TVR 'targeting 5000 sales per year'

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Source: AutoCar

TVR is planning three new models and has a long-term goal of 5000 sales per year, despite its well-publicised decision to close its current base in Blackpool this summer.

In an exclusive report in tomorrow's Autocar (May 3), the firm's managing director David Oxley reveals that the firm's owner Nikolai Smolenski wants TVR to be able to make 5000 cars per year - more than double its highest ever output.

He also wants the new models to be sold in more foreign markets, such as Dubai, Malaysia and Singapore, and forthcoming emissions tests should make that possible.

The new models will fill the present positions of Sagaris, Tuscan and Cerbera. They will use revised versions of TVR's own six-cylinder engine, and an out-sourced V8. As shown below is the exclusive drawing of, the new 'TVR face' will retain the curvy styling that has featured on so many ofits recent models.

TVR has committed to leave its Bristol Avenue factory - which is still owned by the firm's former proprietor Peter Wheeler - but sources remain tight-lipped on whether its future plans will be based in the UK or overseas.

Image of one of the new models

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Also guys I post up the rest of the images, relating to the 3 new models later on.
 
Good news. The world needs at least one manufacturer like TVR. I'm not a big fan of the front of this new car though, the lights look a bit early-Speed 12ish and those air ducts for the brakes look a bit dodgy, IMO.

Taking bets on the source of the new V8? Chevrolet 5.7?

A little off-topic but still about TVRs...did you hear about/see the pic of the Sagaris that was apparently written off in Glasgow last week?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid205/p914737954c701a6eac2607e8c72455b2/ef3a3a8f.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/davestar73/tvr2.jpg
 
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Good news. The world needs at least one manufacturer like TVR. I'm not a big fan of the front of this new car though, the lights look a bit early-Speed 12ish and those air ducts for the brakes look a bit dodgy, IMO.

Taking bets on the source of the new V8? Chevrolet 5.7?

A little off-topic but still about TVRs...did you hear about/see the pic of the Sagaris that was apparently written off in Glasgow last week?

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid205/p914737954c701a6eac2607e8c72455b2/ef3a3a8f.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/davestar73/tvr2.jpg
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I reckon they will use either V8's from:

Mercedes-Benz
Aston Martin.

And people did not like the styling on the Sagairs, when they first saw it.

But I did, and after a while it grew on people. Oh and there is more info in the lastest AutoCar mag.

There is also talk of a more powerful supercar version to come out as well, which is most likely to be the Typhon. Aswell as another one I would have to say.

But I am glad TVR's are using the V8's again, maybe TVR may even use the all alloy Rover V8 that TVR used such a long time ago. While making it, more modem in new models.
 
I remember seeing early drawings for the Tuscan and the Sagaris, and the thing with TVR's, is their car's are so outlandish, the actaul real thing, often looks better than the concept art. Like with any car, I'll reseve proper judgment until I see it, properly. But even fom that sketch, it look's pretty decent to me, the air duckt look's like it's protruding outwards at first, but it's not, if you look at the one on the far side, it's just the shape of the vent, but as I said, I'll reserve full judgment for when I see a real one.

The future of TVR is a strange one to predict, they won't go out of business, not at 5000 models a year, that's i they sell in more market's, because I can see their being demand for that many. But if Nikolai want's to up that even more he might find he has to start making sort of TVR-lite model's, which wouldn't be good for the comany, though he could make them under a diffrerent badge, which I wouldn't mind seeng.

I doubt TVR will use the Rover V8, it's cost too much to update it and get it to a spec where they could sell in more region's, the idea of outsourcing the V8 and just updating the AJP6 is to cut costs down.
 
Im praying for a cosworth built V8 myself. It definrtly wont have a chevy V8 though as thats unlike TVR. Could be a ford engine though.
 
Yeah, it won't be a Chevy, it could be the Ford V8 as seen in the Marcos TSO, but that might need a lot of work to get the character right to work in a TVR. The only thing with that is, it wouldn't be a better performance engine, than the AJP6.
 
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He also wants the new models to be sold in more foreign markets, such as Dubai, Malaysia and Singapore, and forthcoming emissions tests should make that possible.
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No mention of the U.S.? Uggh... :grumpy: 👎
 
If your government didn't set such high restriction's, more nich car's from low volume companies would start appearing over there. That said, Smolenski is hoping to re-launch TVR over there at some point, probably not until the model lineup after this next one coming in.
 
Could they design the cars with the US laws in mind and allow people to independantly import them?

Seems a big task to hugely increase the sales. Perhaps a part time 4WD system is needed to keep the winter sales up?
 
No, a 4wd TVR is too against the grain so to speak, it'd be like a 4x4 Porsche or Lamborghini, oh hang on.

I think they are building a car to meet US law's, but it's not close to being done yet, they need to be careful, altering the car's too much could
annoy a lot of European TVR fan's.
 
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Yeah, it won't be a Chevy, it could be the Ford V8 as seen in the Marcos TSO
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....Ummm, the TSO uses a Corvette-Sourced 5.7L LS6 V8, not a Ford V8.

I could see TVR borrowing a V8 from the GM lineup. They are cheap, efficent, easy to modify, and easy to fix. Plus, if TVR gets wise, they can "pull a Noble" and ship engineless TVRs to the United States, thus qualifying them for kit-car status, and increasing their sales ever closer to 5000 units.
 
YSSMAN
....Ummm, the TSO uses a Corvette-Sourced 5.7L LS6 V8, not a Ford V8.
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You're right, in that case, I could see it using a Chevy V8, but I still think there's more chance of it using a Ford one. Either way, the character of the engine will need tweaking to match a TVR car.

and it would be superb if they used a Cosworth egine, for many reasons, British like TVR, and TVR's are currently all British part's, great track record for performance, extrememel well built, and can be built to spec, pretty ideal really.
 
They arn't not torque monsters either, the 390bhp Tuscan S produced 310ft lbs, the 420bhp Cerbera 4.5 produced 380ft lbs of torque, the 350bhp T350 produces 290ft lbs of torque. The AJP8 was a more torquey engine than the AJP6 is, but that's still a lot of torque.
 
The closest match is the AJP8 engine in the Cerbera 4.5 it has the same bhp and it's a V8 like RS4's, but the AJP8 produces 380ft lbs of torque, the RS4 produces 317ft lbs of torque. The AJP6's don't produce as high torque levels as the AJP8's, but also, none of the AJP6's mentioned, are as powerful as the RS4, if you compare the AJP6 tuned to 440bhp it produces 350ft lbs of torque, so the AJP6 is similar on parer to the RS4's V8 in power levels, but the two engine's aer insanely different in character.
 
If torque isnt an issue, they may be better off going with a Ford V8. Those engines lack just a bit in the torque department when compared to the GM V8 lineup, but they also lack the horsepower as well.

Any idea how much the TVR engines cost? It would be interesting to do a price comparison between that and a GM small-block, and a Ford small-block...
 
No, they build them in house and don't supply to anyone else so there's nothing to go on regarding what an AJP6 would cost on it's own. Should they ever supply any, they would probably cost more than the GM and Ford small block's since they're hand built and built in such low volume.

How much to thoes small block's go for?
 
Here are pictures from the articles in Autocar magazine:



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Larger version of second picture, as it's quite hard to read...

 
All I can say is that Im glad they have a future, instead of just going bust... As long as the retain the outrageous styling and improve build quality they are bound to do well...
 
Hmm, in some way's it a big step forwards, in other's it's a bit of a turn around, not a step backward's, but a different way of doing things. A big, BIG hint about TVR and the US market is that TVR will be offering the option of an automatic transmission on some of their models, it will be an option and all the model's will be manual unless otherwise specified, they will also include airbag's, this is a good thing, I was never a fan of the idea of no airbag's. Now the bit that concerns me, ABS and traction control, there is a possibility that they will be used on new model's, I've alway's like the idea that TVR's let you drive the car and nothing but you. Obviousely if they fit TCS and allow you to switch it off, then I'd be stupid to have a problem with that, but please for the love of god don't make it permanently on if you do fit it. For road use, it would be safer I'd be daft to say it's not a good thing for road use, but let's face it, if you buy a TVR your going to want to take it somewhere you can give it the full bean's, I'd hate to have that on for that.

The future does look good overall, and I have to say, after lookig at the picture in AutoCar I spent some time staring at it, I went from thinking it was good looking to interesting but not TVR, to hell yeah, that's cool, that fit's in with everything a TVR is meant to convery, it look's mean, but not ugly, well not imo anyway. Do I like the look, yes I do, but I'm still reserving judgment for when I see a proper one. The new car's will be meeting Euro 4 emissions and the factory may stay local, it may also move to Wales (that'd please Evan). There is a chance of it moving abroad, but I tihnk that's being looked at as a last option, production will end once they vacate the current factory until the new factory is up and running part way into next year. Expect to hear about the relocation in a couple of weeks.

Oh, and Smolenski is looking at Aston Marting level's of build quality, not luxury, but build quality. If he achieves that, TVR's future is not only bright, it's blinding.
 
The build quality is an important note. TVRs don't need to be lavished in leather and wood, but a nice carpet wouldn't be a bad thing :lol:

The new car's will be meeting Euro 4 emissions and the factory may stay local, it may also move to Wales (that'd please Evan).
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Visteon are supposed to be closing their plant in my area. It's nice and big with good links to the M4. Plus I'm sure they could ship cars out of Swansea docks. Perhaps I'll drop them a line.
 
Nothing's confrmed yet, that's specualtion coming from when Peter Wheeler praised Lee Noble for how he's got everything working very effiiciently with his company. There is a chance TVR will move abroad but there's a greater one that they';ll be staying here in the UK, but either way they won't be manufacturing in more than one place. They will however be outsourcing some part's to top level manufacturers to cut costs down, I don't know iof that's what you meant, but companies like Brembo might end up supplying the brakes etc.
 
Also any British company may supply there V8 to TVR, maybe Jaguar's modded version. Or even Lotus, but I would not bet on the old all alloy Rover V8 being made more modem and then used in the new models.

Which have V8's. But I would have to say the person that worked on the handling for the Sagaris, will work on the handling for the new TVR's. Aswell as the more pricey faster supercar is also building.

But there mean engine sounds, and light weight bodies will stay. Also G.T I scan those pages later today.
 
Isn't it a tenet of TVR philosophy that their cars are actually supposed to be SAFER without airbags (somewhat understandable) or traction control systems (er...)?
 
No, they've never claimed their car's are safer without airbag's, they've claimed their car's are safe enough without them, they pass crash tests really well, though any crash tests done are done normally by independant bodies, not TVR since TVR are exempt from crash testing thier car's due to the low volume. The traction control issue was down to the long travel lenth of the accelerator, the accelerator was less sensetive but had a longer travel, so again they didn't need traction control. However, for road use, I'd say traction control could be a benefit, on a track though, you'd just want it off regardless. Also thoes idea's we're from Wheeler, not Smolenski, regarding airbag's, that's a blatant plus, traction control is only a plus if it can be switched completely off, same with ABS.
 

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