Photo Finish Racing - 2.10 How-To Updates/Amendments

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No, I mean it's great that you got it, but I'm very intrigued by this seasonal now. I just haven't gotten on since the weekend, and that was taken up by the races.
99% chance I'll toy with it tonight.
 
Don't know if you've been keeping up with the seasonals lately, if ever, they're mostly cash/xp cows, but you may be surprised at how difficult the tsukuba race is when you get the "fast" AI grid. The rest of the races in the series were easy mode by comparison.

Ok here is the tune I ended Mt. Aso with.

Installed Parts:
Chassis Reinforcement
Fully Customizable Transmission
Clutch: Twin Plate
Flywheel: Semi-Racing
Adjustable LSD
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit

Max Power 235 Weight: 1700 Performance Points: 420
Power Level: 78.5%

Suspension: Front Rear

Ride Height: -10.0 -20.0
Spring Rate: 5.5 6.0
Dampers (Ext.): 5.0 7.0
Dampers (Comp): 5.0 4.0
Anti-Roll Bars 4.0 4.0
Camber Angle (-): 1.0 0.7
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.00

LSD:
Initial Torque: 8
Accel Sensitivity: 16
Braking Sensitivity: 8

Aerodynamics:
Downforce:

Brake Balance: 5 6
ABS: 1

Weight Adj.:
Ballast Amount: 200
Ballast Position: -2

Transmission:
First Gear: 3.574
Second Gear: 2.589
Third Gear: 2.068
Fourth Gear: 1.638
Fifth Gear: 1.282
Sixth Gear: N/A
Seventh Gear: N/A
Eighth Gear: N/A
Final Gear: 3.326
Top Speed (MPH): 112
Top Speed (KPH): 180.247

Notes:
"Trans sequence;
1. Set to Default
2. Set Top Speed to Min
3. Set Final to Max
4. Set Gear ratios
5. Set Final to indicated above"

For the first four races in the seasonals I ran higher camber front and back. Think it was 1.5/1.0 but since I wasn't keeping track while I was running these, it may have been higher and I've since forgot. I reduced it for Mt. Aso after a couple runs thinking since the corners had some severe camber perhaps my tires could use less. It seemed to work because my PB went from 1:22.xxx to 1:19.xxx on the final lap of the race I won. Car is still fairly loose under braking and acceleration but so long as I was not overzealous with either it seemed stable at sensible speeds. Took me 4 full race runs with a few crash restarts in between. Only other adjustments I made was to the final gear so I was just under the rev limiter for the longest straight for each track. For Sarthe I didn't actually test, just ran the final til the top speed indicated was 150 I think and the first long straight I would hit the rev limiter just before braking. Since I won the race first try I saw no sense in making further adjustments and went on to Mt. Aso.

Let the laughter begin. :cheers:

:dopey::crazy:
 
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So I'm wondering why you chose this car... It needs so much limiting/ballast to make this PP. So that's actually the bulk of the difficulty, because 420PP achieved through all that limiting and weight makes the car equal to a 400-410PP car at best.

Camber is more dependent on how you steer than anything. Camber increases/decreases with steering input, the harder you're turning the wheel, the more camber you can use.
 
Isuzu 4200R Concept '89 - 420PP Seasonal


Build:
Stock - Chassis Rigidity - PL to 420PP.
Depending on oil/mileage(mine started at 0.0 without oil) roughly 215-217HP/1500KG/420PP/CS


Aero:
N/A

Transmission:
Reset to Default
Set top speed to minimum
3730
2740
2100
1660
1362
Final gear 2.500

LSD:
8/16/5

Suspension:
0/10
6.0/7.0
6/5
3/5
3/4

Camber/Toe:
1.0/2.0
-0.10/+0.20

Brakes:
BB: 4/3
ABS: 1
 
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I ran the race 3 times against the wicked MX5.
Lost the third race by .434.:ouch: PB was lap 5 of race 3, 1:06.6xx. I'm sure I could get it with more practice, but it is certainly a task.:)
 
CSLACR
So I'm wondering why you chose this car... It needs so much limiting/ballast to make this PP. So that's actually the bulk of the difficulty, because 420PP achieved through all that limiting and weight makes the car equal to a 400-410PP car at best.

Camber is more dependent on how you steer than anything. Camber increases/decreases with steering input, the harder you're turning the wheel, the more camber you can use.
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It appeared more interesting than anything else in my '80s Nippon stable. Not to mention the first time I took it for a spin it rotated pretty much by thinking about it. Not a big fan of 80s cars anyway and this one didn't make me go "ho-hum". I admit that holding down the PP for it is troublesome and after every full run I was reducing the power 1 or 2 clicks to stay within PP limit, since it was a 0/0/0 car when I started this little exercise.

It's no big deal if you don't want to goof around with it. I was just getting really frustrated trying to tune the over-steer out of it, that first night I tried the seasonal, so plead for help.

CSLACR
I ran the race 3 times against the wicked MX5.
Lost the third race by .434.:ouch: PB was lap 5 of race 3, 1:06.6xx. I'm sure I could get it with more practice, but it is certainly a task.:)
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I'm sure your next race or 2 would see you puttin' a whuppin' on that MX5. I don't want to think how many times I lost the race until I hit that seasonal forum and found out you could cycle the AI until a grid popped that was easier to deal with. The MX5 is beatable with several cars for the driving deities such as yourself but for the rest of us mortals, getting a weak grid was pretty much the only way for us to win. Thanks for the tune. Will install it tomorrow and take it for a spin and see if I can better my results.
 
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Well, I think you'll find the tune above much more planted, for whatever you desire to use it for. I'm sure it could be used in the 500PP FR seasonal as well. Maybe PL it around 450PP and see how it does.
 
CSLACR
Well, I think you'll find the tune above much more planted, for whatever you desire to use it for. I'm sure it could be used in the 500PP FR seasonal as well. Maybe PL it around 450PP and see how it does.
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Ran that tt tonight with your tune on the fr-s. Used my 500pp Camaro with your tune + a minor tweak or two of my own for the Daytona tt. I do seasonals for gear and cars.

Running online series, with you and the crew from the ones I've run so far, is more than challenging enough for me.
 
Nice. That's two cars I think I asked you about now that you liked. 👍

Not to sure about the sound of the car myself, but it's better than the FR-S samples. Haven't found a car yet that makes me want to turn up the volume like that RM Camaro does.

Gonna go start the format one of my new hard drives for PC and hit the rack. Catch up tomorrow.

Road on!
 
vinze1129
Hi Dom,
Can I request for tunes with all assist off. (ABS 0)
Thx a lot
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Well, a couple people have driven my tunes without ABS by simply adjusting the BB and given good reviews. It's the easier way to do it, but I might very well start giving BB's for without ABS to go with tunes, it should certainly change some cars, you're right.

For existing tunes just adjust the BB and they should still work fine, but for new tunes coming out I'll check them out without ABS on to see what I find.

I do have an NSX R and Camaro SS on the edge of completion to try it on.
 
CSLACR
Well, a couple people have driven my tunes without ABS by simply adjusting the BB and given good reviews. It's the easier way to do it, but I might very well start giving BB's for without ABS to go with tunes, it should certainly change some cars, you're right.

For existing tunes just adjust the BB and they should still work fine, but for new tunes coming out I'll check them out without ABS on to see what I find.

I do have an NSX R and Camaro SS on the edge of completion to try it on.
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Thank you very much Dom. I appreciate all the effort you put in for us here. I will wait for the said cars to be ready and eagerly waiting to try it. Actually I speak better than texting, that's why my quotes are always very short. Lol
 
Chevrolet Camaro SS '10 - 550PP/RS
sangimignanotownsquareg.jpg


Build 1: 530/1350/550/RS
Full weight reduction - Ballast 32 @ 0
Sports ECU
Sports cat
Semi-racing muffler
Engine stage 2 - PL @ 97%

Build 2: 524/1318/550/RS
Full weight reduction
Sports ECU
Sports cat
Racing muffler
Engine stage 1 - PL @ 97.8%

Aero:
No wing

Transmission:
Reset to Default (Without any upgrades applied)
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4420
3470
2730
2190
1790
1500
Final gear as desired (2.000 is very good on most tracks)

LSD:
9/24/20

Suspension:
-5/-5
13.3/12.7
9/6
5/8
5/5

Camber/Toe:
2.0/1.0
-0.05/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 5/3
ABS: 1

Without ABS: BB: 4/2
 
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CSLACR
Chevrolet Camaro SS '10 - 550PP/RS
Image coming soon

Build 1: 530/1350/550/RS
Full weight reduction - Ballast 32 @ 0
Sports ECU
Sports cat
Semi-racing muffler
Engine stage 2 - PL @ 97%

Build 2: 524/1318/550/RS
Full weight reduction
Sports ECU
Sports cat
Racing muffler
Engine stage 1 - PL @ 97.8%

Aero:
No wing

Transmission:
Reset to Default (Without any upgrades applied)
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4420
3470
2730
2190
1790
1500
Final gear as desired (2.000 is very good on most tracks)

LSD:
9/24/20

Suspension:
-5/-5
13.3/12.7
9/6
5/8
5/5

Camber/Toe:
2.0/1.0
-0.05/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 5/3
ABS: 1

Without ABS: BB: 4/2
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Will try it out tomorrow. After trying it, I will post the feedback to you. Appreciate greatly. Thank you Dom
 
One thing, I remember testing a car and running 4/0 and liking it, so if it seems happy to lock the rears, it was probably this car.
I think it was the NSX though.(Which is finished and coming tonight)
 
Honda NSX Type-R '02
Image coming soon

Build 1: 390/1051/525/RS
No Chassis!
Full weight reduction
Sports ECU
Racing muffler
Engine stage 3 - PL @ 96.4%


Aero:
No wing

Transmission:
Reset to Default (With upgrades applied)
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4330
3240
2550
2020
1635
1380
Final gear as desired (2.000 is very good on most tracks)

LSD:
8/30/30

Suspension:
0/+5
9.0/10.5
10/4
4/10
2/3

Camber/Toe:
2.4/1.6
-0.10/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 5/3
ABS: 1

Without ABS: BB: 4/0


Build 2: 445/1051/550/RS
Full weight reduction
All parts except chassis reinforcement
PL @ 96.7%

Aero:
0/10

Transmission:


LSD:


Suspension:


Camber/Toe:


Brakes:
BB:
ABS: 1

Without ABS: BB: 4/0
 
CSLACR
Honda NSX Type-R '02
Image coming soon

Build 1: 390/1051/525/RS
No Chassis!
Full weight reduction
Sports ECU
Racing muffler
Engine stage 3 - PL @ 96.4%

Aero:
No wing

Transmission:
Reset to Default (With upgrades applied)
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4330
3240
2550
2020
1635
1380
Final gear as desired (2.000 is very good on most tracks)

LSD:
8/30/30

Suspension:
0/+5
9.0/10.5
10/4
4/10
2/3

Camber/Toe:
2.4/1.6
-0.10/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 5/3
ABS: 1

Without ABS: BB: 4/0

Build 2: 445/1051/550/RS
Full weight reduction
All parts except chassis reinforcement
PL @ 96.7%

Aero:
0/10

Transmission:

LSD:

Suspension:

Camber/Toe:

Brakes:
BB:
ABS: 1

Without ABS: BB: 4/0
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Ok, now my car is set, now going for a ride in it. ABS 0 BB 4/0. This is interesting.
 
vinze1129
Ok, now my car is set, now going for a ride in it. ABS 0 BB 4/0. This is interesting.
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Handles like a FF car. Wonderful tune for me. BB at 4/0 was perfect too for ABS 0. Under steer a bit but easy to handle. Btw I'm running on RH. Our races are limit to RH mostly.
 
vinze1129
Handles like a FF car. Wonderful tune for me. BB at 4/0 was perfect too for ABS 0. Under steer a bit but easy to handle. Btw I'm running on RH. Our races are limit to RH mostly.
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Handling seems to be better now. Getting faster too. Thank you on the BB. 4/0 never came to my mind at all. Great
 
Bro, I heard you got burnt on the X Factor the other night, for using auto tune on all your cars :mischievous:

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Sorry for spamming your place up, couldn't help myself...

{Cy}
 
CSLACR
?
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That's Demi Lovato, apparently being blasted by a member of the public for using auto tune. It amused me as she's your avatar and the whole music/car tuning thing ......... just me..?? Ok, sorry, obscure sense of humour...

{Cy}
 
Super GT's @ Suzuka


Lexus Bandai Direzza SC430
06supergt3rd_03.jpg


Aero:
35/60

Transmission:
Reset to default
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4368
3400
2685
2170
1785
1510
Set Final Gear: 2150

LSD:
8/16/5

Suspension:
-5/+5
15.8/14.8
8/7
6/7
3/3

Camber/Toe:
2.2/1.0
0.00/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 4/4
ABS: 1

Comments: Shift on shift light



Honda HSV
hondahsv010gt151024x682.jpg


Aero:
40/65

Transmission:
Reset to default
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4496
3540
2830
2300
1910
1640
Set Final Gear: 2700

LSD:
8/16/5

Suspension:
0/+5
14.8/15.8
9/7
6/9
3/3

Camber/Toe:
2.4/1.3
-0.05/+0.05

Brakes:
BB: 4/4
ABS: 1

Comments: Shift @ 9500RPM



Nissan GT-R
2008-nismo-super-gt-suzuka-1-2-finish-gtr-600x375.jpg


Aero:
40/65

Transmission:
Reset to default
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4700
3700
2940
2373
1927
1635
Set Final Gear: 2150

LSD:
8/16/5

Suspension:
-5/+5
15.8/15.8
8/8
7/7
3/3

Camber/Toe:
2.2/1.0
-0.03/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 4/4
ABS: 1

Comments: Shift on shift light



Castrol Tom's Supra
614575071_58113f5e22.jpg


Aero:
50/70

Transmission:
Set final gear to 3.247
Set top speed to 124(Min)
4700
3700
2940
2373
1927
1635
Set Final Gear: 2150

LSD:
8/16/5

Suspension:
-5/+5
15.8/14.8
10/4
4/10
3/3

Camber/Toe:
2.2/1.0
-0.03/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 5/4
ABS: 1

Comments: Shift on shift light


Lexus SC430 - Denso/Petronas
4461729450_7f7396397c_z.jpg


Aero:
40/65

Transmission:
Set final gear to 3.300
Set TS slider to minimum
4700
3600
2820
2290
1885
1600
Set Final Gear: 2100

LSD:
8/16/5

Suspension:
-15/+5
15.1/15.1
9/6
5/8
3/3

Camber/Toe:
2.2/1.0
-0.05/-0.20

Brakes:
BB: 4/4
ABS: 1

Comments: Shift at 7250RPM


Xanavi NISMO Z
xanavi-nismo-z-gt5.jpg


Aero:
40/65

Transmission:
Reset to default
Set TS to minimum
4008
3170
2550
2080
1700
1420
Set Final Gear: 2000

LSD:
8/16/5

Suspension:
0/+10
15.7/15.8
6/9
9/6
3/3

Camber/Toe:
2.2/1.0
-0.05/0.00

Brakes:
BB: 4/4
ABS: 1

Comments: Shift at 6500RPM
 
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