New League/ Club

Hey All.

I am looking to join and or start a New League/ Club. I am already a member of the Turtle Racing League, and I like the way they are setup, but I'd like to join or start a league that has a multi-class setup in Enduro style. I'd love to see at least 2 classes, but preferably 3-4 classes on the same track at the same time for at least 45 minutes to an hour at a time, possibly longer.

Obviously this type of setup would require a regular commitment from members of the league so that we can have competition on the course, and preferably at least 20 members with the ability to run every week. We could have 2-4 classes at 1 time on the track, with PP or weight to HP basis for determining classes. I know rooms can only hold 16 for an actual race, so if we had 3 classes at a time, it would be 5 cars per class, with 1 spot for an alternate/ additional racer, or 4 classes, with 4 cars per class, or even the option for a larger single class, and smaller classes as well, such as 6-6-4, or even 8-4-4. I'd prefer to have at least 4 cars in each class, so depending on turnout and/or interest, I think we could work that out.

I'd like to give people the option of running multiple classes, but preferably stay in the same class for 4-6 weeks at a time. Maybe a graduation system, i.e. start in bottom class for new peeps, and top 2 in each class gets graduated to next class, and bottom 2 gets set lower. For classes with 4 or less, top 1 and bottom 1 would be moved. All of this is still based on turnout, but I think optimum would be a beginner/ amateur class of 4, a mid-level class of 6-8, and a top-level class of 4-6.

I'd like to have the type of setup where we could have 1-2 hour practice session on day 1, and day 2 would have a 30 minute to 1 hour qualifying session, and then a 15 minute warmup period, followed by a full enduro length race of at least an hour, but possibly longer. If we can get the competition level up, something that requires a decent commitment from you guys, then we could look into races that require at least 3 pit stops. I think that would be ideal, and closer to an actual race. Typically this length of race would require around 90 minutes to 2 hours, plus warmup and qualifying. Based on the way GT5 sets starting spots, a general qualifying session of at least 30 minutes should allow for everyone to be placed within their respective classes, as there should hopefully be at least a 2-3 second difference in lap times between classes.

As far as scheduling, I'd like to have 6 week seasons, with Division/ Class points, and overall points. Basically going on the above class setup I mentioned, we'd have points allotted to each finishing position within your class, and my goal would be as follows:

1st place: 10 points
2nd place: 7 points
3rd place: 5 points
4th place: 3 points
5th place (if applicable): 2 points
6th place (if applicable): 1 Point
7th & 8th (if applicable): 0 points

Overall would be as follows:
1st place: 25 points
2nd place: 21 points
3rd place: 18 points
4th place: 16 points
5th place: 14 points
6th place: 12 points
7th place: 10 points
8th place: 9 points
9th place: 8 points
10th place: 7 points
11th place: 6 points
12th place: 5 points
13th place: 4 points
14th place: 3 points
15th place: 2 points
16th place: 1 point

To determine standings, we would combine both points and provide a standings for each class, and then at the end of each 6 week season, we would announce a champion for the season, as well as graduations/ demotions.

Classes & Restrictions-

Class A (Top-Level):
-PP Cap of 800
-Unlimited Tuning
-No Drivers Aids, except ABS
-Preferably same type of car per week or season, but debatable. (i.e. everyone has to run a LM class or Prototype vehicle for the season which has be tuned to 800 PP, and then the next season change it up to RM cars, or whatever)

Class B (Mid-Level):
-PP Cap of 650
-Unlimited Tuning
-Driving Line and ABS acceptable, all others disabled
-Preferably same type of car per week or season, but debatable. (i.e. everyone has to run an Exotic/ Supercar vehicle for the season which has be tuned to 650 PP, and then the next season change it up to GT500 cars, or whatever)

Class C (Beginners):
-PP Cap of 500
-No Tuning other that Brake Balance
-All Aids available
-Preferably same car per week or season, but debatable. (i.e. everyone has to run a McLaren MP4-12C for the season, and then the next season change it up to Ferrari F40, or whatever)

I Feel like this would allow for the most competition among Classes, and still allow everyone to remain mostly competitive across Classes as well. Obviously Class A should dominate Class C, but top level Class C should be competitive with bottom level Class B, and so forth, which should allow for a good mix of racing, and some interesting results in points standings. The 6 week season should allow for enough time to see driver ability, and not so long that someone runs away with the points.

I'd like to consider an all star race in between each season or every 2 seasons, where everyone runs all 3 classes in the same night, but have 3 heats of 15-20 laps, with qualifying for the first heat, and then flipped grid for the next 2. You would have the option of running whichever Class you wanted for each heat, but you have to have run all 3 classes by the end of the night, and then we would combine points earned for each heat to determine an overall podium for the night, with a prize for the Champ, and bragging rights for 2nd and 3rd.


I'm basically putting this out there as a feeler to see if there is enough interest to open a full league, or if anyone knows of a league that is already setup in this manner or a very similar manner. Please respond if interested, and let me know availability. If I do decide to setup a new league, We'd be looking at probably Thursday Evening practice session, and a Sunday (Day or Evening) Race day, but I'd be open to suggestions.

P.S.

If anyone has ideas/ suggestions how to tweak the class system, points system, scheduling, etc. I'd love to hear it, As I'm hoping to get this started within the next few weeks, and I'd like to have a pretty good outline of where we're wanting it to be before I build everything necessary to get it set up.

Hey man, I'm Curt from The Green Kingdom. My league sounds like something you would be interested in. Take a look at our thread and let me know what you think, link is in my signature.

I appreciate the response, but not really what I'm looking for. I'm looking for something with multiple tracks per season, with maybe 1 or 2 tracks that are kept season to season... yours appears to be a single track with multiple classes. Close, but no tamale...

Casa

I appreciate the response, but not really what I'm looking for. I'm looking for something with multiple tracks per season, with maybe 1 or 2 tracks that are kept season to season... yours appears to be a single track with multiple classes. Close, but no tamale...

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Well for the time being we are sticking with Nürburgring, but I do plan on introducing other tracks, probably with same cars. There is also a few people within my thread who have started their own enduros, one is FIA GT1 and the other is the 1500 series,

Bump. Seems no interest. Bumping to confirm before I close this option. Hoping it was just that no one saw it when it had been posted previously.

wow

Casa, check out the new BORDL thread, aimed at novices and intermediates but with enough interest i am looking to expand to different classes etc. Only started working on it today and need to get some people signed up to get things going.

I am very interested in this.

Glad to hear it. If I can get 5+ people interested in it, I'll go ahead and draw up the full rulebook, and attempt to get the community created, and the new forum setup. Hopefully we can at least get some of us to start running together and see how it goes. From what I've seen, good racing draws in good people to race with you. I'm pretty excited about it, so hopefully we can get started soon.

Ya I am probably gonna race at the the bottom & if I start winning a lot I will move up.

I would be very interested in this. We're trying to get curtex's league up and going too.

We are about 2 weeks from the deadline I had in mind for getting this all sorted out and started. Curious to see if we have any more takers out there. I'd like to get the full outlines for everything laid out within the next week or so, and then launch a new thread in the Clubs and Leagues page with the full breakdown, including car requirements/ideas and everything.

I'm considering changing off of the PP model for car requirements and switching up to HP/ Weight model, with an ideal range, i.e. Class C would have a max of 355 HP and weigh more than 1300kg. Something like that. Let me know what you think...

Alright guys... pretty sure I'm gonna put this into motion now. I know I didnt get a ton of response, but I'm hoping if I fully build it out, and flesh out all details including the (hopeful) schedule, I can get some actual members lined up.

Not certain on the dates I am trying to schedule for, but hopefully I can have that locked down by this weekend, and develop a full schedule for the first series. I'll post a link to the new thread once I'm done, and hopefully we can get started shortly thereafter. I'd like to get together for a couple of practices ASAP, even if we cant get the actual series up and running right away.

Hope to see you guys there soon!

P.S.

I am also looking into a true to life Daytona club. This would consist of limiting the cars to like 650 HP, weighing the cars down, and limiting Downforce to actual NASCAR regulations, but otherwise open to tuning. We'd base the stats that are locked on acheiving actual lap times for most recent qualifying for Daytona as of 2013, so we'd attempt to limit the vehicles to whatever HP/ PP that would duplicate this result as closely as possible.

I havent had a whole lot of time to replicate/ play with this, so the exact stats required are not set yet, but I'll try to play with this over the next few weeks if I decide to go forward with this idea. Once locked down, I'd like to look into 100-200 lap events every 2 weeks or monthly, possibly rotating, so we'd run Nationwide length, then a Daytona 500 length, then a nationwide again, then a Coke Zero length, etc. Let me know what you guys think.

I would join the NASCAR league for sure. The full hp rooms got boring so I started hosting 601hp rooms. They were a hit for a while, but after a few weeks people stopped joining, and you can't find one with any regularity anymore. Fewer pit stops and more drafting, who doesn't want that?

Do you have any idea when races will take place? Race times, weekdays etc...

I'm looking at Mondays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. Possibly Sundays, but that day is not a lock for me at this point. I'm probably looking into a rotating schedule, so each series would run on alternating weeks, with a practice on Mondays, and Racing on either Wednesday or Thursday. Obviously with the NASCAR Series, I don't think practice is needed nearly as much (at least not weekly), so we may look into a group tuning session prior to racing, and then the full race. Perhaps a 45 minute tuning session, with a 15 min qualifying session, 5 min break, and then race.

If this is what we decide to go with, then it could become a weekly practice for the multi-class series, and a bi-weekly race. Possibly try to hold a mini event, or a combo race, or something else on the spare day. Like I said, still working on the details, but glad to see some people are still interested. Hoping to start on the main page today, and then possibly divide up the two series into separate boards, or maybe a combined points and a separate points system. Sooo many ideas...

Will update soon.

OK Guys!

I have officially setup the outline for the new series, the Multi-Class Championship Series. The new page is located here. I will post all future updates to the league at this location, and hope to see you guys there soon. Our tentative First Practice is scheduled for Monday, April 1st at 8PM EST.

Thanks!