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Anybody want to jump in the loung ?
I heard some people say that the 458 Italia should not run Racing tires at all, but should have been on Sports tires. The harder tires do make the cars harder to drive and control which favors the more skilled drivers. But does it add to the experience when more of the field is spinning and suffering more contact as a result of reduced braking for instance. I just think that the racing is improved when more people have control of their car and the confidence to be as competitive as they can be
Ahh fellow Oregonians...I'm in Salem here!
I think Neil has hit the 'nail on the head' here with the whole tyre debate. The more skilled drivers do 'generally' prefer the lower grip tyre to add to the challenge, which will in turn make the driving experience no fun for some other drivers.
I know the league probably wouldn't want this, but maybe you could consider a tyre grade less for Divisions 1 and 2 over the existing scale?
I even like the idea of the person picking either the new car/track combo, or new car selection, has the tyre choice too
More fuel to the fire?
I have a question regarding the 'complaint' procedure, specifically line #2:
"Copy the driver you are filing a complaint against on the PM that is sent to your Chief Steward"
Maybe I had a few too many this long weekend but I'm finding the wording a bit confusing . Is it asking for a copy of the original complaint you send your Chief Steward to also be sent to the accused driver?
If we went with this scale, it would actually be two tire grades less over the existing tire scale, not just the one grade that you were asking for.
What are everyone's thoughts on this? I know it would require quite a bit of adjustment by many of us (especially me), but I think it's the next logical progression of our tire scale. 👍
I could get on board with Ap's scale because it is really two different scales, one for production cars and one for race cars. I would like to see the tuner cars, which really are track cars, included with the race cars. These cars have so many upgrades that they would be taken to the track with slicks on them. I'm referring to the stuff made by Amuse, Spoon, Gran Turismo, HKS, and the like.
My suggestion was a compromise, not what 'I' would want. I personally would like to see at 'least' a 2 tyre grade reduction, but I'm sure this won't suit a lot of drivers, we'll see.
I really don't see a problem with a promotion putting someone in with a faster group on 1 tyre grade less and it would only be from div 3 to 2 in my example that this would happen.
DrKroninInterestingly (to me, anyway) is that I live in Oregon, and my office is in Reston. If I'm not mistaken, that's pretty close to you. What part of Oregon are you from?
zer05iveYet another disadvantage would be during Wednesday night's practice races. We'd need to separate drivers into different rooms based on which tire scale they were using. However, that would be less of a problem if D1 and D2 were on the same tire scale (one practice room) and D3, D4, and D5 were on another tire scale (another practice room). In other words, we'd need two practice rooms to accommodate everyone, but that's something that we've done in the past anyways.
To play devil's advocate here: why does this "have to" be in different lounges? Since it is a practice, I know I would practice with my equipment, and you with yours. Even if I had a practice round with Tiger Woods, making him play with "my clubs to keep it even" is not going to change the purpose... To practice with my equipment. Nor would it change the outcome much, I suspect.
zer05iveThe bigger problem from my perspective would be having two separate tires scales being used on Sunday nights. It seems clear that many of the higher-division drivers support shifting to a less grippy tire and more "realistic" tire scale, but I'd like know how every one else feels about it. My strong preference would be to have the entire league on the same tire scale, but I'd like to hear more feedback from everyone.
Now I have only just joined this series but if you guys have been using this tire formula with success for all these months then why change it? The purists will get over it and still run their comfort hard rooms during the week. The people who like to race no matter what (like me) will still be happy as long as the racers are good people and fun to hang with. The novices seeking to get better will be happy because the tires are still challenging but not so much so that the fun is gone.
I vote same tires for all.
Now I have only just joined this series but if you guys have been using this tire formula with success for all these months then why change it? The purists will get over it and still run their comfort hard rooms during the week. The people who like to race no matter what (like me) will still be happy as long as the racers are good people and fun to hang with. The novices seeking to get better will be happy because the tires are still challenging but not so much so that the fun is gone.
It has been changed pretty recently. The last time we ran the S2000 it was on SS tires.
too funny! he was waiting to pounce for two hours!