Corners 9 & 10 - normal car

Hi guys.

I'm having a lot of trouble nailing corners 9 and 10 on the normal car.

On corner 11, which most people here seem to find the hardest, at least I know what to do, and can nail it a few times.

But on corners 9 and 10, I don't really know what to do...
I have done them fast a few times but it must have been by chance because I can't quite pinpoint and reproduce what I did

I'm often gaining 0.2 secs on the inner straight and then lose 0.5 on these 2 corners!

I wonder if you can give some hints regarding the approach to these corners with the normal car.
Where to break, where to accelerate, how much, where to point the car?

Thanks in advance 👍

Hi there,

I've found a way through these corners that has been pretty useful to me, I hope I can explain it to you accurately 👍

Turn 9: If you have noticed there are some skidmarks on the ground very close to the start of the corner, I brake about 1.5 car-lengths before this, and not full 100% brakes, less than that. My car's position for turn in is not the far left, not the middle of the road, but a little bit right of the middle, in 2nd gear. I've turned in from the far right before with no problems also. You must be as much off the brakes as possible when you turn in here because the car understeers a lot with too much brake here, you should be almost fully off the brake when you're nearly at the apex. I aim for a minimum speed of 29mph (about 46-47kph) and hold the throttle at about 50% (up to about 31, 32mph [51kph]), build it up very gently while staying tight until the car is nearly 99% straight and out of the corner before giving it about 95 to 100% throttle.

Turn 10: You will notice some people do not even touch the brakes for this corner, they just lift off and coast towards the apex. If you did turn 9 with a really good exit and good speed with high throttle, you will need to tap the brake just after you start turning in from the middle of the road. Aim for a minimum apex speed of about 35-36 mph (57kph) and start your throttle application as early as possible. You will have to drift out as wide as possible on the exit to make sure you can give it as much throttle as possible without spinning. You have to be SO careful with the gas here because you want to build it up really fast but the car will spin with too much power + steering angle.

I have noticed some people get the car straight as possible using a very tight exit line and give 100% throttle asap, but this means they get on the throttle a little bit later and are coasting at the apex for longer.

Personally I feed the throttle in early from 36mph (sometimes I even give the throttle a little tiny stab to keep the apex speed up mid-corner if I used too much brake or turned in a bit too early) and try to build it as much as possible while gently unwinding the steering lock, I want to be at 100% throttle about 60% (maybe 70%?)of the way between the apex and the exit kerbing.

If I do this corner perfectly with the best line I can even manage a minimum speed of 37mph (59kph) at the apex

I am using FFB 4, Simulation setting on G25.

I hope this is some help to you mate 👍

All the best
Maz

Maz, what a wonderful detailed explanation. Thank you so much mate 👍👍


"some people get the car straight as possible using a very tight exit line and give 100% throttle asap, but this means they get on the throttle a little bit later and are coasting at the apex for longer."
I have been doing this now I notice

Tonight I will try to practice as you say.

I could already be on 1'48.5 or even 1'48.4 on th normal car if it weren't for these damned corners

Gaviao_pt

Maz, what a wonderful detailed explanation. Thank you so much mate 👍👍

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I just hope it helps you mate because I'm certainly not the fastest!

Gaviao_pt

"some people get the car straight as possible using a very tight exit line and give 100% throttle asap, but this means they get on the throttle a little bit later and are coasting at the apex for longer."
I have been doing this now I notice

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Don't worry too much about this, some of the guys who do this are still able to run 1'47s, this is by no means as important as good turn 7 and 11 technique and execution 👍

All the best
Maz

Synwraith

I just hope it helps you mate because I'm certainly not the fastest!

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It certainly will help. And hey, you're pretty fast on my book!

Sorry for the double post but I must say this...

YES!!
I finally broke the jinx I had on this car and improved 0.2 secs to 1'48.5xx
It wasn't even with my best possible time on T2, if it was I could have improved 0.4 secs

Thanks a lot Maz, it was mostly thanks to your advice. 👍👍👍

People read Maz's advice, it really works!

That's great news Gavaio, very happy for you mate

You will just get faster and faster 👍

All the best
Maz

I think turn 10 is a classic example of where left foot braking is the advantage, if you coast through the turn, its just that...coasting, neither braking or accelerating, which means you're not pushing hard enough. Taking your foot off the accel just before the apex has the needed result of weight shift onto the rear wheels for traction on the accel out, but its too slow, because your revs drop, makng the accel out too slow. Tapping the brake with the left foot while still on the gas here does the required weight shift, but helps keep your revs up for the exit.

I wish I could just do it properly now, thats all...

Taking your foot off the accel just before the apex has the needed result of weight shift onto the rear wheels for traction on the accel out, but its too slow, because your revs drop, makng the accel out too slow. Tapping the brake with the left foot while still on the gas here does the required weight shift, but helps keep your revs up for the exit.

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tapping the brakes shifts weight to the front not the rear wheels.

This could possibly be advantageous because it reduces the amount of understeer out of the corner, pointing your car in a straight line quicker so you can get on the gas sooner.

I am yet to try actually coasting at T10 yet so I cant comment if its quicker or not.

kayman

tapping the brakes shifts weight to the front not the rear wheels.

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I think you're miscorrecting me there. I never said otherwise.