F1: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly

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Ive always liked to hear other F1 fan's differing views and facts that i may know or may not know, so i'd like to see your opinions on F1 since it began.


Things like the cars which should never have been made, drivers that drove you up the wall or the great drivers, cars & other personnel. Anything from team colours to helmet designs i want to know your opinion.
I dont think theres been a thread like it, if there has been, tell me.

:)
 
Another joint idea 👍

well first off, I'd like to raise the subject of best looking GP cars!

here's one of my faves:


Very mean looking car
 






and i quite like this one..
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The good:

Super Aguri SA07: (There's a reason why that thing is in my signature. It's the best-liveried car I've seen for quite a while...)
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Wolf WR1 ('Cause she's a mean-lookin' bitch)
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The bad:

Tyrrell 019
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Benetton B191
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(As Blake explained, the Tyrrell's raised nosecone saw the start of a massive decrease in passing. The Benetton took the idea a step forward.)


The ugly:


Arrows A18, representing the whole batch of cars with those shipmast-cones. UGLY!
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Benetton B191
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(As Blake explained, the Tyrrell's raised nosecone saw the start of a massive decrease in passing. The Benetton took the idea a step forward.)

I am sorry but I think its just too cool. It sits so low.

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But the Mclarens of old take the cake I say.
 
Heh following Metar's method:

The Good

Honda RA107 Winter Testing:

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(Black is just so sexy on a F1 car..)

Honda RA106 'Turkey Special':

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(Sorry Metar but this is the best livery I have seen..)

The Bad

Brabham 1992:

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(Seriously?)

Minardi 2000:

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(The reason? To make every driver vomit in their helmets..)

The Ugly:

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(So ashamed of itself it didn't bother showing up at the first round!)
 
Another joint idea 👍

well first off, I'd like to raise the subject of best looking GP cars!

here's one of my faves:


Very mean looking car
Yes it is. Dunno if they were going for areodynamics from the looks of the design.

The good:

Super Aguri SA07: (There's a reason why that thing is in my signature. It's the best-liveried car I've seen for quite a while...)
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Agreed on that one. And I hear the team owner like to take one of them out for a lew laps sometimes.:D

Bee
Heh following Metar's method:

The Good

Honda RA107 Winter Testing:

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(Black is just so sexy on a F1 car..)

Honda RA106 'Turkey Special':

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(Sorry Metar but this is the best livery I have seen..)
Those liveries look good as well.;)👍 I dunno if anyone else has a different livery that they use for the off-season testing. Also re: the Turkey Special, was that in use for the Turkish Grand Prix or ony the testing on the track there?
 
Good: the Honda RA107's myeathdream livery (I always through F1 was too commercialised).
Bad: the Honda RA107's performance.
Ugly: Honda's decision not to fire RA107 designer Sheui Nakamoto.
Way Ugly: Ra;f Schumacher.
 
Yes it is. Dunno if they were going for areodynamics from the looks of the design.

They sure were gunning for aerodynamics - problem was, aerodynamics just started back then :lol:

That's the way a lot of cars back then were built - that's the aerodynamics they could build.

Agreed on that one. And I hear the team owner like to take one of them out for a lew laps sometimes.:D

I hope he doesn't crash them as much as he used to ;)

Aguri Suzuki wasn't the best driver in the world. In the legendary Brands Hatch GP in '93, he spun 3 times.

I dunno if anyone else has a different livery that they use for the off-season testing?

Super Aguri did it before the unveiling...
 
Those liveries look good as well.;)👍 I dunno if anyone else has a different livery that they use for the off-season testing. Also re: the Turkey Special, was that in use for the Turkish Grand Prix or ony the testing on the track there?

It was used only for the practice session of the 2006 Turkish GP, driven by Anthony Davidson.
 
Ahhh. Time to vent.

The good: It will get mentioned anyway, but I may as well be the first. The Lotus 79 / JPS Mk4. - the original Black Beauty. In my opinion the best looking racing car ever built. Also, that early raised nose Tyrell mentioned earlier: with Braun sponsorship, I thought that was also among the most beautiful F1 cars ever.

The more good: The history also, is good. I love reading about how the drivers in the 60s used to battle on, very brave and facing death or serious injury every time they got behind the wheel. Obviously the sport could not continue like that, but it certainly produced some unforgettable characters. Stories like Fangio's charge at The Nurburgring, Clark's comeback at Monza from a lap down. Stewart in the wet, again at the Nurb. Villeneuve on three wheels. Prost testing an F1 car for the first time - a McLaren (the team manager said something like this: "On the first lap, he cruised around getting used to the car. At the end of the second lap, he exited the last corner on full opposite lock. On his third lap, he matched Watson's best time in the same car. I didn't see what he did after that, because I was in the office looking for a contract..."). I love anecdotes like that and F1 is full of them.

The also good: Watching in car footage from the '60s, '70s and '80s, esp. in the wet. Can see just how hard those drivers used to work.

Even more good: The late '70s - mid '80s, when F1 cars really did look like the fastest wheeled vehicles on the planet. That was F1 as I enjoyed it.

And some other good: the practical jokes: Senna came out to find two boxing gloves holding the wheel of his McLaren at the next event after he punched Irvine. Button's mechanic changed the name on his car from J. Button to "Rachel's boyfriend" after he had been introduced as such at some event he attended with his then pop star girlfriend. Can't remember her name though, might not have been rachel.

The bad: Rules which allow the punishment to fit the TV ratings are just unsporting. It's all too close to being staged. It's like WWF meets LA Law on wheels, and they may as well save a lot of money and decide the championship result by public vote. They could hire Simon Cowell to judge GP Idol to decide the next champion so they don't have to lose TV generated income.

The ugly: One of the most competitive seasons for ages - a rookie takes on a double champion - and the FIA and teams still manage to f:censored: it up. I haven't watched the last two races, after 26 years of support (albeit on / off support this decade), the current season has been the final straw on my support. On Sunday I watched two dozen young and hungry drivers in equal cars battle eachother for national honour in A1 GP. The racing was tight all down the field. The overtaking was ballsy and skillful. Talent and commitment were apparent. The winner worked hard for his result and the racing was, to me, as close to Moto GP excitement as four wheels is going to get. They're racing for their country so it's easy to pick someone to support, and any driver can win if they are good enough on the day. In contrast, Ferrari apparently attempted to win their F1 race by fueling up and finishing last. :crazy:
 
And some other good: the practical jokes: Senna came out to find two boxing gloves holding the wheel of his McLaren at the next event after he punched Irvine. Button's mechanic changed the name on his car from J. Button to "Rachel's boyfriend" after he had been introduced as such at some event he attended with his then pop star girlfriend. Can't remember her name though, might not have been rachel.

I remember one story after Fernando had said that he was "alone at Renault" after the 2006 Chinese GP I think. The mechanics had change the name on his locker or whatever to "Fernando Aloneso" 👍.

I also remember a post- qualifying Press Conference with Schumi, Mika Häkkinen and Eddie Irvine where for some reason Eddie threw a couple of glasses of water on Mika and he started chasing Eddie with a whole jug and Michael was laughing during the whole thing. :)
 
I also remember a post- qualifying Press Conference with Schumi, Mika Häkkinen and Eddie Irvine where for some reason Eddie threw a couple of glasses of water on Mika and he started chasing Eddie with a whole jug and Michael was laughing during the whole thing. :)

👍 The good old days :P

& Alfaholic thats just the sort of response i wanted :D
 
Also, that early raised nose Tyrell mentioned earlier: with Braun sponsorship, I thought that was also among the most beautiful F1 cars ever.

I 100% agree with you here - the livery looks top notch (doesn't match the Aguri though :P). I categorized it as "The Bad", not "The Ugly". Bad, because of what it did, aerodynamically, to the sport.
 
The Good:
Sorry, I have a genetic requirment to post GV here, He deserves a place in 'The Good'

as does his beautiful 126 C2:


If this man doesn't desereve a place in 'the Good', ill shoot myself in the testicles


The bad:
nelson piquet
ok he was succesful, but he did moan an awful lot and was so, so bitterly jealous of senna being brazil's new hero

The Ugly:


I think alot will disagree, but that is what this thread is for :]
 
Oh My GOD!!! I just heard the greatest news since Räikkönen signed with Ferrari.

Our (Finnish) TV channel that broadcasts all the races has just announced that they will air a classic F1 race every weekend after the current season ends up until the season opener next year.

This includes races from 1982 - 2007.

By rough calculation, that is about 20 races :). And to think I once said it would be a long wait before the next season.

I am absolutely overjoyed, especially since today was a pretty bad day up until now.

I know it's sorta offtopic but it's a GOOD thing about F1 (for us Finns) 👍👍👍
 
I'll add one other category (the "different"), both in cars and drivers. Here goes my selection:

CARS


The good - Ferrari 312 T4

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The bad - Ferrari 312 T5

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the ugly - Ferrari 126 C

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The "different" - Lotus 88


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DRIVERS

The good - Jackie Stewart

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The bad - Michael Schumacher

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The ugly - Harald Ertl (one of the heroes that rescued Lauda in the Nurb)


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The "different" - Alfonso Antonio Vicente Eduardo Angel Blas Francisco de Borja Cabeza de Vaca y Leighton, 13th Earl von Majorada, 17th Marquis de Portago (biggest name in the history of F1 drivers :dopey:)

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The good - Ferrari 312 T4

The bad - Ferrari 312 T5

the ugly - Ferrari 126 C

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The first two look like they're the bloody same.

And the third isn't the worst. I can name you a few more modern Ferraris far, far worse-looking.
 
The first two look like they're the bloody same.

And the third isn't the worst. I can name you a few more modern Ferraris far, far worse-looking.

I know they look similar, but by "good" and "bad" I didn't refer to the look of the car. The first one was a world champion (the last until the Schumacher era), the second one was (one year after) one of the most dissapointing Ferraris ever built.
 

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