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[JLBowler]

Prize A Vote Notification​

The nomination period is now closed. Thank you to everyone in D6 that suggested a Prize A combo.

The deadline to cast a vote is 5:30 PM Eastern Time today.

The list below is what was submitted.

1. KTM XBow Street @ Laguna Seca

2. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera @ Trial Mountain Reverse

3. BMW M5 ’05 @ Spa Francorchamps

4. Ford RS200 ’84 @ Matterhorn Rotenboden

5. Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro @ Willow Springs International

6. RUF RGT ’00 @ Circuito de Madrid Reverse

7. Shelby Cobra 427 S/R Chrome Line @ Circuito de Madrid


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Car Selection Guidelines
Dealership Cars - The maximum price for a selected car is now $1,000,000
DLC Cars - Only DLC cars that are FREE and currently still available in the PlayStation Store can be selected.

How would we as a group go about discussing and hopefully changing the maximum price to $1,250,000. ?
I figure with inflation this would only be a small cost of living increase. If you are grinding for $1,000.000, then an extra $250,000 is not that far of a reach. The extra bump would open many more cars.

Your thoughts?

As MajorBlixem said. 17 cars would be added and 3 of those have almost identical counterparts that are under 1 million.. With the cap at 1 million cr. we have 1089 cars to choose from.

Before anyone starts throwing out other numbers, I've done the research already.
1.5 M = 39 cars
1.75M = 54 cars
2.0 M = 84
2.5 M = 88
3.0 M= 92
no cap = 110

When and if it's time to raise the cap, the sensible move seems to be to go to 2 million as it would give the most bang for the buck. The issue with raising the cap is you have to consider the potential burden placed on a new member. With the cap at 2 million, we could be asking a new guy to run out and spend 6 million on cars for their first week and he might only use two of them the one time.

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

AudiPikes Peak quattro '03
4WD500 HP-- 630 Nm ? to ? W/Kg
1,250,000 Cr PP503

AudiNuvolari quattro '03
4WD592 HP-- 750 Nm ? to ? W/Kg
1,250,000 Cr

AudiLe Mans quattro '03
4WD601 HP1530 kg 750 Nm 293 to ? W/Kg
1,250,000 Cr PP573

FerrariGTO '84
MR382 HP1160 kg 500 Nm 246 to ? W/Kg
1,250,000 Cr PP516

Mercedes-Benz190 E 2.5 -16 Evolution II '92
FR365 HP980 kg -- 278 to ? W/Kg
1,250,000PP Cr 528

OpelCalibra Touring Car '94
4WD414 HP1040 kg 280 Nm 297 to ? W/Kg
1,250,000PP Cr 523

VauxhallCalibra Super Touring Car '94
4WD450 HP1060 kg 300 Nm 316 to ? W/Kg
1,250,000PP Cr 531

MazdaFurai '08
MR486 HP675 kg -- 538 to ? W/Kg
1,250,000PP Cr 656

CadillacCIEN '02
MR749 HP-- 610 Nm ? to ? W/Kg
1,250,000PP Cr 589

VolkswagenW12 Nardo '01
MR574 HP1300 kg 620 Nm 329 to ? W/Kg
1,250,000PP Cr 587

LamborghiniReventon '08
4WD630 HP1665 kg 660 Nm 282 to ? W/Kg
1,200,000PP Cr 551

McLarenF1 Stealth Model
MR641 HP1100 kg 657 Nm 435 to ? W/Kg
1,200,000 PP629

Mercedes-BenzCLK Touring Car '00
FR444 HP1000 kg -- 331 to ? W/Kg
1,150,000PP Cr 571

Ford2000 Ford Falcon XR8
FR599 HP1350 kg 623 Nm 331 to ? W/Kg
1,150,000PP Cr 594

HondaNSX GT500 Stealth Model
MR542 HP1100 kg 637 Nm 368 to ? W/Kg
1,100,000PP Cr 580

NissanGT-R GT500 Stealth Model
FR542 HP1050 kg 588 Nm 386 to ? W/Kg
1,100,000PP Cr 597
Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI '93
1,250,000. 524pp

Why not increase it to 5 million I just don't want to have to race the red bull challenge enough times to buy the 20 mil cars!

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

As MajorBlixem said. 17 cars would be added and 4 of those have almost identical counterparts that are under 1 million.. With the cap at 1 million cr. we have 1089 cars to choose from.

Before anyone starts throwing out other numbers, I've done the research already.
1.5 M = 39 cars
1.75M = 54 cars
2.0 M = 84
2.5 M = 88
3.0 M= 92
no cap = 110

When and if it's time to raise the cap, the sensible move seems to be to go to 2 million as it would give the most bang for the buck. The issue with raising the cap is you have to consider the potential burden placed on a new member. With the cap at 2 million, we could be asking a new guy to run out and spend 6 million on cars for their first week and he might only use two of them the one time.

lol I already buy the new cars every week anyways because it is easier then going into my garage and taking all my tuning parts off of them

 

[Falango]

This was brought up before. There are so many cars to choose from under $1000000. Some people aren't on much to earn money to buy cars each week.

That increase introduces more race cars than street cars, and in my opinion, street cars give us better quality racing.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Of all the cars listed when going up to 1,250,000 cr., I only want to race the Mercedes-Benz190 E 2.5 -16 Evolution II '92

 

[pkenuelo]

I vote for

3. BMW M5 ’05 @ Spa Francorchamps

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

Question: I believe I read that If gt gives you the car for free does that mean that cars like the redbull standard, lotus F1, redbull junior and all the visions are available for picking?

 

[aerolite]

I vote for:

4. Ford RS200 ’84 @ Matterhorn Rotenboden

 

[Falango]

Of all the cars listed when going up to 1,250,000 cr., I only want to race the Mercedes-Benz190 E 2.5 -16 Evolution II '92

I'd love to race that car too. I mentioned it in a practice room a while back but didn't realize the price.

Question: I believe I read that If gt gives you the car for free does that mean that cars like the redbull standard, lotus F1, redbull junior and all the visions are available for picking?

Im not at my PS3 now, but some of the VGT cars are $1000000 but some are higher right? Earning them in seasonals for free is temporary (I actually missed a few), so I can't expect the ones worth more than $1000000 (if there are any) are eligible.

 

[Falango]

Double post

 

[SGETI]

the bump to 2 million is a big leap for some. Like you said the potential burden would be 6 million. That's if we as a group chose all 2 million dollar cars, which is unlikely. I am thinking small increases, hardly noticeable. Those who do grind may have to do only one more race for 250,000.

 

[JLBowler]

Question: I believe I read that If gt gives you the car for free does that mean that cars like the redbull standard, lotus F1, redbull junior and all the visions are available for picking?

You did not read that. You might have read that any DLC car that is currently available in the PS store can be selected. That statement really goes back to GT5 and will apply if there is ever any DLC run through the store for GT6.

As far as the vision cars go. They are all 1 million with the exception of the Mercedes Benz Race Version.

I'll say it again. When and if the cap is raised, it will be raised to 2 million credits. This has been discussed many times over in the past and there is no change coming in the immediate future.

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

You did not read that. You might have read that any DLC car that is currently available in the PS store can be selected. That statement really goes back to GT5 and will apply if there is ever any DLC run through the store for GT6.

As far as the vision cars go. They are all 1 million with the exception of the Mercedes Benz Race Version.

I'll say it again. When and if the cap is raised, it will be raised to 2 million credits. This has been discussed many times over in the past and there is no change coming in the immediate future.

thats why I asked Because to interpret it to GT6 would the lotus F1 and redbull's not be a class of DLC since they aren't giving us DLC for gt6.(so far) and you can Win them for free through GT. I'm looking for clarification or if you wish a way to bend the rules. As i would like to race the Redbull standard with a full grid

 

[JLBowler]

thats why I asked Because to interpret it to GT6 would the lotus F1 and redbull's not be a class of DLC since they aren't giving us DLC for gt6.(so far) and you can Win them for free through GT. I'm looking for clarification or if you wish a way to bend the rules. As i would like to race the Redbull standard with a full grid

Those cars are not and were never available in the PS store so how exactly would you apply that statement to GT6 and have it allow those cars to be exempt from the cap? The only way you might stretch it would be to consider them free but then you have to assume that everyone has done those events and won the cars or has the ability to win those cars. That's too much assuming. The cap is all about accessibility, especially to new members.

 

[Dragonwhisky]

The first thing to do is classify DLC. Downloadable content is content that is optional for the user to obtain. Under that definition there has been no DLC issued for GT6, as all content is made available through updates and patches you must get to continue to play online. None of the content (meaning cars, tracks, paints and parts) which wasn't in the original release is optional. If you update the game you will get the content. It's not DLC.

 

[SGETI]

I'll say it again. When and if the cap is raised, it will be raised to 2 million credits. This has been discussed many times over in the past and there is no change coming in the immediate future.

I was not aware this has recently been discussed and is a closed issue.

 

[JLBowler]

The first thing to do is classify DLC. Downloadable content is content that is optional for the user to obtain. Under that definition there has been no DLC issued for GT6, as all content is made available through updates and patches you must get to continue to play online. None of the content (meaning cars, tracks, paints and parts) which wasn't in the original release is optional. If you update the game you will get the content. It's not DLC.

You have to split it even further. It's all DLC. Downloadable Content is any content that is downloaded. This is where the split comes in. There is paid DLC which GT6 does not have and there is free add on DLC which GT6 has plenty of. In the case of GT6, the add on DLC is additional content that is being added to the game free of charge by PD. Some of this content is added directly to the players garage and some still has to be earned or purchased with in game credits. The only reason this content is mandatory to download is that you must have the current version of the game to play online. This doesn't mean that patches and free add on items are not DLC. They are just not paid for.

For anything that has to be earned or purchased with in game credits, the credit cap will apply. The bottom line is that you have to be able to obtain the car right now for 1 million in game credits or less and winning it doesn't count because it's no guarantee that everyone can win it.

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

Those cars are not and were never available in the PS store so how exactly would you apply that statement to GT6 and have it allow those cars to be exempt from the cap? The only way you might stretch it would be to consider them free but then you have to assume that everyone has done those events and won the cars or has the ability to win those cars. That's too much assuming. The cap is all about accessibility, especially to new members.

The first thing to do is classify DLC. Downloadable content is content that is optional for the user to obtain. Under that definition there has been no DLC issued for GT6, as all content is made available through updates and patches you must get to continue to play online. None of the content (meaning cars, tracks, paints and parts) which wasn't in the original release is optional. If you update the game you will get the content. It's not DLC.

well seeing as this is defiantly a non issue and obviously getting shot down right away i'll drop it

 

[TEX36]

I vote for #3 - if I am posting it in time.

3. BMW M5 ’05 @ Spa Francorchamps

 

[whatbadgerseat]

I vote #4

 

[Wolfsatz]

I vote #4

Remind me again how Ties are handled when voting occurs?

 

[JLBowler]

Remind me again how Ties are handled when voting occurs?

I haven't voted yet. There will not be a tie. It's the perk of doing all the leg work to compile the suggestions and count the votes and double check that everyone who is voting did in fact race on Sunday.

 

[Schmiggz]

Hey @Schmiggz, stop trying to sway the vote. We get it. You want the Ruf.

What? Can't joke around either?

 

[CoachMK21]

What? Can't joke around either?

Once is a joke, 4 times gets annoying.

 

[ExoSphere64]

I vote for #3 - if I am posting it in time.

3. BMW M5 ’05 @ Spa Francorchamps

I'll have the same please...

 

[nmcp1]

Remind me again how Ties are handled when voting occurs?

Someone's keeping a close eye as well I see...

 

[Schmiggz]

Once is a joke, 4 times gets annoying.

Don't read it...

 

[Wolfsatz]

Someone's keeping a close eye as well I see...

I'm just undecided. 2 very tempting options!

 

[racingchamp30]

I vote for

2. Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera @ Trial Mountain Reverse

 

[JLBowler]

I'll have the same please...

I'm assuming on your vote. Could you please vote without quoting another's vote to make it official.