CLOSED: POLL: 2.0 Advanced Competition: Week 3 (WINNER: Revolution.)

SlipZtrEm · Dec 20, 2010

Further explanation of theme, in the words of our first judge for GT5, TOUGEFC:

I think that should suit almost everyone at this stage as every should own at least one car from that period.

CARS: Japanese, from 1990-1999, only
LOCATIONS: any
UNIQUE RESTRICTIONS: none past that

Do not vote for your own entry.
Have confidence in your photo; don't try to sway the poll.
Poll is up until the week's Thursday.
In the event of a tie, a 24 hour poll is created to end Friday.
In the event of a second tie, judge's vote is deciding factor.
Don't forget to vote in both polls during H2H weeks!
Winners have 48 hours to get their new theme to the host.
If the winner can't provide it in time, the runner-up gets to choose.

23.12.10

suzq044 · Dec 20, 2010

aww.. i didn't make it again

vrajdeber · Dec 20, 2010

Me too.

Voted for the Castrol Supra by Revolution. Simple amazing and realistic photo. Well done.

speedthrill · Dec 20, 2010

I made it! But between such nice pics it is no competition.

Very nice Supra indeed!👍

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

I would just like to point out my photo has hidden words. My title "Its Damn Hot" (And photo titles should be added to the competition IMO) comes from the fact that if you read the photo from top to bottom, you see a dam, then below a red hot Mitsubishi 3000 GT. Also, do you see any signs that the photo was taken on a video game racetrack? No.

Edit: But I see now people here dont reward artist expression, creativity, and originality. Based on that criteria, I see nothing overly special about the Supra pics. Some of these early "easy" photos are just impressive because the game is new to us. I expect the easy shots like the Supras to be considered childs play once everyone isnt awed by the photo mode in and of itself. So, perhaps Im ahead of my time by putting too much thought into my photo, that wont be appreciated in the early competitions.

Moglet · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009
I would just like to point out my photo has hidden words. My title "Its Damn Hot" (And photo titles should be added to the competition IMO) comes from the fact that if you read the photo from top to bottom, you see a dam, then below a red hot Mitsubishi 3000 GT. Also, do you see any signs that the photo was taken on a video game racetrack? No.

Edit: But I see now people here dont reward artist expression, creativity, and originality. Based on that criteria, I see nothing overly special about the Supra pics. Some of these early "easy" photos are just impressive because the game is new to us. I expect the easy shots like the Supras to be considered childs play once everyone isnt awed by the photo mode in and of itself. So, perhaps Im ahead of my time by putting too much thought into my photo, that wont be appreciated in the early competitions.

The Supra shot has better lighting, composition, colour balance, sense of action and general quality than most of the other entries. Placing a badly modelled car down infront of an overexposed sky counts for nothing even with the most detailed explanation in the world.

Plus for all you know, Revolution could and probably did put the same amount of thought into his photo.

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

Overexposed sky? Its SUPPOSED to look 100 deg outside. I thought I portrayed that quite well. See that searing glint of the sun on the car? lol. And Im not the one that picked standard cars, so not sure why you want to harp on "badly modeled". I even put the car in a light and focus that wouldnt expose the fact it WAS a standard car. Actually, I didnt do ANYTHING beyond the game photo options to my picture. So I guess it could have been entered into the 1.0 comp. And the 3000GT won a lot of bread for a lot of you back in the day, I thought that pulling her out for this comp she would be rewarded for all the cash and memories she gave you. Yet, you all have turned your back on her! lol

RetroGiant · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009
Overexposed sky? Its SUPPOSED to look 100 deg outside. I thought I portrayed that quite well. See that searing glint of the sun on the car? lol. And Im not the one that picked standard cars, so not sure why you want to harp on "badly modeled". I even put the car in a light and focus that wouldnt expose the fact it WAS a standard car. Actually, I didnt do ANYTHING beyond the game photo options to my picture. So I guess it could have been entered into the 1.0 comp. And the 3000GT won a lot of bread for a lot of you back in the day, I thought that pulling her out for this comp she would be rewarded for all the cash and memories she gave you. Yet, you all have turned your back on her! lol

The fact that the whole image has a cool tone doesn't help the fact in what you were trying to portray. Here I fixed it for you, now its 101 degrees out

http://i.imgur.com/A12DN.jpg

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

Thanks but no thanks retro. All that did is make the picture look dated. Which is not what I was trying for. I wanted realistic coloring in what your eyes would actually see on a hot day. Not photoshopped heat. I was going for real world photo, not doctored.

Nicknamealguem · Dec 20, 2010

RetroGiant
The fact that the whole image has a cool tone doesn't help the fact in what you were trying to portray. Here I fixed it for you, now its 101 degrees out http://i.imgur.com/A12DN.jpg

Its surprising how a little adjustment can make a whole big difference.

Still the photograph itself looks quite standard, no depth of field, no action, a quite flat composition, with no real texture. Don't get me wrong, AGNT009, I am not defending the Supra shot, as I think there are better images in poll and I've seen allot better pictures from that user but still, you can't deny it's a great shot, none the less - great depth of field, action all around it, the car has an incredible texture in it, really great picture.

Moglet · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009
Overexposed sky? Its SUPPOSED to look 100 deg outside. I thought I portrayed that quite well. See that searing glint of the sun on the car? lol. And Im not the one that picked standard cars, so not sure why you want to harp on "badly modeled". I even put the car in a light and focus that wouldnt expose the fact it WAS a standard car. Actually, I didnt do ANYTHING beyond the game photo options to my picture. So I guess it could have been entered into the 1.0 comp. And the 3000GT won a lot of bread for a lot of you back in the day, I thought that pulling her out for this comp she would be rewarded for all the cash and memories she gave you. Yet, you all have turned your back on her! lol

I'm not harping on about anything, I just pointed out that using a standard model that close to the camera is generally a bad idea! It seems a bit unfair to try and bring down another entry just because nobody worked out the riddle contained within yours!

If you can't take the criticism, don't hand it out. Calling other people's photos 'child's play' is quite offensive.

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

I can take the criticism. Maybe I should now call myself The Photo Riddler, lol. I wasnt going for action, more like Car Mag photo advertising the car. My depth of field, if Im understanding that term correctly is that I put a "damn" in the background, lol. Texture, again, wanted a real world real world photo, not something that looked photoshopped to get the desired effect. Not sure what "flat composition means", help me with that one. I dont mind loosing to the guy in the lead now, but it is what it is, a standard shot with no original action scene. Just standing at the corner as the cars come by one by one. Its beauty is that the colors were dumbed down for a very ordinary racing scene. Mine makes you WANT to put sunglasses on, that was the point, lol.

SlipZtrEm · Dec 20, 2010

...there's always one.

Like Moglet's said, taking digs at other shots (the "child's play" comment) is rude. Combined with the comment about "artist expression, creativity, and originality" just comes off as a sore-loser response, at least to me. Nobody forced Standard cars for this week's theme; that was your choice. Personally, I don't like the framing in your shot (the bottom of the car is uncomfortably close to the edge of the image), but the overall blue cast doesn't give me any feeling of warmth. Also, if you were going for action, a still shot doesn't really accomplish that...

As for image titles; they will never be a required portion of this competition. We're here for the images. Though, as this is 2.0, and people are allowed to add borders/framing, there's nothing stopping them from adding a title too

. Mind you, a title wouldn't sway my vote, personally, in the least; a pun is not what I am casting my vote on.

As much as we all may not want to admit it, given the general procedure of the voting process (open to any members), entering competitions is as much about pleasing everybody else as it is about pleasing yourself with your shot. It's a balancing act; I've entered shots I wasn't too happy with because they were "easy", or hit a particular theme better than a shot I may have liked more. It's always best when you satisfy both sides, though. Oh, and might as well take this time to mention it; expect more votes in the near future, as the GTP front page will be having a weekly update on this and PMC 👍

As for my vote... it's going to one of 4 potential shots; either of the black and white Miata, or one of the Celica rally shots. Choices, choices :lol:

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speedthrill · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009
I would just like to point out my photo has hidden words. My title "Its Damn Hot" (And photo titles should be added to the competition IMO) comes from the fact that if you read the photo from top to bottom, you see a dam, then below a red hot Mitsubishi 3000 GT. Also, do you see any signs that the photo was taken on a video game racetrack? No.

Edit: But I see now people here dont reward artist expression, creativity, and originality. Based on that criteria, I see nothing overly special about the Supra pics. Some of these early "easy" photos are just impressive because the game is new to us. I expect the easy shots like the Supras to be considered childs play once everyone isnt awed by the photo mode in and of itself. So, perhaps Im ahead of my time by putting too much thought into my photo, that wont be appreciated in the early competitions.

The supra has been modded alot in PS and seems to be finished of with alot of noise, but it works...

Complaining like that works not...

I did alot of PS myself, and nobody selected mine, but that's normal, sometimes you hit it, sometimes not...
You don't see me complaining.

sejtur · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009

In these competition it's not the title that makes the difference. The picture has to speak for itself. If, like you say, you wanted to accentuate the warmth in the picture, it just doesn't come across. Its hue and everything looks almost thesame as in the game, the only difference is the overexposed sky. There's nothing wrong with overexposing though. It could just as well be a cool cloudy day. With the clouds being overexposed. On some really hot days in hot countries the sky is often deep blue. Get my point?

So if you want to picture warmth, maybe you can take a picture inside of the cockpit with the driver sweating. Not that that's possible, but that would better express the main target of your photo, accentuating that it is a hot day. So it's nice to have ideas about photo's but it has to come across to people. I think noone would have guessed that you aimed to picture heat. And what car it is doesn't really matter to me much.

Just have fun with the PM in GT5, and see you at the next comp.

SlipZtrEm
Oh, and might as well take this time to mention it; expect more votes in the near future, as the GTP front page will be having a weekly update on this and PMC 👍

Niiiiiicccccceeeeee!!! 👍

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

"theres always one" Pfft. Artists are never understood as well until their dead I suppose, lol. I'll admit, it sounded poor loserish, but I back that up in my vote, the NSX night shot. That photo tells a story beyond whats happening in the photo. I just didnt get "that" feeling with the Supras. The cropping was done on purpose, I was trying to get in as much of the background as possible, yet carefully crop out any elements that said this was a race course (flags, markers, grandstands, etc. I even cropped out the rumble strip) , and not a Sunday drive on a hot day on any random road.The colors of the photo are what our real eyes would see if we saw that hot car pass by us, not some filtered image. Yeah, I should have added a title in a border, instead of relying on people to see the hidden humor in the background choice, point taken. Honestly, despite it being too close as you all say, where on the car is it betraying its a standard model? Again, this wasnt filtered at all, I just didnt use a super focus on it (because it really looked like a standard then), I think I just used F 4.0 . But it was focused well enough to think it was real world eyes, and off just enough to hide its flaws. I think you all are caught up in filters so much and forget to enjoy a good real world eyes photo when you see it. Photoshop has spoiled you. Not to say I wont be using it too some day (actually GIMP), but I just wanted the raw beauty of a hot day. Alas, beauty and riddles are in the eye of the beholder. Im only pretending to be a sore loser, but I'll admit, 0 votes to this point does sting a little, lol. I think I'll wait until the new car smell wears off before I submit too many photos and then maybe ordinary "action" shots arent as valuable in competitions.

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

sejtur
Its hue and everything looks almost thesame as in the game, the only difference is the overexposed sky. There's nothing wrong with overexposing though. QUOTE]

What! Whats wrong with it LOOKING like the game? Geeze fellas, you are all pouring over how great the game looks, but when I just use raw game pictures with no filters and touch ups, that isnt good enough to win? And you all act like I used the Cool filter or something when I took the shot. No filters were used. If you want to say the sky isnt right, well, blame kaz cause thats how that sky looks at that camera angle looking in that direction on a Sunny day at High Speed Ring. I didnt do one thing to "overexpose" it.

I thought the bright sunny sky and the sun reflection on the car was convincing enough that its not just a sunny day, but a Damn Hot day as well as a Damn Hot car. See, Double Meaning Riddle! lol

Northstar · Dec 20, 2010

It does look great, but it still has an artificial, sterile feeling to it. That is where filters and adjustments come in along with PS adjustments post Photo Mode.

I think you are taking this too seriously, this is just for fun, some people(like me) consider just making it onto the poll to be as good as winning.

Nicknamealguem · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009
I can take the criticism. Maybe I should now call myself The Photo Riddler, lol. I wasnt going for action, more like Car Mag photo advertising the car. My depth of field, if Im understanding that term correctly is that I put a "damn" in the background, lol. Texture, again, wanted a real world real world photo, not something that looked photoshopped to get the desired effect. Not sure what "flat composition means", help me with that one. I dont mind loosing to the guy in the lead now, but it is what it is, a standard shot with no original action scene. Just standing at the corner as the cars come by one by one. Its beauty is that the colors were dumbed down for a very ordinary racing scene. Mine makes you WANT to put sunglasses on, that was the point, lol.

Read this thread, specially the Aperture, 3rd section, if you don't know what I mean by depth of field. What I mean by flat is that there is nothing appealing about it, it is what it is, a standard shot with no action at all and no defining focus point.
Also and ironically you are right, looking at your shot, makes me want to put the darker sunglasses I have and it is not caused by the non existent heat effect. :rolleyes:

EDIT: I just read this after posting:

AGNT009
The cropping was done on purpose, I was trying to get in as much of the background as possible, yet carefully crop out any elements that said this was a race course (flags, markers, grandstands, etc. I even cropped out the rumble strip) , and not a Sunday drive on a hot day on any random road.The colors of the photo are what our real eyes would see if we saw that hot car pass by us, not some filtered image.

Still, a poor attempt at a scenery shot, if that is what you aimed at, that bridge "hang up" or whatever it is called is quite distracting. Also, my eyes must be all caught up with filters, since that is not what I would see if a "hot" car pass by me, colour and angle wise.

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

Is anyone good at photoshoping that road mirage effect to display heat? lol

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

No, Im not taking this too seriously, Im just trying to understand what it takes around here to get my photos some love. Im taking all the good advice and will come back with a real angle, instead of the funny/riddle angle I went for with this one.

But, Im just pointing out you guys arent the experts you think you are when you call my photo out of whack as a result of me messing it up with after touches, when in truth its just a raw gameshot. So really, to the so called filter/PS experts here, I Gotcha! And I'll take THAT as my win, lol.

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

Ok, that was a great explanation of the in game tools. So, I dont find my sin to be aperature, as I deliberately picked that number. But I find my lack of knowledge about what AE Lock did to be hurting me I guess.

Oh, and I did cheat on that photo. I did it by going on a free drive, and slowed the car down to 5 mph coming around the corner, so I could better nail the pause point for photo mode when I played the replay back. I mistakenly believed crisp clear rims looked better, but now I understand it betrayed the look that the car should have been doing at least 40 mph as it came around the turn, lol.

sejtur · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009
sejtur

Its hue and everything looks almost thesame as in the game, the only difference is the overexposed sky. There's nothing wrong with overexposing though. QUOTE]

What! Whats wrong with it LOOKING like the game? Geeze fellas, you are all pouring over how great the game looks, but when I just use raw game pictures with no filters and touch ups, that isnt good enough to win? And you all act like I used the Cool filter or something when I took the shot. No filters were used. If you want to say the sky isnt right, well, blame kaz cause thats how that sky looks at that camera angle looking in that direction on a Sunny day at High Speed Ring. I didnt do one thing to "overexpose" it.

I thought the bright sunny sky and the sun reflection on the car was convincing enough that its not just a sunny day, but a Damn Hot day as well as a Damn Hot car. See, Double Meaning Riddle! lol

Click to expand...

Where did I say that you used any afterprocessing on your picture?? And how does a reflection say something is hot when it could be just as wel overexposement.

[sarcasm]And yes, in the 2.0 comp we only like photo's that go through heavy filters[/sarcasm]

If done well, I like those filters. Also composition plays an important part for me, and I don't like the composition in your pic, sorry. I don't try to come across as authority or something, just voicing my opinion.

Northstar · Dec 20, 2010

AGNT009
No, Im not taking this too seriously, Im just trying to understand what it takes around here to get my photos some love. Im taking all the good advice and will come back with a real angle, instead of the funny/riddle angle I went for with this one.

But, Im just pointing out you guys arent the experts you think you are when you call my photo out of whack as a result of me messing it up with after touches, when in truth its just a raw gameshot. So really, to the so called filter/PS experts here, I Gotcha! And I'll take THAT as my win, lol.

I haven't seen anyone claiming to be an expert, however there are some people here that have an insane knowledge of photo editing and are willing to give advice to others. Make of that what you will.

As I said earlier, if you just want to use raw game shots you are better off entering the un-edited competition.

suzq044 · Dec 20, 2010

I voted for the NSX. I stated why I liked it in the original thread.

I would like to know why mine didn't get in, out of curiosity, why it was voted 'out' as it were.. PM is fine, again, just curious

AGNT009 - these contests are about perception and what other people think; please don't get too frustrated with not making it, or doing well. You can explain your photo in the entry page, that's what it's for. Unfortunately, not all the voters see that page, or go through the 'trouble' of reading.

AGNT009 · Dec 20, 2010

Ok, I understand why Im not a run away winner. But now that you know about it, wont ANYONE laugh at my "Damn Hot" joke?

sejtur · Dec 20, 2010

I didn't know it was a joke. But if it is, I don't see the humour of it really. Maybe I need to hear you say it to find it funny?

Blackbird. · Dec 20, 2010

suzq044
I voted for the NSX. I stated why I liked it in the original thread.

I would like to know why mine didn't get in, out of curiosity, why it was voted 'out' as it were.. PM is fine, again, just curious

AGNT009 - these contests are about perception and what other people think; please don't get too frustrated with not making it, or doing well. You can explain your photo in the entry page, that's what it's for. Unfortunately, not all the voters see that page, or go through the 'trouble' of reading.

Thanks!

Sorry yours did not make it :guilty:

Hopefully next time. 👍

Definitely the Supra and the JGT... err Super GT cars, I felt like I was in the 90s.

👍

GM · Dec 20, 2010

Suzq I think you didn't make it pherhaps becuase your picture seems 'overedited', it doesn't really represent a 90's Japanese car.. however I do like the picture and this is just my opinion

suzq044 · Dec 20, 2010

Thanks for the quick response

How is a mid-90s Celica not a Japanese car tho?

CLOSED: POLL: 2.0 Advanced Competition: Week 3 (WINNER: Revolution.)

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