ford > Solid > Speed Yellow Clearcoat

Wrong category (could be another version?):
  • Dodge > Banana > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Ferrari > Gr. Argento > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Ferrari > Verde Medio > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Ferrari > Rubino Micalizzato > Pearl instead of Metallic
  • Isuzu > Cannon > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Jensen > Mustard > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Lexus > Starlight Black > Solid instead of Metallic

Once again, Thanks for all your work.
 
Just few more:

Additional version:
  • Suzuki > Pearl > Superior White (listed only as Solid)
  • Toyota > Pearl > Blue Mica Metallic (listed only as Metallic)

Wrong category (could be another version?):
  • Lotus > Starlight Black > Solid instead of Metallic
  • Mercedes-Benz > Graphitgrau > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Mercury > Fawn > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Mercury > Lime Frost > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Mitsubishi > Serbia Black > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Nissan > Black Pearl (M) > Pearl instead of Metallic
  • Nissan > Merlot > Pearl instead of Solid
  • Opel > Moonlandgrau > Solid instead of Metallic
  • Opel > Delphingrau > Solid instead of Pearl
  • Toyota > Medium Gray Metallic > Metallic instead of Solid
  • Toyota > Grayish Green Mica Metallic > Pearl instead of Metallic
 
I noticed that the "Order of Availability" still says that you have to save pre-race if you want to keep trying to get a specific color version of a prize car, but that isn't the case.

Maybe you missed my previous post prior to the PSN outage:

This is a great resource, thanks SlipZtrEm and all those who have contributed.

One important thing that you might want to change is the following:

GT5 Colour Database
(Order Of Availability)

Because GT5 has a once-only policy for prize cars, and the delivery ticket shows up with the colour coded in, prizes are hard to manipulate for a specific colour (unless you want to save pre-race, and keep reloading until you get what you want). However, single-colour cars means its a guarantee, so at least you've got that...

You do not have to save before a race in order to keep trying for a specific color for a prize car.

After you win the race that will award you a prize car that can come in different colors, to get the color you want all you need to do is NOT go back to the GT Mode main menu, and instead just click on the exit button from the race menu and let it automatically save your game and then quit the game. Now backup your game save and restart the game.

Once you go to the GT Mode main menu you'll be given the redemption ticket for that prize car, and the color will be randomly selected at that point. If it is not the color you want, simply quit, restore the backed up game save and try again.

This way you don't have to keep redoing the same race each time you try to get a specific color.

I've used this technique several times to get specific colors/liveries and it's saved me a great deal of time and effort. 👍

Hope this helps!
 
Hmmm... seems like during a power failure, I restored the wrong copy of the file when Excel prompted me. The explanation you've provided is now in there, DN, thanks again 👍

Also, Deuce, thanks for those too, as always! I've been going through my collection slowly to see if there's any mistakes with the database too, and had ran into a handful of those, but I'm still missing a good chunk of colours :cheers:
 
Dang it! I just used a gran turismo champagne gold on the mazda autozam, now I found out the only way to get it is the furia! :grumpy:
 
Gday - I have a few updates to the 3/22/11 version

Some missing colours (that I havent seen given by Deuce!)
Quick Silver Clearcoat Metallic Metallic Ford
Rouge de Feu Metallic Renault (as well as Rouge De Feu)

Typos
Lexus - Super Silver III Metallic (3 - not 2)

Queries
Crystal Blue Metallic Metallic Nissan Skyline Coupe 350GT '03
I actually got this car in a "Crystalblue Metallic"
Im missing Crystal Blue Metallic!
So Im not sure if Ive just missed it and/or the cars got swapped (Skyline for March)

Im only around 2300 colours (400 missing from the unique list)
Let me know if you want any colours gifted (like the missing ones above)
 
A very effective new functionality has been added: The Unique Colours sheet now works as intended.

If you've been keeping track of your collection, download the new file, but make sure not to overwrite your current one. You may need to do some manual transferring of your current inventory to the new file (since a handful of colours have been modified since the last update), but as long as you were keeping track on the main sheet, the Unique Colours page will now automatically tally your totals for each colour from the main sheet.

On the third Info page, you'll see a new section for Unique Colours. This will tell you how many you have, from each account as well as overall, out of the possible 2387.

You should be able to download a copy from Google Docs itself, provided you have an account. If not - the ZIP file is still available in the first post, with this updated version (though it still might give errors to people, due to winRAR).
 
SlipZtrEm, many thanks.

However (sorry) in the Google Docs version there are few inconsistencies between sheet 1 (database) and 2 (unique) in regards to texture.

I haven't gone through the whole list (can you blame me?) and just looked at a sample from my earlier posts, so can't be sure if that's only from the last update or maybe there are earlier errors as well.

And one more suggestion, if I may. After I downloaded your file I rearrange it to be sorted Make -> Texture -> Paint name (instead of Make -> Paint name) and found it easier to navigate in relation to the game menu. That way I can look at a smaller group each time (Filtered by Make and Texture) and compare it with the database.

Regardless, stellar job 👍
Sorry I can't help with the last 3 paint chips at the moment, let me know if you need anything else.
 
I somehow have 2 "Gran Turismo Red Metallic"

I had 2 chips (both from daily gift), and then put a marketplace thread to find more Mazda Furai chips, asking for "Gran Turismo Red", someone sent me a chip and it came to me as "Gran Turismo Red Metallic" and I thought "oh, I have that". I went to the mazda chips, organized by name and sure enough there's 2 different Gran Turismo Red Metallic chips. I have no idea where I got the other ones from and its not listed on the excel sheet. :\

I just checked and they're both the exact same too.. so why didn't they allocate to the same chip count?
 
Deuce - Cheers sir, I know some of the categorization is still wrong on Unique Colours, for some reason I didn't change them as I came across fixing them in the main page. I just went through my two main accounts in-game, to see if I had any further category errors, and have fixed a few more. One thing I may change are the Amuse and Gran Turismo cars that give us chips sorted within our Honda or Nissan sets; as is (listed "Nissan (*Gran Turismo), etc), they artificially inflate the unique colours amount. I'll probably just turn them into simply Honda and Nissan, and give a warning message to people that buying or winning the Premium Amuses or GT 350Z will add to those two.

As for your suggestion about sorting by texture - I may do that, but because of the nature of the autosum feature I added to Unique Colours, it would require me to completely redo that page. For now, I'd suggest sorting your way to add, then sorting it back the original way, to avoid the counts getting all messed up. I do like it though, so when I have some time, I'll change that setup 👍

Corpsey - It's a glitch in the Matrix GT paint system. If you receive a paint colour from someone, even if you already own it, it will sort as a separate item :)
 
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