737 ACL firmware update for Fanatec CSR & CSR Elite

Went to go download 737 to try it on my Elite and low and behold it's been pulled from the download link.

Admission it's flawed?
 
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You want me to share some of your recent PMs to me to give examples of trolling...
Please just move along, nothing to see here...

I'm not about to fall for more of your trollish delights latte, go ahead, post whatever your little mind desires.
 
Ah, can't leave it alone eh.
Rings bells.

I guess some fail to see humour when it is being presented and the comment made should not be taken directly or seriously. This is twice now I'm explaining it, think what the hell you want guys.

I made some personal opinions regards the whole,firmware situation.
That was the point of the post so maybe some should of concentrated more on that than try to pick and start things.
 
only had the csr-e wheel and pedals for about 2 weeks now, so far no issues, but it does seem poor practice for people to have to scour the internet and other people for what issues the firmware actually addresses. It's been my policy on every piece of technical equipment that if it isn't broken, I don't fix it (especially regarding firmware); but if folks are having issues - how are they to know they're addressed in an update, unless you list what the update is for?

Fanatec, you should be careful with customer support matters - this isn't something hard to address - a simple ftp site with some readme files would suffice.
 
Troysloth
Still waiting to hear how 737 on the CSR Elite is working with Forza. I downloaded it, but haven't installed it yet. I have a big race tonight and don't want to change something that works right now.

I installed it today and have been experimenting with it.

It's not a dramatic change compared to 721. I've only used it on Forza 4 so far with a few cars to see if I notice anything.

The overall FFB feels a little bit stronger but not by much. The vibration effects in the wheel feel stronger....again nothing dramatic. Shock effects seem to have a bit more punch (clipping kerbs...that kinda thing) Also of note when the car understeers the wheel weight doesn't disappear. It still gets quite light but on many cars with the previous firmware the resistance of the wheel would almost be non existent in heavy understeer situations.

Some of the menu items have changed. On SPR and DPR the setting of -3 is gone has been replaced by OFF. So now the settings for those would be OFF, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3.

The behavior of the wheel when booted but not connected (menu screen on wheel displays - - - )has changed as well. With 721 if you left it as described in the paragraph before if you turned the wheel you would feel instant resistance that was uniform. Now the wheel exhibits very little resistance when you first turn the wheel and then the resistance gradually increases the more you turn it.

That's about all I've noticed so far with Forza 4. Can't speak on any other games yet as I haven't tried them.

As I mentioned earlier Thomas has chosen to pull it from the link on the first post of this thread citing that "Easter is over" so there's no "official" place to download. A little searching via Google should produce some places for you to download it as it's been uploaded in a few places on the net. I found it here:

https://rapidshare.com/files/2558344291/CSRE-737.zip

As for the CSR version I can't offer insight on it other than what I've read on other forums and by and large not many had anything positive to say about it.
 
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The overall FFB feels a little bit stronger but not by much. The vibration effects in the wheel feel stronger....again nothing dramatic. Shock effects seem to have a bit more punch (clipping kerbs...that kinda thing) Also of note when the car understeers the wheel weight doesn't disappear. It still gets quite light but on many cars with the previous firmware the resistance of the wheel would almost be non existent in heavy understeer situations.

Nice to hear! I will go straight away to update my Turbo S wheel... Oh but wait Fanatec does not support my wheel nor the GT2 anymore :(

Unrealistically light steering feel in understeer was my major problems when I posted my comparison rant to GT5 vs Forza Thread.
 
Raitziger
Unrealistically light steering feel in understeer was my major problems when I posted my comparison rant to GT5 vs Forza Thread.

It's still too light IMO but its seemingly improved slightly with 737. I don't blame the wheel myself as its a flaw with Turn 10's FFB coding as the Microsoft racing wheel users complain about it as well. It's great that you can feel right away when you're plowing in the corners but geez....don't have the wheel go essentially dead in our hands.
 
The overall FFB feels a little bit stronger but not by much. The vibration effects in the wheel feel stronger....again nothing dramatic. Shock effects seem to have a bit more punch (clipping kerbs...that kinda thing) Also of note when the car understeers the wheel weight doesn't disappear. It still gets quite light but on many cars with the previous firmware the resistance of the wheel would almost be non existent in heavy understeer situations.

Sounds like an improvement to me, but still going to wait for more info before I try it.
 
Still strange that after almost a week there is still no official firmware release on Thomas blog.
 
Oh but wait Fanatec does not support my wheel nor the GT2 anymore :(

Pardon my ignorance but "lack of support" for GT2 wheel pertains to what? Forza-related firmware updates, or firmware updates in general?

They are still selling the GT2, and many of my friends have opted to purchase this wheel over the CSR for use in F4 because they prefer it's rim over the CSRs'.
 
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HoiHman
Still strange that after almost a week there is still no official firmware release on Thomas blog.

I agree! I wonder if it really is an official release or a fake renamed old version.. However it seems to be working for quite many people..
 
I agree! I wonder if it really is an official release or a fake renamed old version.. However it seems to be working for quite many people..

It definately is a real release and improvements have been made (at least on the CSR Elite). Strange ??
 
Pardon my ignorance but "lack of support" for GT2 wheel pertains to what? Forza-related firmware updates, or firmware updates in general?

They are still selling the GT2, and many of my friends have opted to purchase this wheel over the CSR for use in F4 because they prefer it's rim over the CSRs'.

I seems like it is firmware in general because there has been many updates to CSR after last update which was available for all wheels.
 
Raitziger
I seems like it is firmware in general because there has been many updates to CSR after last update which was available for all wheels.

In regards to the CSR there hasn't been one publicly available firmware release for the that wheel except for 737 since the wheel launched with 701 installed. 706 was only available on the net thanks to people who shared it after getting it it sent to them from Fanatec support. This is the third public release for the CSR E ( 715, 721 and now 737)

There's been no new releases for the Porsche wheels since 681.....the 700 series of firmwares do not work on the Porsche wheels.
 
There's been no new releases for the Porsche wheels since 681.....

Yes there has, Fanatec Tech Support has provided both Mahnegold and I with revised firmware for the GT3 to address ongoing USB disconnect/loss of input signal issues. I do not believe it has been publicly released though.

There is a thread on ISR relating to GT3 disconnects where this is discussed in greater detail.
 
Yes....but it's nothing more than a tweaked 681 and still goes by that version number. It adds nothing new features wise or performance improvement wise other than to help with the disconnect issue on some Porsche wheels.

And as has become the routine as of late......not available to the public to download.
 
^ Agreed, thanks for clarification, I was not clear enough in my post, just wanted to state that there has been a revision, although not available to public, and just to address disconnects.
 
Guys, I was wondering about something with the wheel that was brought up a while back and I thought it was just a firmware issue. After 3 firmware updates, my CSRE Wheel still does this. I don't own this video, but my wheel does this even at 900 degree lock. Please let me know if this is the same for everyone else.

 
Guys, I was wondering about something with the wheel that was brought up a while back and I thought it was just a firmware issue. After 3 firmware updates, my CSRE Wheel still does this. I don't own this video, but my wheel does this even at 900 degree lock. Please let me know if this is the same for everyone else.

Yes, my wheel does the same, I believe it is a motor limiter that is causing this. The motor reaches the limit of turning and tries again and again to turn more but the limiter is stopping it causing this.
 
Guys, I was wondering about something with the wheel that was brought up a while back and I thought it was just a firmware issue. After 3 firmware updates, my CSRE Wheel still does this. I don't own this video, but my wheel does this even at 900 degree lock. Please let me know if this is the same for everyone else.


That's just the limit of the rotation which is set in the tuning menu.

Fanatec uses the FFB motors to limit the rotation.

What is seen in the video is perfectly normal. I've had three CSR Elites so far and the all act the same.

Don't need to worry :)
 
Seems like Fanatec still plans for firmware updates for all wheels:tup:

"Submitted by Thomas on Mon, 04/23/2012 - 05:39.

We are working on a firmware patch for the following models:

911 GT2
911 Turbo S
911 GT3 RS V2
CSR
CSR Elite
"
911wheel.de
 
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