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Can you edit circuits/photo travel locations?
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Sometimes it's hard to predict where your actions will lead to.
I think i wouldn't start this topic if i would predict such resonance.. Now, seeing these GTA cars being traded i feel only frustration. No, not because someone can get these cars, but because it may make PD angry. And me is the first person who blame to
Actually, i didn't many extraordinary things to discover GT5 secrets. Hacking scene already has tools to dig into at least saves for a while. And it's only matter of time when someone will do the same as me.
I hope PD will take it into good direction. We all see these secrets are very desirable by many GT5 fans. So, may be PD will open it finally. This will make second life of GT5. It's not a secret that currently GT5 is in stagnation. If you are not addicted to online races, then GT5 become boring... Only rare seasonals and trading (with all current limitations it's not so attractive, actually) keep GT5 alive. So, secrets opened officially could give some boosts to GT5 community without much effort from PD side.
Hope so...
only one not published car i've found so far is "Red Bull X2010 JP Flag Color"
Origanally i've thought it's the one X2010 used in Japanese competition, but it's not. This one looks like identical to normal X2010, but with different livery, while the one in competition has some changes in construction.
According to IDs of cars, there are many IDs skipped. For example C7 prototype has ID 1805, while amount of cars in GT5 is 1108 (if i count correct). Alas, it doesn't mean skipped IDs has cars. Probably, PD has all cars with missed ID in their lab, but i'm sure at 90% there are no files in game. Some cars have codename pointing out there is premium version of those cars or at least planned, but not released yet. For example standard version of XJR9 has suffix "_std" and later we've got premium of this car and new codename has the same codename but without _std suffix. Codenames are unique for each car, so, to distinguish between models PD has added this suffix, but standard version of this car appeared first. Some standard versions of existing premium cars appeared later. They all have _std suffix.
Another car with _std suffix without premium model is Nissan R92CP. So, at least PD has/had plans to release premium version of this car. Hint for future DLC. Alas, no other standard-only cars have such suffix. So, no more predicts.
As for rims - i have no idea. I didn't decrypt all files yet. Every car has binary chunk where all tunings, paintings, wearing, mileage and other characteristics are stored. I don't know if it's possible to hack it or not.
Another interesting thing: first DLC has many cars with "TC". Codenames of these cars have suffix "_rm". The same suffix as for "Race Modified" cars we had originally. So, basically PD just made RM version of existing cars (added wing and spoilers, livery), but for selling policy didn't named then as RM, but TC.
Many things look like all DLC had been made together with game release, just may be polished later and released to get more moneyI don't think PD works really hard on GT5 after release. May be they are spending most resources on GT6.
Some people are asking to release or provide info about hacks. It would be fun for short time, but it will definitely kill GT5 community. At least it will kill trading forum instantly because u can get all cars(even from DLC without having to pay for it) and all items. It may harm PD because of lost sales of DLC. At last it may kill motivation to reach level 40/40 and decrease game popularity. As a consequence, Sony/PD will start to ban people with hack. It may even harm people without hacks but using some glitches which should be fine right now, but will be disaster later.
That's why i'm not going to release my hacks as soon as GT5 is in full support from PD and has online/season events.
These hacks would be good to release when GT6 will be released and GT5 will be obsolete/not important for publisher. Unfortunately, GT5 is too much depend on online (even for features not depend on online originally) and may become hardly playable without ability to get many interesting cars. That time hack will be useful and reasonable.
Recently I wanted to play GT5 Prologue (GT5 is getting bored with seasonals i pass within hour), and i wanted to get Spec III. But i've found it's impossible to get it now
Amount of trading items/cars are limited on server side. You cannot bypass it unless you trick PS3 to change PSNID(should be not possible unless GT5 sends it separately, not take from PSN) and ConsoleID (i think it's possible, but didn't hear about it) with every login. You can note some delay after you press ok on send dialogue and message about trading limit.
Banned cars from trading is also comes from server side. Do you remember PD gave several days (right after introducing trade limit of cars >=1mil) when it was possible and then blocked again without any update?
Originally i thought that 1mil limit is still on PS3 side because i was able to trick PS3 to send non-tradeable cars, but it turned out there are 2 limits in action. 1mil limit is not really 1mil, but list of banned cars on server side (PD can ban any single car they want regardless 1mil limit). Additionally, PS3 has gift prohibit flags on some cars (like GT Academy, DLC) and DLC items. This PS3-side trade limit can be patched out. But keep in mind, DLC cars will appear with exclamation sign on received PS3 without DLC. You won't be able to use these cars after restart of GT5. Same as NASCAR with "fantasy" GameStop livery - you can get it from ticket 2010 and play. But after restart GT5 you won't be able to use it. GT5 with version below 2.0(i guess, lazy to check exact version) simply removes all invalid DLC/Voucher cars from garage, while after 2.0 update it just set "invalid" flag upon start. Car is still in garage and you can see it, but you can't use it.
I have limited access to car's data, so i'm not sure if there is more hidden standard cars which originally was as premium in GT5 on PS3. I need to find the list of GT5 PSP cars and then i will be able to check if standard version of those cars are currently present in PS3. Can you tell me some of PSP cars not published as standard in PS3 yet?
PS: i found GT PSP car list
X2010 5G has 20 colors! I thought it's white-only. Level 25, 8mil cr.
385BHP/8500rpm, 33kgfm/6000rpm, 802pp (not broken-in yet). Other parameters look like other X2010 models.
It doesn't look like DLC. Probably it will be released as a gift, for example as Christmas gift, or New Year's one.
GTP_CargoRat,
Less you know, better you sleep
Yes, i can load hacked save on non-hacked PS3 and go online with any car i've opened. But there is high risk to be discovered by PD and get a ban. It fully depend on PD. If there will be cheaters online then ban wave will sure follow.
So, from some point of view you are right about online. But only from some.
I don't know where are you getting information, but hacked PS3 can access PSN already around 1.5 month.
Lewis_Hamilton_,
yes, there are additional hidden tweaks:
1) 2 additional engine tunes (5 in total)
2) 2 additional turbo stages (5 in total)
3) Clutch: Triple-Plate
4) Flywheel: Racing
5) AYC Controller
6) Large Diameter Rotors + 4(6,8) Piston Calipers
7) Ceramic Carbon Brakes, Brake Balance Controller
8) Tires:
Every kind has 2 types. Like Comfort Hard (C), Comfort Hard (V).
Also, there is Sport Super Soft and Racing Super Soft tires.
so totally 22 types of tires! 8-O
9) Nitro upgrades
10) Additional power improvements (5%,10%,20%)
This is only list of features. It's not exactly implemented in game.
With so many hidden tunings, it's easy to make GT6 from GT5 already, haha
Description about C/V tires:
C:
Super-soft sports tires that can also be used for circuit driving. They have high grip even at low temperatures, but suffer from poor durability. Type C tires are designed with an emphasis on horizontal grip.
V:
Super-soft compound sports tires also suitable for race circuit driving. They boast high levels of grip even at low temperatures, but suffer from poor durability. Type V tires are designed with an emphasis on grip in the inline direction.
Both C and V types are not available. Tires we are using, have no any type. Typically it's 3rd kind
Actually, i've counted wrong. Need to add existing 9 tires to the list. So, totally it becomes 31 of types! hehe
Well, i've added Racing SS, SS(C), SS(V) tires to inventory. In game, SS has picture if i look into inventory, but SS(C) and SS(V) don't. But all of them i can put into car. If i go to car settings, i see correct tires, but there is no SS option in the middle where you can switch tires. So, if you switch to standard tires then there is no way to switch back to SS.
You need to keep car with SS
here is the picture showing what i mean:
Later i will try to drive with SS tires. This PS3 has no Steering wheel, but only game pad. I cannot use game pad to drive. Probably i need to sleep first anyway
May be i need to try other tuning parts later. At least power related tuning effect should be easily visible.
Since i've unlocked all cars in dealerships, i can easily check all possible stock colors of any car. So...
There is no Emerald Green of Camaro SS '69. 18 colors in total, and no Emerald Green among them. Only Rallye Green Metallic and Forest Green Metallic.
So, now you can relax and breath freely
It reminds me untrue info about colors of Veyron. I've cycled days till 13000+ and couldn't find some of them. Later, together with other members we concluded that some colors aren't in GT5. Now i can see we were right!
Found one secret menu in GT5. Among other things, what i found interesting is LAN battle.
Unfortunately, nothing happens if i choose this option. Screen go black, then GT logo, then come back to main menu. May be, some LAN GT5 server required...
it's possible to disable any icon on this main menu. But it kind weird because icon still remains on screen, when you click, it shows "This feature is not available in this version". Too bad.. I would like to get rid of some icons.
Also, would be good to make GT5 start directly to GT Life, but didn't find such option.
Nothing additionally appears in tuning screen regardless how many hidden upgrades i've installed to car. The only difference you can notice is higher power, lighter weight, tires name (As on screenshot i've posted) and as a result higher PP. So, that's why i didn't pst more screenshots. The only place where u can change tires is screen before race, where you can change Traction/ASM/ABS etc... So, only there you can choose installed additional tire types.
As i've told before, believe me or not - it's up to you. I won't do special effort to prove myself.
Btw, forgot to answer question about my tire tests. So here is more info (i repeat everything, because it's hard to find in over-flooded topic):
Car: Lancer Evolution Racing Car (no any additional tunings besides tires)
Track: Cape Ring (full length)
Best time: 2.30.2 shown on Racing SuperSoft (C). On Racing SOft tires i could achieve only +0.6sec.
Well, i'm not really good driver, but tried at my best
Found 2 more types of X2010 5G. One type looks exactly the same as original X2010 5G. Couldn't find any difference. Another type of X2010 5G looks exactly as X2010 S.Vettel. Same livery, same parameters, but called X2010 5G. All of them have different IDs. Weird..
Also, it looks like i've missed somehow BMW Z4 '03 from premium to standard list.
There are additional Corvette C7 in GT5 (diffenet ID from original C7). Same livery with cover, but different name. It comes as Gran Turismo tuner and name XXXXXXX. There is some flag i've found. When you enter GT Life screen, you will get message something like "Congratulations, you have been chosen to test a new car 'XXXXXXX'. blah blah blah" And then you get ticket for this car in delivery truck. Car itself is not DLC (unlike original C7). All parameters are the same.
Yesterday i've tried to find evidence of any additional configuration of RouteX. Unfortunately, didn't find anything except that single config we all know.
Sorry if new findings are not so exciting as previous.. There are fewer and fewer chances to find something i've missed before.
Well, i explored X2010 5G with S.Vettel livery more precisely. And found it as hybrid! With closer look, i found all aero parts are from X2010 5G (enlarged front wings and tail with bigger angles). But from technical characteristics it's original X2010 (1557BHP/1500rpm/979PP). I would say, it's X2010 Prototype because it has adjustable transmission unlike S.Vettel edition. So, It's hybrid from PD with livery from X2010 S.Vettel, X2010 5G wings and X2010 Prototype performance
But PD didn't tweak PP for this model as having higher ground force than original X2010.
So, most likely, in driving experience it will be exactly the same as original X2010 Prototype. Just slightly different appearance for photo mode
here is hybrid
Look at the large front wing. Also look at the tail wing's angle.
You can compare with X2010 S.Vettel you have. This car should have higher PP than X2010 S.Vettel. Should be over 1000pp, i guess. But it still have the same PP as normal S.Vettel's.
Well, it seams possible to simulate seasonal events using secret menu
The main option there is limiting opponents by selected favorite opponent cars for arcade mode. There are other options for arcade mode like setup favorite cars (regardless having them in garage), favorite tracks. You can setup PP difference for opponents based on your car's PP.
Answer for predictable question:
No, you cannot make race of F10/2007 with other cars. If you choose one of this car, then all opponents will have the same car regardless of settings.
Formula Gran Turismo looks fun after painting. Only central part painted.
no matter which version of FGT i paint, it will become the same as on picture (i mean wings, stickers and other parts not painted in chosen color).
I think, in files of GT5 every car has base livery. Other liveries/colors are just applied on top of base. So, if GT5 sees paint applied then it always chooses base color/livery and then applies custom color. That's the only explanation i can imagine.
some screens from secret menu:
He should try imageshack.
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