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JLBowler has already provided a general rule and expected behavior but, just so your certain about the rules, check out Section 7 in the SNAILOLR.
07: Corner Rights:

A:When approaching the turn/apex of turn, the car which "holds" the inner side of turn has entrance-advantage and other driver(s) must refrain from endangering him by his actions.
 
07: Corner Rights:

A:When approaching the turn/apex of turn, the car which "holds" the inner side of turn has entrance-advantage and other driver(s) must refrain from endangering him by his actions.

If you're going to quote then you might want to read and quote the entire section you were originally directed to. The first part of the section doesn't tell the entire story.

07: Corner Rights:

A: When approaching the turn/apex of turn, the car which "holds" the inner side of turn has entrance-advantage and other driver(s) must refrain from endangering him by his actions.
B:
You must establish substantial overlap with the car ahead before they reach the corner’s turn-in point to have the right to drive up their inside, or to expect them to leave inside room for you. At least the front of your car should be up to the driver’s position in the ahead car. The ahead driver has the right to be fully committed to the racing line of their choice without any interference if there was no substantial overlap before he turned in. The ahead driver must not abruptly change their line through a corner for any reason.
C:
If sufficient overlap is established before the turn-in point, then the behind driver has the right to sufficient side room. The ahead driver must also leave sufficient side room for the behind driver. This means that each driver has a right to their respective "line", or side of the track, right up to the exit point. Neither driver should squeeze the other toward the inside or outside of the corner during the apex or exit.
D:
The turn in point is the point at which the leading car begins their turn into the corner. This may vary from the point at which you turn into the corner.
E:
If an ahead driver has clearly made an error to warrant a passing move, a behind driver may attack their position, with due caution and care, regardless of whether there was any pre-existing overlap. However, the overtaking driver must still avoid contact. Small errors by the ahead driver may not necessarily justify a passing move. The ahead driver getting a bit out of shape at times doesn’t give you an automatic right to force a pass. You still have to pass safely and without undue contact. The ahead driver must not make any sudden changes to their line in an attempt to defend their position in this situation.
F:
Drivers are expected to set buttons up for side views as "I didn't see you" is not an excuse if you collide with another driver when racing.
 
Isn't this a SNAIL requirement? I read that in some text either in the OLR or instructions sent to me in one of the instructional PMs.

Also, is it just me or do the side indicators only flash when a car is really close to you? I was on the opposite side of the track but even with another car and no indicator flashed.

7F as quoted above pretty much covers it.

However, when I try to use those Left/Right buttons that I have set up ......... I must spend too much time watching (a brief glimpse doesn't reveal the edge of the front bumper that is moving ever so slightly into the view). Sooooo, I depend on the blind spotters to just inform me - then I make room regardless of where they might be.

With no peripheral vision (all windows in the car are covered with black except the windshield - imagine driving a real car that way?) ....... anyway, without the Map Enlargement we are at a definite handicap in tight races.

The proximity warnings are just that and I am pretty sure their implementation is one of the reasons there is no zooming of the map. It'll take some time, but if you're serious about taking responsibility for where your car is in relation to others, you will get used to relying more on swapping that view around over those side proximity indicators, which can be a bit misleading sometimes, especially when a car is tight on your bumper. While Vettel didn't have any such thing as view button mapping or proximity indicators, his awareness of what is going on around his car is perhaps the only reason he still has feet after Sunday's F1 race.
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Think about it, without having to move your head or your eyes, you can press a button and release and that picture will have been there for at least a few milliseconds and that should be enough for you to recognize what's where and base a decision on that information.
 
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Thank you, Sir Dragon, for the encouragement to "commit to use" the side buttons. Will make every attempt to develop that skill, starting at practice tonight.

Notice to all drivers around a white car:
Watch out for me to miss the next brake point for a while ....... I usually miss the following corner when I have tried the side button view previously.

Am being sincere, not sarcastic at all.
 
Try it like this Tex, instead of waiting on your braking point to take a look, peek the rear view well before your braking point to check if anyone is close enough to attack your position, if they are you will be much more prepared to take a defensive line or evasive action upon turn in. After you've had your peek, view forward, hit your braking point, another quick flick to the side view, (if there's time and need) and hit your turn in point.

Keep in mind, there is definite blind spot between the rear view and the side view that can hide an entire car. It sucks, but it's there, take appropriate precautions if you think someone is attacking and in that blind spot.
 
In case none of you have noticed....Les Vinght Quatre Heures du Mans training is underway. There is a GREAT app on the Le Mans web page that is very helpful for those of you who will be splitting ....virtual, real, and sorta real tv this weekend. Is that a split infinity or a split reality....happy viewing. Go Porsche and Rebellion...and mais certainment les Corvettes and not to be forgotten GTA drivers.
 
Nail, I must say that I did not understand a thing you said. Except a few "normal english words". But I'm sure many are much more in tune with things than I.
 
Thank you, Sir Dragon, for the encouragement to "commit to use" the side buttons. Will make every attempt to develop that skill, starting at practice tonight.

Notice to all drivers around a white car:
Watch out for me to miss the next brake point for a while ....... I usually miss the following corner when I have tried the side button view previously.

Am being sincere, not sarcastic at all.

It does take some getting used to, but as dragon mentioned the technique is to just press the look button very briefly. You don't have to look left or right long enough to understand whats going on. Just a quick peek and your brain will process what it saw a couple fractions of a second later while you're already looking back toward the front. Also, do it a good bit before your braking point. You'll get used to judging where a car is AT the breaking point by looking for it a hundred meters or so before.
 
@TEX36 , Something else you, and others, might try to get used to this view method is, jump in one of the longer Aspec races and instead of trying to beat the AI, get in a crowd of them and practice view swapping. It might be better than trying to get comfortable with it when racing against other humans, or aliens.
 
srsly now.... Who doesn't have a driving license here? flicking that left/right view button on your steering wheel is just like that glimpse of your blind spot how hard can that be .....
 
@TEX36 , Something else you, and others, might try to get used to this view method is, jump in one of the longer Aspec races and instead of trying to beat the AI, get in a crowd of them and practice view swapping. It might be better than trying to get comfortable with it when racing against other humans, or aliens.

Pardon my stupidity .......... What is an Aspec race? I presume it is a one-make practice race against the cars that the game puts on the track ..... and that we can usually outrun quite easily. Off-line rather than on-line.
Sorry if I, the Ancient One, am so slow on the uptake.
 
srsly now.... Who doesn't have a driving license here? flicking that left/right view button on your steering wheel is just like that glimpse of your blind spot how hard can that be .....
While driving a car, checking the blind spot still provides peripheral vision to the front. In my "blacked out race cars" there is no periphery when I "flick the side view".
Not being argumentative, or stubborn, just conversing on the subject.
Perhaps the thread should "move along" ....... I suspect other folks are tiring of the discussion.
 
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On a personal note, I've gotten so frustrated with this round. I've red lapped so many sub 2:18's, and I'm sitting at 2:19.05x. Not that I'd every make the finals, but I wanted to get a sub 2:18.5x. Oh well. Congrats to those doing well. A few more stressful days for those on the bubble....
 
stressful indeed. Soo many would be 15.4's that i screw up on final chicane. Not tackling it again until saturday, dang near all day.
Well okay, maybe tonight too, but wont be home friday or sunday at all. Would love to make it to new york
 
On a personal note, I've gotten so frustrated with this round. I've red lapped so many sub 2:18's, and I'm sitting at 2:19.05x. Not that I'd every make the finals, but I wanted to get a sub 2:18.5x. Oh well. Congrats to those doing well. A few more stressful days for those on the bubble....​

Well at least you aren't sitting .231 seconds off the gold time and Eau Rogue is a 🤬 with a DS3.
 
Well at least you aren't sitting .231 seconds off the gold time and Eau Rogue is a 🤬 with a DS3.
EAU ROUGE...NOW THERE IS A GREAT CORNER.

Yeah it's flat in fifth on the limiter....or not....nice prize car ...1 MIL...too many laps...but they will pay off the next time we race there.

And ....Trumpets and drums....1600 th in the US

Now there is something to ponder...don't think I'll put in my signature. But one drivers "ho hum" is another's YAHOO.

YAHOO....OLD 🤬 WINS !
 
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EAU ROUGE...NOW THERE IS A GREAT CORNER.

And ....Trumpets and drums....1600 th in the US

Now there is something to ponder...don't think I'll put in my signature. But one drivers "ho hum" is another's YAHOO.

YAHOO....OLD 🤬 WINS !
Well if that is 1600 out of 100,000 then be happy to be in the top 2%

Anyone know how many have run from the US? I would guess a lot less 50k but no real idea. I finally spent my first 15 minutes on round 4. Sighting lap earned silver. Third complete lap and am .02 off gold. Should be in the low 19's with 20-30 minutes more practice. My hat goes off to anyone under 2:17:cheers:
 

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