Are the end times really near?

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If it be a form of Biblical end time prophecy or from the tabloids...

What is your guys' take on the end times? Will there be a such thing called the "end times" or not?

If so, when will it be? How do you know/guess that it will be at that time? Are there signs indicating the end times are near or far away? What will the end times be like? Will it be the end of existence or will there be a "rebirth" (If I didn't ask a question here that you want to answer, feel free to ask me to add it and answer away)

If not, what makes you draw your conclusions as to there will be no such thing?
 
There was a program about this on Sky one - something about decoding the Bible or Torah and finding out the world will end in a year or 2, i think that includes everything :confused:
 
Techincally there won't be an end of time because the span of time is infinite. There will be an end to man, but time will keep going on. Man will end up killing themselves some how some way in a couple thousand years. Life in the universe cycles, but time does not.
 
OMFG.

*Refers to Long Hard Road Out Of Hell*


No. They are not. Ronald Reagan was not the anti-christ, and the end of days IS NOT September 24th, despite what half of America has been saying for 50 years. #17/Nate, I strongly, STRONGLY recommend you pivk up that book, and read chapter 3.
 
Well, yeah, we're getting close to the end times. Could be any day now. However, nobody knows the exact time. So, I would suggest that we all NOT get into another flame war about theology.
 
BlazinXtreme
Techincally there won't be an end of time because the span of time is infinite.
Possibly. Unlikely though – if space-time is continuous, how could it be expanding if it's already infinite?

Anyway: The end of the world? Who cares – unless some country goes nuke-happy, I won't see the end of the world in my lifetime. The sun's still got a good 5 billion years of burnin' to go.

I don't know why people are so eager for the end of the world to come.
 
Well the universe expands to infinity then compresses back to be infinitly small, then it blows up again starting the process over. This has been going on for a infinite amount of time. I think the space continum is infinite, but there are a ton of theories out there and there really isn't a way to prove it.
 
Excerpt from LHROOH:


The end of the world didn't come when it was supposed to.

I was brainwashed to believe, in seminars every Friday at Heritage Christian school, that all the signs were there. "You will know the beast has risen up out of the ground, becasue there will be heard everywhere a great gnashing of teeth," Ms. Price would warn in her sternest, most ominous voice to rows of cowering sixth-graders. "And every one, children and parents alike, will suffer. Those that don't receive the mark, the number of his name, will be decapitated before their families and neighbours."

At this point, Ms. Price would pause, dip into her pile of flash cards of the apocalypse and hold up an enlarged photocopy of a UPC symbol—but with the number manipulated to read 666. This was how we knew the apocalypse was around the corner: the UPC code was the mark of the beast spoken about in Revelation, we were taught, and the machines being installed into supermarkets to read them would be used to control people's minds. Soon, they warned, this satanic price code would replace money and everyone would have to get the mark of the beast on their hands in order to purchase anything.

"If you deny Christ," Ms. Price would continue, "and take this tattoo on your hand or forehead, you will be allowed to live. But you will have lost eternal"—and here she'd hold up a card showing Jesus descending from heaven—"life."

For other seminars, she had a card with a newspaper clipping detailing Jon Hinckley, Jr.'s then-recent attempt to assassinate Ronald Wilson Reagan. She would hold it up and read from Revelation 13: "Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is 666." The fact that there were 6 letters in Reagan's first, middle and last names was one sign that this was our final hour, that the Antichrist was here on earth and that we must prepare for the coming of Christ and the rapture. My teachers explained all of this not as if it was an opinion open to interpretation, but as if they were an undeniable fact ordained by the Bible. They didn't need proof; they had faith. And this practically filled them with glee in anticipation of the coming apocalypse, because they were going to be saved—dead but in heaven and freed from suffering.

It was then that I began having nightmares—nightmares that continue to this day. I was thouroughly terrified by the idea of the end of the world and the Antichrist. So I became obsessed with it, watching movies like The Exorcist and The Omen and reading prophetic books like Centuries by Nostradamus, 1984 by George Orwell and the novelized version of the film A Theif in the Night, which described very graphically people getting their heads cut off because they hadn't received 666 tattoos on their forehead. Combined with the weekly herrangues at Christian school, it all made the apocalypse seem so real, so tangible, so close that I was constantly haunted by dreams and worries about what would happen if I found out who the Antichrist was. Would I risk my life to save everyone else? What if I already had the mark of the beast somewhere on me—underneath my scalp or on my ass where I couldn't see it? What if the Antichrist was me? I was filled with fear and confusion at a time when, even without the influence of Christian school, I was already in turmoil because I was going through puberty.

Sure evidence of this is despite that Ms. Price's terrifying seminars, detailing the world's impending doom, I found something sexy about her. Watching her preside over class like a Siamese cat, with her pursed lips, perfectly combed hair, silk blouses concealing a ****-me body and stick-in-the-ass walk, I could tell there was something waiting to burst out of that repressed

Circle Two - The Lustful​

Christian facade. I hated her for giving me nightmares my entire teenage years. But I think I hate her even more for the wet dreams she inspired.

I was an Episcopalian, which is basically diet Catholic (same great dogma but now with less rules) and the school was nondenominational. But that didn't stop Ms. Price. Sometimes she'd start her Bible class by asking, "Are there any Catholics in the room?" When no one answered, she'd lay into Catholics and Episcopalians, lecturing us about how they misinterpreted the Bible and were worshipping false idols by praying to the pope and the Virgin Mary. I would sit there mute and rejected, unsure whther to resent her or my parents for raising me as an Episcopalian.

Further personal humuiliation came during Friday assemblies, when guest speakers would talk about how they had lived as prostitutes, drug addicts and practitioners of black magic until they found God, chose His righteous path and were born again. It was like a Satanists Anonymous meeting. When they were done, everyone would bow their heads in prayer. If anyone wasn't born again, the failed pastor leading the seminar would ask them to come on stage and hold hands and be saved. Every time I knew I should have walked up there, but I was too petrified to stand on stage in front of the entire school and too embarrassed to admit that I was morally, spiritually and religiously behind everybody else.

Reverend Earnest Angley was one of the more notorious televangelist faith healers of the time.

The Reverend was one of the scariest people I'd ever met: his perfectly strait teeth gleamed like bathroom tiles, a toupe sat clumped on top of his head like a hat made from wet hair caught in a bathtub drain and he always wore a powder blue suit with a mint green tie. Everything about him reeked of artificiality, from his plastic, over-manicured appearance to his name, which was supposed to evoke the phrase "earnest angel".

Every week he called a variety of crippled people to the stage and supposedly healed them in front of millions of TV viewers. He would poke his finger in a deaf person's or a blind person's eye, yelling "Evil spirits come out" or "Say baby", and then wiggle his finger until the person on stage passed out. His sermons were similar to those at school, with the reverend painting the imminent apocalypse in all it's horror—except here here people screaming, passing out and speaking in tongues all around me. At one point in the service, everyone would throw money at the stage. It would rain hundreds of quarters, silver dollars and wadded up dollar bills as the Reverend went right on testifying about the firmament and the fury. Along the walls of the churchwere numbered lithographs he sold depicting macabre scenes like the four horsemen of the apocalypse riding through a small town not unlike Canton at sunset, leaving a trail of slit throats behind them.

The services were three to five hours long, and if I fell asleep, they'd reprimand me and take me to a seperate room where they held special youth seminars. Here, they'd chastise me and about a dozen other kids about sex, drugs, rock and the material world until we were ready to throw up. It was a lot like brainwashing: we'd be tired and they purposely wouldn't give us any food so that we were hungry and vulnerable.




The story goes on like that for another 2 pages, but you can clearly see that something is wrong here. I'll leave you folks to decide what.
 
BlazinXtreme
Well the universe expands to infinity then compresses back to be infinitly small, then it blows up again starting the process over. This has been going on for a infinite amount of time. I think the space continum is infinite, but there are a ton of theories out there and there really isn't a way to prove it.
To go from infinitely large to infinitely small, the universe would have to pass through a finite state, and it's impossible to go from an infinite state to a finite state (what is "slightly smaller than infinity"?).

Also, if the universe were infinitely large, then that would mean time would be infinite, which would then mean that everything there was to happen would've already happened – in other words, history would already be over. And the universe would be at thermal equilibrium, which of course we know it's not. ;)

Anyway, sorry, I digress. It's not terribly relevant anyway, since the sun will explode before anything happens to the universe as a whole.
 
Sage
To go from infinitely large to infinitely small, the universe would have to pass through a finite state, and it's impossible to go from an infinite state to a finite state (what is "slightly smaller than infinity"?).

Also, if the universe were infinitely large, then that would mean time would be infinite, which would then mean that everything there was to happen would've already happened – in other words, history would already be over. And the universe would be at thermal equilibrium, which of course we know it's not. ;)

Anyway, sorry, I digress. It's not terribly relevant anyway, since the sun will explode before anything happens to the universe as a whole.

One of the many theories...thats why physics is so cool! But I can see were you are coming from though.
 
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But of course physics go out the window when you start talking about religion, remember?

Obviously, you didn't see this post.

Swift
Well, yeah, we're getting close to the end times. Could be any day now. However, nobody knows the exact time. So, I would suggest that we all NOT get into another flame war about theology.
 
I'm not talking about religion what so ever, I'm talking about science. But really science and religion are so closely related its scarey that no body ever wants to mix the two.
 
They're not related at all, so I'm not surprised. Been over to the creation vs evolution thread lately?


Anyway I draw that there will be no "endtimes" until Humans have wiped themselves out, by disease, overpopulation, pollution or other cause of death, or the sun burns out. Which, is still by definition, not the endtimes anyway.
 
i dunno the world is acting really weird now... temperature wise :odd: and juss with everything happening. i think humans are screwing it up.
 
The world is getting hotter because thats what planets do, its a cycle. Humans are screwing up the world.
 
Famine you're smart with the science stuff, maybe you can school me on the space time continum thing. I've only taken a few classes that deal with it but you always seem to know whats up with science topics.
 
are the end times really near

According to the bible they are. The bible speaks of things that have happened and things that haven't. But if you look at what has happened we see we are at least into the book of revelations. We dont know how long the world has been around, or how long the book of revalations is spred out time-wise. But it's safe to say mans time is 90% over. Although, that last ten percent may take 100,000 years. I dont think their is a set time. The bible says that when the end comes it will be after everyone has had the chance to come to god. And that Man wont know the exact day or hour of it's happening. Untill it happenes, of course.

About the antichrist, the bible does in fact point, verry precisely to where he will pop up. Id dosen't say who wil be the antichrist to the point of giving a name, but it says where he will hold power. I dont want to say for fear I would get banned but lets say the antichrist will be some one of great religous power.
 
inferno
About the antichrist, the bible does in fact point, verry precisely to where he will pop up. Id dosen't say who wil be the antichrist to the point of giving a name, but it says where he will hold power. I dont want to say for fear I would get banned but lets say the antichrist will be some one of great religous power.

Oh go on. I promise you won't get banned for it*. I fancy a laugh.


BlazinXtreme - I'll try. What do you want to know?


*Not an actual promise, since I've got bugger all to do with it. But the moderators have a sense of humour.
 
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What is your guys' take on the end times? Will there be a such thing called the "end times" or not?
Judging by some of the inane urbz yo txt msg typing, and the posts made that way, I'd say yes, the End Times will be here in ohhh, about 10 years.
 
Time is a infinitial diamension right? So therefore there must be no end to time.

Is this statement correct or am I not quite getting the jist of it?
 
Or maybe those who wrote the bible just threw it in there to go "See, if you don't be good, we'll all get smited because of you. Now sit down, shut up and do what you're told."
 
Sage
I thought we already established that Famine is the antichrist?

(:D)

Indeed.

Though it's well known that I'm merely one of the four horsemen (the third, for those of you keeping count), I've TWICE been called the AntiChrist while I've been on this site.

Funny old world.


inferno's interpretation as PMed to me is that the AntiChrist will be a Pope. However, something tells me, former Nazi though he is, that it isn't Pope Goosestep IV (I've forgotten his name already... Is that bad? :( ).

I can't see you being banned for that, in any case.
 
I thought the world was supposed to end when Bush got chosen to return to office..
I went out and bought a new chair and some beer to watch ...I waited but nothing happened...I ran out of beer and the world is still here ...WTF ? Now I have to buy more beer . I wish it would hurry up .
 
Right because President is the antiChrist :rolleyes:. That is stupid as me saying if Kerry would have been elected then the world would end...which it wouldn't have.
 
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