Actually, these endless debates don't really result in any meaningful exchange of ideas. For instance, Slip will never see the Standard cars as anything but a crime against humanity, and those of us who like them as blithering idiots, so I think anytime they or possibly you have a bone to pick with one of my posts, I'll just reply, "You're right, you win, I'm sorry I offended you." Or just not respond at all.
I was looking for a 'Are you two old friends?' Frank Honey clip just after Slipztrem joined the fray but this'll have to do - it's right at the start:
It was never a street car, or had anything to do with it. It's a tube framed RWD racecar chassis taken almost directly out of the previous Mazda RX-8 tube framed race car, except this time with Mazda6-shaped carbon fiber body panels put on it and a vaguely Mazda6-ish engine instead of Mazda RX-8 ones and a vaguely RX-8-ish engine.
Everyone else in the universe isn't trying to directly link any of those cars to the road versions (which they similarly stopped being particularly relevant to after rule changes around 2003) to prove a point for how critical it is to have the road version included in a game.Now prior to this frankly bizarre series of posts, I'm used to people calling the Honda NSX race modified extensively with a lowered body on wide custom axles into a Super GT car with a Raybrig livery as "The Raybrig NSX." And a Supra similarly reworked with a Castrol livery as "The Castrol Supra." And that's always worked for everyone else in the universe. You call them whatever you want, I'm going to bed.
You made a claim (the Mazda6 was such a widespread car in motorsports that it's a notable exclusion from Forza's car list). You put a half-assed attempt to support (a Google images link). It was pointed out that the link didn't actually support the claim (since it showed the exact same cars that you were told it would). Then you kept changing the subject to find a reason why the original statement was still true rather than admit that, no, it wasn't.
Not so sure that it's being used as a rallying point, not as such. Personally, I use the observation to counter the grunts from those accusing PD of being lazy.
That would still be a street car modified with a roll cage mounted to the body (and a roll cage isn't the same thing as a tube frame) and a bunch of aftermarket parts; as opposed to a completely bespoke race car with a purpose built chassis with the (non structural) body parts mounted to that.
I always do.
Luckily for 10,000,000 per release, Kaz gets enough right to make fans happy but those with a truly open mind see the potential for the game and are not completely happy with the results. With a guru in charge, the game will always follow his vision, good/bad or somewhere in between.
