GTP WRS-Online : Special XI - Fujissan Mixed Class Enduro - Jan 26/27

Steward's Notes:

There are some new twists being introduced for this event:

• New start times for the events. All races are one hour earlier than previous enduros.
• The qualification deadline for LMP is on a Monday instead of a Sunday. One extra day to qualify.
• New "safe" pit road entry and exit rules. [see details post]
• New system for assigning spots on the grid in the event we have too many drivers for one lounge, but not enough for multiple lounges. Recent participation will be included in the formula to decide who gets a spot on the grid. [see details post]

Otherwise this event is using the same formula as previous incarnations:

• There is no minimum qualifying speed for the LMP class, however race stewards reserve the right to disqualify a driver if they do not consistently maintain car control and a safe pace.
• LMP and GT qualifying runs will include 2 hot laps.
• There are specific rules/procedures to address the scenario where the leader takes the checkered flag while a driver is in the pits.
• Qualifying Times will not be published until the respective class qualification deadline is reached. Drivers are allowed to share their own times via PM or other private communications and others can observe their runs with permission from the driver, but qualification lap times or any information that be used to derive lap times should not be posted/discussed in the thread.
• Posting/discussing practice lap times, tunes and driving techniques is encouraged although not required.
• Late qualification will be accepted, but with no chance to race in room A should the need arise to use two rooms for the race.

News and Updates:

• Thread Posted: Friday, January 4th
• Specs Finalized: Thursday, January 10th
• Quali Window Opens: Thursday, January 10th @ 12:00 PM Pacific
• LMP Quali Deadline: Monday, January 21st @ 10:00 PM Pacific
• GT Quali Deadline: Thursday, January 24th @ 10:00 PM Pacific
• Support Races: Saturday, January 26th
• Enduro: Sunday, January 27th

Good Luck, OLR Team

Lounge Settings

• Race Quality: Standard
• Voice Chat Quality: Disabled (with grids over 12)

General

• Date: Sunday January 27th, 2012
• Time: 12:00 PM Pacific | 3:00 PM Eastern | 20:00 PM GMT
• Car: Multi-Class
• Track: Fuji Speedway F
• Qualification: Pre-arranged Qualifying Races (Observed/Verified)
• Driver Change: One Required Simulated Driver Change - 5 Minute Pause in Pits

Event Settings

• Game Mode: Normal Race
• Laps: Timed (# Laps set to 99: Race will finish just after 2.4 hours - 2:24:00.000)
• Start Type: Formation Lap w/ Rolling Start by Class
• Grid Order: Fastest First
• Boost: Off
• Penalty: None
• Automatic Race Start Cycle: Disabled
• Race Finish Delay: Set to 180 Seconds (doesn't matter given timed finish)
• Visible Damage: Off
• Mechanical Damage: Light
• Slipstream Strength: Weak
• Tire Wear / Fuel Consumption: On
• Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
• Pits: Unrestricted w/required simulated driver change (see below)

LMP Regulations

• Car Type: Standard
• Make: Nissan
• Model: R89C Race Car '89
• Performance Points: 711 PP (w/max aero)
• Power: 818 HP Maximum (w/PL=85.8% after full break in)
• Weight: 900 KG Minimum (w/0 ballast)
• Oil Change: Required (All cars must start the race with the oil indicator off)
• Aero: Up to Max Aero Allowed
• Body/Chassis Modifications: Chassis Reinforcement Optional
• Engine Tuning: N/A
• ECU Tuning: N/A
• Intake: N/A
• Exhaust: Titanium Racing Exhaust (Stock)
• Turbo Kits: Not Allowed - Turbo is verifiable by checking for the turbo meter on the HUD
• Transmission: Fully Customizable Transmission (Stock)
• Drivetrain: Adjustable LSD (Stock)
• Suspension: Fully Customizable Kit (Stock)
• Brakes: Brake Balance Controller (Stock)
• Tires: Racing Hard (R1's)
• Tunes: Praiano | TBA

GT Regulations

• Car Type: Premium
• Make: Nissan
• Model: GT-R N24 Schulze Motorsport '11
• Performance Points: 659 PP (w/max aero)
• Power: 790 HP Maximum (w/PL=100% with allowed upgrades after full break in)
• Weight: 1505 KG Minimum (w/0 ballast)
• Oil Change: Required (All cars must start the race with the oil indicator off)
• Aero: Up to Max Aero Allowed
• Body/Chassis Modifications: Chassis Reinforcement Optional
• Engine Tuning: Engine Tuning Stage 3 Allowed
• ECU Tuning: N/A
• Intake: N/A
• Exhaust: Titanium Semi-Racing Exhaust (Stock) | Titanium Racing Exhaust Not Allowed
• Turbo Kits: High RPM Range Turbo Kit Allowed
• Transmission: Fully Customizable Transmission Allowed
• Drivetrain: Adjustable LSD, Clutch: Twin-Plate, Flywheel: Semi-Racing, Carbon Drive Shaft (Stock)
• Suspension: Fully Customizable Kit (Stock)
• Brakes: Brake Balance Controller (Stock)
• Tires: Racing Hard (R1's)
• Tunes: TBA

Race Regulations

• Vehicle Tuning: Unrestricted
• Skid Recovery Force | Active Steering | ASM: Disabled
• Driving Line | TCS | ABS: Optional

Simulated Driver Change


There will be one mandated (simulated) driver change during the race which must take place in a specified time window. To simulate the change a driver will pause during a regular pit stop for 5 minutes. The time window is long enough that it will throw some interesting dynamics into the race and it will also allow the participants to take a small break during the race for a stretch, drink or a real life pit stop during this challenging event.


Specifics:

1. To begin the simulated driver change enter the pits as normal during the driver change window (race clock between 1:00:00 to 1:30:00).
2. Begin the pit stop as normal allowing AI to take over and then selecting tires and added fuel amount and select OK
3. After that screen is dismissed hit "Start" which will show the options buttons ("resume", "chat", "options" and "exit").
4. As long as you see those option buttons you will not be released from your pits. Do not click any buttons including chat or you will be released when you dismiss that screen.
5. The AI will drive the car into your pit stall and begin your normal pit stop. At this point you should be watching the race timer and the crew member with the release flag.
6. When the flag man raises the release lollipop, your 5 minute wait officially begins.
7. Note the race clock time (or current lap time) and write it down. Manually add 5 mins and write down this time which is when you can leave the pit.
8. Take a break, stretch, pat your dog and do whatever else makes you feel refreshed.
9. After the target time has been reached on the race timer hit start and proceed with the remainder of your race.

Driver Change Verification and Infractions:

• All driver changes will be reviewed and penalties applied for improper execution before the results will become official.
• If you do not serve the total 5 minutes a double time penalty will be applied to your finish time. e.g. if you serve only 4 minutes then 2 minutes will be added to your finish time.
• If you accidentally leave the pits early you can avoid a penalty by returning to the pits and serving all of the remaining time on the *very next* lap.
• Any driver that doesn't attempt a proper driver change will be DQ'd and removed from the official results.

Qualifying

Drivers can attempt to qualify for either class (or both). The top qualifying drivers from each class will participate in the "A" race. Drivers who do not make the cutoff will serve as reserves for "A" and participate in a "B" race (assuming there are enough drivers to race in a second lounge). The LMP qualifying deadline is earlier so organizers can "lock down" the LMP class for race "A". Drivers that do not qualify for room "A" in the LMP class can attempt to qualify for room "A" in the GT class. If space is available in the LMP class after the LMP deadline additional drivers can qualify, but cannot displace any drivers that qualified before the deadline and will not be able to qualify for room A.

Qualifying will take place during the two weeks prior to the race event (see windows below). Drivers can arrange ad hoc sessions with an approved steward at any time during the window. All qualifying sessions will require a steward to set up the lounge to proper specs and will consist of short "races" which are observed and verified by stewards and other drivers. Standard WRS track rules are in effect during these races and any infractions will be penalized a minimum of 2 seconds per incident unless it is beyond a reasonable doubt that the "infraction" had a negative impact on the lap time. Each driver can attempt qualifying for a class only once (one shot per class).

Qualification times for a class will not be published until the qualification window closes for that class. Drivers are allowed to share their own quali times via PM or other private communications and others can observe their runs with permission from the driver, but qualification lap times or any information that be used to derive quali lap times should not be posted/discussed in the thread.

Qualifying Race Procedure

1. A race steward will set up the lounge to the proper specs for the class.
2. The driver will be given an out lap and a single hot lap in free run for a final warm up if desired (Drivers should come to the session already warmed up and prepared).
3. After the completion of the practice hot lap the race timer will be started.
4. The qualifying steward and any other observers will monitor the race live to validate the run and save a replay in case of any protest.
5. The qualifying races will consist of 4 laps: 1 un-timed out-lap + 2 timed hot-laps + 1 un-timed in-lap.
6. When the driver finishes the final hot lap he should slow down and park on track before finishing the in-lap.
7. Lap times and any infractions will be noted and announced by the steward.
8. When the driver and steward are in agreement on the recorded net lap times the driver can exit the track.

Qualifying Time

1. The driver’s single best hot lap will determine his starting position on the grid.
2. Any driver in either class that demonstrates in qualification or practice sessions that he cannot keep the car in control and on the track consistently or maintain a reasonable pace will not be allowed to participate in the enduro race. The stewards and event organizers will make that call if it is deemed necessary.

Miscellaneous

• Any disagreement over infractions will be handled via replay review.
• If a driver disconnects before finishing his first hot lap he can return to re-run a qualifying race.
• Any lap completed (and time noted by steward) prior to DC will be counted and the lap count reduced for the 2nd attempt.
• A driver will not be allowed to rerun a qualification lap if he DCs after damage occurs to the car in the lap, but he can rerun subsequent laps.

Qualifying Windows

• LMP: January 10-21
• GT: January 10-24

Approved Qualifying Stewards (in alpha order w/time zone)

1. Allibubba99 (GTP_Allibubba99) - NA
2. ealirendur (GTP_ealirendur) - AU
3. EDK (GTP_EDK) - Pacific
4. Gravitron (GTP_Gravitron) - NA/Pacific
5. hasslemoff (GTP_hasslemoff) - EU (Great Britain)
6. Hydro (GTP_Hydro) - NA/Eastern
7. jtv90069 (GTP_JTV) - AU
8. MadMax86 (GTP_MadMax86) - EU (Finland)
9. mcfizzle (GTP_mcfizzle) - NA/Central
10. Porsche (GTP_orsche) - NA/Eastern
11. Racingworld68 (GTP_Racingworld) - EU (Belgium)
12. Speedy6543 (GTP_Speedy6543) - EU (Belgium)
13. WRP001 (GTP_WRP001) - NA/Pacific
14. w-g-e (GTP_w-g-e) - EU (Netherlands)

Scheduling a Qualifying Session

Drivers should post to the thread requesting a steward to observe their qualifying run and the day/times you would be available. To maximize the chance of making a match with a steward please provide a few times and give a bit of up front notice. Stewards may also post that they have qualifying rooms ready in case anyone is ready to qualify. During those steward prompted sessions the lounge will be set up for free run practice until someone is ready to qualify. Drivers are welcome to practice during these sessions and observe others qualification runs. All qualifying runs must take place in private lounges (not public lobbies).

Finalizing Your Class

All drivers who have attempted to qualify for the LMP class must state their class intentions by January 24th. There are three options:

1. Commit to LMP. GT qualifying not required and any existing GT qualifying times will be disregarded.
2. Commit to GT. GT qualifying required, LMP qualifying disregarded.
3. Reserve LMP. GT qualifying required, LMP qualifying "reserved" pending LMP result, but driver will not be able to qualify for LMP -A.

Multiple Lounges and Guaranteed Spots on the Grid:

• Two lounges will be run for the enduro only if the number of confirmed drivers on race day is at least 20.
• If there are 17-19 confirmed drivers, a few will have to go on "stand by" and may not be able to race in the enduro. Note that all drivers will have the opportunity to participate in the support races.
• In the event there are too many drivers for one lounge, but not enough for two lounges, some spots will be awarded based on qualification time and other spots awarded based on recent series participation. Five seats per class (10 total) will be awarded to the drivers will the highest level of participation* over the most recent 13 weeks (starting with event 59). The three remaining seats per class (6 total) will be awarded to the fastest qualifiers not already awarded grid spots based on participation. Grid order will be determined by qualifying time alone.

*Participation will be calculated using our results database, thus only events with official results will count toward event participation. Both weekly events and special events will be included within the recent event range.

Rolling Starts By Class

LMP cars will leave the grid first and get into a staggered formation. Pole sitter on left side and alternating all the way back. Target speed is 63 MPH / 100 KPH. GT cars should form up the same way shortly behind. Both fields should close ranks after exiting the final corner on the formation lap. Maintain formation lap speed until the start/finish line when the pole sitter will accelerate to race pace. All other cars should accelerate when the car in front accelerates. There should be no overlap with the car in front of you during the start. The GT pole sitter should time the start to maintain a safe gap to the LMP cars.

Mixed Class Racing Rules

Both classes must share the road and show some courtesy to the other class!

LMP Class Ground Rules:

• Be Patient: Your job is to get around the GT class responsibly. Do not dive bomb a GT class car under braking putting them in jeopardy if you make a mistake. Understand where you car holds the advantage and utilize those areas to execute passes safely.
• Have good situational awareness. If GT class drivers you are approaching are engaged in close battles don't expect them to stop their battle and let you go by. You may have to slow and pick your passing lines carefully. You may lose a gap you've built over a competing LMP driver, but that's the nature of multi-class racing. Everyone has a right to the road and everyone is going to get stuck behind a slower car at some point in the race.

GT Class Ground Rules:

• Be predictable. Pick your line and and hold it. Don't suddenly change your line thinking it will allow faster cars to pass. You will just surprise them and mess up any plan they've already made to get around you. If you are taking a corner on the inside hold that line on exit and allow the LMP car to pass on the outside. If you are on an outside line in a corner, maintain that line on exit.
• Have good situation awareness. Understand which cars and how many are around you. Is there one LMP class car attempting to pass or a pack of them. Where do the LMP cars have a big advantage over you (straight, under braking, mid corner).
• Do not block: GT drivers do not have to move aside for an approaching LMP car, but they are not allowed to "block" or interfere with an LMP car trying to pass.

Remember every driver has their own style and approach to the course. You should take advantage of practices and support races to get to know your competitors and their driving styles and their skill level regardless of which class they are racing. Some drivers have more car control than others, some are more comfortable maintaining close proximity to other cars and some may back off with other cars around.

This event is for fun and drivers of all skill levels are welcome. If you have a problem with that then this probably isn't the event for you. Unintentional mistakes are going to happen, but this is a very long race and you have plenty of time to recover (light damage). However, at the same time, all drivers are expected to drive at a pace in which they can consistently control their car and not jeopardize other drivers. Do not drive faster than your ability to control the car. If during practices and races you are not able to consistently control your car you may be removed from the race and/or demoted to a lower race class at the stewards discretion.

Pit Road Entry and Exit Rules:

• Safe Pit Entry: Drivers must keep all four tires within the white lines on pit road entry and must avoid contact with walls. There is no specific speed limit on entry, but the driver will need to slow significantly in order to stay within the boundaries and avoid wall contact. If the boundaries are crossed or wall contact is made the driver can avoid penalty by lifting off the throttle completely for 2 seconds after the car is released from the pits to "self-penalize" otherwise a 10 second penalty will be incurred after the race.
• Safe Pit Exit: Drivers must keep all four tires within the white lines (to the right) on pit road exit and cannot cross over to the left of the track until after the white has ended. Also, even after the white line, the driver exiting the pits is responsible to make a safe entry onto the track and must "yield" to oncoming traffic. Any incident resulting from an unsafe exit will result in a drive through penalty (30 secs) for the driver exiting the pits.

Race End

• At 2.4 hours (2:24:00.000 on the race clock) the "white" flag will be waved.
• The first time the overall race leader (from the LMP class) passes the finish line after 2.4 hours the checkered flag is waved and the leader's race is over. I.e. the first lap completed after 2.4 hours completes the leaders race. After passing the start/finish line the leader should immediately slow to 50 MPH and announce the checkered flag (press start and type "Checkered Flag"). No car should pass him at any time going forward. Any close finishes at the line will be reviewed with replay for the official results. Note: if in doubt, finish your lap and the results will be reviewed.
• After the checkered flag is announced all drivers should complete their current lap and their race is finished when they next pass the finish line. They should line up behind the train of cars that have already finished moving at 50 MPH. When the last car passes the start/finish line we will announce race end, record the results and then allow everyone to exit track and save the replay.
• If you are in the pits beyond the start/finish line when the leader takes the checkered flag you can complete your lap *only* if you can exit pit road before the leader passes the pit exit. You cannot past the leader on the parade lap.

Eligibility

This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!

Registration Instructions

The following must be performed by every driver for every event:

• Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (use your GTP_ tag ID)
• Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.

The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):

• Send a PSN friend request to GTP_3D3Racing, GTP_3D3_A and GTP_3D3_B from your GTP_tag account.
• Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.

There is a 32 car/driver limit for this event and slots are awarded on the grid using a first come first serve basis. Reference the registered drivers table above for availability. This is a stand alone race and points are not tallied for a series. Future WRS-Online races hosted by 3D3 racing may have different driver limits and will require re-registration using the same first come first serve basis and participation in future events is optional.

Registration Changes

If you want to change your time slot, add a time slot or update your color choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

Cancellations

If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend please click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as your status. Please also post a note in this thread as the table above can take some time to update.

Delaying or Restarting Race Start

Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:

• Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
• One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
• Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.

Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:

• Latecomers, even if you've registered
• Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)

Eligibility

This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!

Registration Instructions

The following must be performed by every driver for every event:

• Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (use your GTP_ tag ID)
• Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.

The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):

• Send a PSN friend request to GTP_3D3Racing, GTP_3D3_A and GTP_3D3_B with subject line "3D3 Racing" from your GTP_tag ID.
• Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.

There is a 24 car/driver limit for this event and slots are awarded on the grid using qualification time. Reference the registered drivers table above for availability. This is a stand alone race and points are not tallied for a series.

Registration Changes

If you want to change your status or any other registration choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

Cancellations

If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend the race please post in this thread so we can update the registration list and make the spot available to another driver. Also click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as event status.

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Important notes for the Support races. (note: the two formation laps and GT getting a head start will NOT apply to the Enduro on Sunday)

Summary:

1. The races will be set to 35 laps. (34+1 for LMP, 33+2 for GT)
2. The lounge will be open about 1 hour before the race begins -- watch thread for announcement.
3. Be on time (at least 5 minutes early, but preferably 15).
4. Regulation checks will begin promptly at race start time.
5. There will be 2 formation laps for GT drivers and 1 formation lap for LMP drivers.
6. The formation lap speed limit is 62 mph / 100 kph and a staggered two wide formation will be used.
7. No tire warming procedures allowed during formation laps.
8. Pits are open for the entire race and there is a required short pause in the pits to simulate a driver change.
9. The race finish delay will be set to the max 180 seconds.

Regulation Checks:

All drivers should be in the lounge at least 5 minutes before the race start time. We will begin reviewing these rules at that time. Mics are disabled so it will take a little longer to get all the instructions out. Once the steward begins to type out the instructions please refrain from using the text chat unless you have an important question.

At the race start time we will begin regulation checks. You will be called by name to enter the lounge with the GT drivers entering first in starting order and then LMP cars after regs are updated. Do not enter the course until your name is called and do not exit to the lobby once you are entered.

Stay in the pits until the system places you on the starting grid and then we'll begin the formation lap procedures above.

Formation Laps:

The GT class will leave the grid in order of qualifying and run a single file formation lap at 80 mph (faster than normal formation). Basically the goal of this lap is just to get around fairly quickly and reform for formation Lap 2. At the same time the faster class cars (LMP) will allow the GT class to clear the grid and then leave the grid and park single file on the far left of the track just before turn 1. Be sure to avoid parking close to the pit entrance or exit to avoid any "glitches".

The GT class will finish lap 1, pass the parked LMP class and start lap 2 of their formation lap. The GT class should proceed on formation lap 2 at 62 mph/100 kmh. The LMP class will wait until the slower class cars are entering 100R and then begin to form up in qualifying order and begin their own formation lap at 62 mph /100 kmh. The faster class should maintain about a 1 sector gap to the slower class for most of the formation lap. The pole car each class is responsible for setting a steady pace while allowing the group to keep together.

The GT class will begin the race at the start/finish line after their 2nd formation lap. The target start line is the official timing line and the lead car should make sure after the final turn that all cars have formed behind and closed the gap before the group approaches the start. At that point it's up to the lead car to accelerate to start the race and all other cars can speed up when the car in front of you does so.

The LMP class cars will follow the same procedure and starting point, but the goal will be to time their start at the start finish line so that the lead car from the slower class is exiting Hairpin (half a lap) when the LMP class accelerates to race pace. That should give the GT cars a 1.5 lap head start.

The 62 mph formation laps should be taken in staggered formation. The lead car will take the left side of the track. The second car should take to the right side of the track and alternate all the way back. This helps keep a tighter pack while maintaining better visibility versus single file. Cars should not "overlap" with the car in front of them. No passing before the start/finish line.

Simulated Driver Change:

The LMP class must make a 2 minute pause and the GT class must make a 30 second pause.

Finish:

Between the extra formation lap and shorter pit pause the two classes should finish the race pretty closely. I'm not sure who will actually finish first, but all cars should have a fair chance to complete the race before the timer expires.

Oh no !!! Another enduro

Signed up in GT class.

Signed up as LMP pending car availability and my ability to drive it. I really like the new rules modifications.👍

Signed up for the GT Class. Looking forward to it.

That R89C is a beast, even with a *mere* 85% power.

I don't think I can make any of the races, but I may join you guys for a bit of practice in the lounge(s).

Matt

mcfizzle

Signed up as LMP pending car availability and my ability to drive it. I really like the new rules modifications.👍

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The car is in the OCD right now.... 1/2 price... go grab it before they refresh the list.

millross

That R89C is a beast, even with a *mere* 85% power.

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Yes it is and I love it.

millross

That R89C is a beast, even with a *mere* 85% power.

Matt

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The funny thing about the R89C is that in past events I've always objected to lowering the HP on any LMP car, but in this case I insisted

I'm going to jump in the lobby for a while if anyone is looking to test or practice 👍

Hoppin' in the lounge for a few laps...

EDIT: out of the lounge.

Signed up for Saturday's races.

Signed up for the LMP this time, looking forward to it.

hasslemoff

Signed up for the LMP this time, looking forward to it.

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👍 good to see you have chosen the dark side.

If I can make it I'll go for LMP as well. Way too much fun, driving on the edge of two 350mm wide slabs of rubber with 818 hp under your right foot. Did I mention the engine sound is great too?

hasslemoff

Signed up for the LMP this time, looking forward to it.

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I see you got well into the 1'29s. 👍

And Bart is just about to get in the 1'27s

I'm still waiting for a tuner to have a go and post something.

Did some practise with Stef, yesterday morning. The new specs on the GTR are nice. But it has given the car a lot of cornering speed, I hope this will not give any trouble during racing with the LMP's. But I guess we just have to check that.... at this time I am using Vagabonds suspension tune and my own gearbox. Was able to get into the 1'35's

Just registered for the enduro and the feature races. Not sure yet on the car, but the LMP is very tempting

Racingworld68

Did some practise with Stef, yesterday morning. The new specs on the GTR are nice. But it has given the car a lot of cornering speed, I hope this will not give any trouble during racing with the LMP's. But I guess we just have to check that.... at this time I am using Vagabonds suspension tune and my own gearbox. Was able to get into the 1'35's

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I compared the speed of the LMP and the GT cars in the final sector. The sector times differ quite a bit but that is including half of the main straight and the braking zone into the hairpin. When I started to measure the time from the apex of the hairpin to the apex of the last turn, both cars had about the same time to the second. It has to be said that it wasn't very scientific, I was just using the ingame clock to see on which second I passed both apexes I think we'll see some interesting things there. Maybe GT's on fresher tires overtaking LMP's

PASM

I compared the speed of the LMP and the GT cars in the final sector. The sector times differ quite a bit but that is including half of the main straight and the braking zone into the hairpin. When I started to measure the time from the apex of the hairpin to the apex of the last turn, both cars had about the same time to the second. It has to be said that it wasn't very scientific, I was just using the ingame clock to see on which second I passed both apexes I think we'll see some interesting things there. Maybe GT's on fresher tires overtaking LMP's

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The final sector will probably be the only one that could cause trouble. I have noticed that the LMP on older tyres has a slower exit speed. This would give the GT drivers also an extra 'tension' field wich in my opinion is nice.

Honestly, I don't see a new dynamic being "trouble"... just different.

In the Monza race there was a "trouble" section: the LMP cars were so much faster in T2, but with very little chance for a safe pass without fairly aggressive moves by the LMP driver, and that could reward "over" aggression a bit, especially in the 2nd chicane. We saw a little bit of that in the race, but for the most part drivers from both classes behaved well and made the best of it.

As always the requirement for good multi class racing is that drivers respect other cars and their right to the track/line. The rules apply whether the GT or LMP car is faster in any section of the track... the car that's slower shouldn't move over... just stick to the line and let the faster car manage a *safe* pass. If the faster car can't manage a safe pass they have to wait for another opportunity.... or in this case just follow until the LMP rides into the sunset on the straight.

It's really is no different from Monza T2 except the roles are reversed and the speed differential is much less severe (or nonexistent except for unique circumstances where tire conditions are at extreme opposites).

True, in my humble opinion the LMP v GT battle in T3 will add a new challenge during the race. As long as all the drivers respect each others positions (and handicaps at various stages in the race) and prevent contact at all times, I think this will be a good thing. Definitely something we havent seen before in the Multiclass Enduros This is a whole complex of corners where we can expect some close racing.

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True, in my humble opinion the LMP v GT battle in T3 will add a new challenge during the race. As long as all the drivers respect each others positions (and handicaps at various stages in the race) and prevent contact at all times, I think this will be a good thing. Definitely something we havent seen before in the Multiclass Enduros This is a whole complex of corners where we can expect some close racing.

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T3 is certainly tough in the R89C. It feels soooo slow there. It will certainly add an element to the race that we haven't really seen before when the GT's are close. Like Tim pointed out though, Monza was very similar with respect to drivers being patient - in T2. If the Zonda drivers were behind a Ferrari prior to Lesmos 1, they had to wait until after Lesmos 2 to pass. That's multi class racing 👍

Currently in the lounge for some testing with the gt and lmp car. Feel free to join anytime 👍

EDIT: finished for tonight

WRP001

I see you got well into the 1'29s. 👍

And Bart is just about to get in the 1'27s

I'm still waiting for a tuner to have a go and post something.

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Cheers, I've seen quicker splits but couldnt get them all together yet, I need to get a bit more consistant, I'll post my tune later in the week when I can get back to my PS3 for people to give a try if they want.