Think I've solved Remote Race payout

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It hit me after comparing starting positions, finish order and pay order.

If a racer starts 1st and finishes 16th, then the racer that started 16th will get the highest pay, then if the racer that started 16th finishes 14th, then the racer that started 14th will receive the lowest pay. I know this maybe hard to understand, but i do believe this is how it works. I've kept a chart of races and this has worked on each result.

please try it before you flame it, if you need help figuring pay i've gotten that part covered too

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=183213#post4885340

hope this helps, i haven't tried to figure out xp amounts yet, that one takes time since i'd have to hop between 4 accounts after each race to find exact numbers, and i haven't had time to do that yet, after all, I am human and do have a life like most of you, lol

Edit: did forget another key fact, if its a position swap, say for example driver starts 6th finishes 9th and driver starting 9th finishes 6th, they'd get their respective pay spots, driver that finished 9th gets 9th pay and driver that finished 6th gets 6th pay.

keep in mind i'm basing these off a full 16 player race, that's all i'm use to having, but the method works for all player amounts, i have friends that use my drivers in races with less than 16 racers

anyone else as confused as i am, wonder why pd didn't just make winner get most pay, specially since it could be a solo racer vs a team of your friends drivers, lol
 
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yes and no, it is random because the starting line ups are set randomly, if a level 0 driver starts P1 then most likely some one starting in the back of the field will get a better pay

Key things to look at is after a race look at the results and see the position improvements and use them to see where everyone started, after you figured out the starting order look for P1 and see where he finished, where P1 finished that is your winner. then find P2, where P2 finished thats 2nd, and so on and so on

its very confusing and not sure why PD didn't just make the winner the winner, i mean after all the host is out numbered, only allowed 1 driver, so if the host wins and gets a low pay then their friends walk away with all the credits while the host gets very little.
 
been grinding with 3 accounts.
level 30 bob earns more then level 0 bob. almost double after 8 hours
been doing this with all levels bob, and all above 30 earning more cr.

i think it has to do how your bob is racing his race by overtaking and stuff.
the best performing bob gets the most cr.and xp.
 
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Wouldn't this mean being lumbered with the Vantage should actually be a good thing then? As it's guaranteed to finish last the only way is quite literally up for whichever car started last.
 
xlr8life
If a racer starts 1st and finishes 16th, then the racer that started 16th will get the highest pay, then if the racer that started 16th finishes 14th, then the racer that started 14th will receive the lowest pay. I know this maybe hard to understand, but i do believe this is how it works. I've kept a chart of races and this has worked on each result.
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What happens if said guy that started 14th wins the race?
 
This is all a bit confusing, but what if there is not a full field of 16 cars? Is the payout more, less, or the same?
 
Does the drivers class level also have a bearing on payouts? For example a higher class driver getting less money for moving through a field of lower class drivers than a lower class driver would if it were the other way around and please forgive my confusing sentence... it is late, I am tired and rambling. :odd:
 
@PrettyNiceGuy: well I did the 9 remote races using 4 accounts (1 from my main account and 15 from 3 spare accounts, 5 each) and a level 0 earned more than the rest, and he had finishes of 11th, 4th, 16th, 2nd, 16th, 12th, 12th, 14th and 12th and earned 94,400 credits. My level 28 that had finishes of 1st, 3rd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 7th, 2nd and 2nd only received 88,200 credits.
I thought it had to do with level at first, but with others having earned with level 0's as well, there's another factor besides level, and I think this is it.

@GilesGuthrie: hard to say, one is 1 race 1 payout, the other is 3 races with 3 payouts and since there is a bit of randomness to the payouts it could be about the same as 1x 20 minute race, could be less.

@Blue2moro: actually there is no way to trick the pay system. Since it is based off starting spot, the pay will always be random because you can't control the starting line up. P1 starter controls the winner. where ever P1 starter finishes, that position starting number is the winner. So P1 starter finishes 12th, P12 starter wins, P1 starter finishes 8th, P8 starter wins. same goes for the other positions, P2 starter finishes 9th, P9 starter gets 2nd, P8 starter finishes 1st, P1 starter gets 8th. As I've said, it's very confusing, but I've tried this on 9 races and it did work.

@freight48: driver that started 1st gets 14th place pay.

@Jafo: I know and agree it's very confusing, not sure why PD didn't just award the winner with the most pay, especially since it could be a driver belonging to the Host and the Host is only allowed 1 driver. All my testing was done with a full field of 16 drivers. using less drivers does result in less credits available from the payout, haven't found all out, but do know a 5 minute race between 2 drivers, pay is 2860 and 2490.

@grrlpurple: Level didn't effect pay. There have been people saying they've had lower levels earn more credits and people have said they've had higher levels earn more credits, so really that should show that levels high and low are both successful and that level doesn't have any effects in pay.

I apologize if this is really confusing and hard to understand, I'm trying to explain best I can, it's actually hard to figure out the best words to explain this. I'm hoping this is a bug or glitch on PD's side and some how they find out and can fix it so it rewards the right pay for the right finishing positions or atleast explain, atleast in the manual, how the payouts are rewarded. Just trying to help figure this out like most are. I've tried driver levels, improved positions, neither of those held true, had to be another way, this looks like it could be it, it worked on 9 race results, but that doesn't mean somebody could find out that this isn't the way pay works, that's cool, that means need to figure out another way, just looking for answers like others are, and i'm trying to help out. now before i blab on anymore, hope my responses help, thats all i'm trying to do, help out.
 
xlr8life
......hope my responses help, thats all i'm trying to do, help out.
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Yeah man, I appreciate what you're trying to do :).

I have no idea at all but I was wondering if fastest lap has anything to do with it? They are listed in the results screen after all. Also, wasn't the Signature Edition comp something to do with fastest laps?
 
Thanks, just been curious about the payouts myself and when i found something i thought worked, i thought i'd share it.
Fastest lap didn't always get highest pay. I did think that at one point, but the results shot it down. Not sure about the Signature Edition Comp. Living in the U.S. we only got the Collector's Edition. We only had the GT Academy.

Part of me is still convinced there maybe more than one possible payout system, that Level, Best Lap, Position Improvement, may all be a key factor in payouts along with other elements. It still seems so random that there could be a possibility that each race could have a different way it pays out, but who knows, lol
 
I did something like this the other day, created a topic with 0 replies (fail)

I did 17 20 minute races.

Lower levels get more exp and more cash, no matter how bad they did! Each race was 6 people.

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i played with random friends a couple of days who selected my 0 level bob and they where generating more money then my 30 level bob's.
i played with 4 level 30 bob's and two level 0.
level 0 generated way more cash with random friends, because everyone was selecting the lower level bob!!

now i have been grinding with only 3 sub accounts for the last 3 days.
and when all level 30 bob's are around 150.000cr or 160.000cr the level 0 bob's are still under 100.000cr.
3 days in a row!! all done with long races.
in 13 players race.
 
this is all great but the host is the big loser
with only one driver.
and will eventually have the lowest payout overall if you race more drivers from the same friends.
 
treuzel
this is all great but the host is the big loser
with only one driver.
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Remote race is about making money for your friends, not yourself. Watch the game change (and the rewards go up!) as you run with a small, but dedicated group of remote racers. 👍
 
NLxAROSA
Remote race is about making money for your friends, not yourself. Watch the game change (and the rewards go up!) as you run with a small, but dedicated group of remote racers. 👍
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Speaking of which, I was struggling to select your drivers yesterday remotely. they were not crossed out, but on selection acted like they were in a race!

On topic, why it couldn't have been 1st gets x, 2nd gets x etc, I will never know. Bonus cash for fastest lap as well, would be nice to see a little official report after the race.
 
dhandes
Speaking of which, I was struggling to select your drivers yesterday remotely. they were not crossed out, but on selection acted like they were in a race!
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I noticed the site is not always realtime up to date, it says the drivers are free, while they are in fact racing.
 
I do think it's safe to say that since many bugs are appearing within b-spec (players not receiving or losing their drivers rewards, drivers getting reset to a lower level, etc.) it could be that there is no correct answer right now because the system is bugged. I'm surprised no one has asked PD about this, I've looked for a way, but besides kaz's twitter, which i don't speak japanese, i couldn't find any way to ask.
 
NLxAROSA
Remote race is about making money for your friends, not yourself. Watch the game change (and the rewards go up!) as you run with a small, but dedicated group of remote racers. 👍
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Not for me, I run remote races on my GTP account that include all of my 6 drivers on my main account and then fill up the rest of the spaces with friends.:sly: It is helping me in my quest to own all the cars and helping out others in the process, remote racing is great.:)

I have no idea on how the money system works though, everytime I think it makes some sense it throws up some strange results again.
 
Think PD actually solved the mystery, payouts are now by finishing order like it should have been, but i have noticed it seems pay has been reduced, example being i just raced daytona with 16 drivers and my driver won and received 20,200 credits instead of 35,000 like it was before, another example i did the 5 minute race on tsukuba with 16 drivers and the winner received 6,600 credits instead of 12,500 like before.

so atleast now it seems they made it so the winner is the winner and receives winners pay, now question is what's the pay, lol
 
they changed a lot overnight.

the winner takes the highest price and number two second highest.
prices are decreased by half!!

so now even B-spec is ruined,..why would PD take every joy out of this game.
how do you suppose to make money to fill your garage??
to much negative changes!!

thanks again pd,....just update the seasonal events on time maybe then i hit level 40 one day (probably not).
but at least I'm playing the game then.

won't be hosting races from now on,..it isn't worth it. (1 day 1 driver only 50.000)
back to endurance grinding!!
 
treuzel
they changed a lot overnight.

the winner takes the highest price and number two second highest.
prices are decreased by half!!

so now even B-spec is ruined,..why would PD take every joy out of this game.
how do you suppose to make money to fill your garage??
to much negative changes!!

thanks again pd,....just update the seasonal events on time maybe then i hit level 40 one day (probably not).
but at least I'm playing the game then.

won't be hosting races from now on,..it isn't worth it. (1 day 1 driver only 50.000)
back to endurance grinding!!
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My 6 drivers have all earned a minimum of £100k (with a couple clearing £200k) in the last 12 hours. Those 12 hours include the downtime when PD was making changes too.
 
Blue2moro
My 6 drivers have all earned a minimum of £100k (with a couple clearing £200k) in the last 12 hours. Those 12 hours include the downtime when PD was making changes too.
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it was based on 6 or 8 hours,...and the prices seem to have dropped during downtime.
and yesterday i had 2.5k in 8 hours per driver
 
I think they may have fixed the bugs that OP was referring to? My driver just finished 16th in a 5 minute race and got 1,060, which is the same as in the table from OP.
 

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