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New PB hurray me! And she stays! Long live le sarthe :)
 

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Just remember that if someone were to knock the pylons down on lap one and then run over where they used to be, it could be viewed as an intentional act and would no longer be a 1 point penalty but a minimum of 17 points.

Choose your strategy wisely.

The safest course of action is to not hit the pylons at all.

Right. My comment was from the perspective of a different driver.
 
Based on a couple of the IRs already filed this week, I'm just going to leave this here for everyone to review. I pretty sure that nothing happened an hour into a race on Sunday night. Pay attention to what information you're entering and save the stewards from having to decipher what you really mean.

Instructions on how to accurately report time stamps in an IR.

The Form asks for time in Hours, Minutes and Seconds. No tenths, hundredths or thousandths are required.
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From a replay, at the top right corner of the screen is the race time. Enter this value from as close to the beginning of the incident as possible.
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SNAIL Sunday races will never exceed an hour. That field should always be 0. The race time shown above would be entered as shown in the next picture.
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It's probably better to continue racing and having fun racing all the other good racers in the league. Leading by example of good racecraft and filing IRs when necessary. Bad habits don't often change unless they are brought to light and dealt with. Hope you change your mind but best of luck to you either way:cheers:
 
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This is awesome. The Oculus imagery is mixed with the over-the-shoulder view in post production.


This is what I'm waiting for. I don't think I would be 100% sold in VR until AR can be implemented through the VR screen in live time. This is about as good as it gets.
 
Sorry to see this :(. I feel your frustration, it's understandable when some try to race and drive clean and hard. Only to then watch others disregard rules so they can "win". Please explain to me how winning even counts when you DON'T earn the respect of your peers, secretly make enemies and are looked down upon for being ignorant,dirty and disrespecful on track? that doesn't sound like winning (unless your charlie sheen).

This is a big topic of discussion. Not looking for answers here just a simple statement.

conclusion: WE ALL NEED TO REVIEW THE OLR rules now and then to keep it fresh in our minds EVEN CLEAN RACERS. And some Sadly, need it tattooed on their forehead. But hey, what ever works!
 
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This is what I'm waiting for. I don't think I would be 100% sold in VR until AR can be implemented through the VR screen in live time. This is about as good as it gets.

wholly crap!! i got goose bumps watching that! is that really VR ? its unreal I didn't think it would be that nice right out of the gates.....dam! i can't wait. I'm a ten year old kid a christmas....so cool! this will change online racing for ever!
 
This league needs clean racers like you. We had many many battles over the last few years. Some drivers you can trust to go door-to-door.You know they won't leave their line. You're one of them. I was right behind you when the incident happened on Sunday. IMHO you should handle this through IR and be back next Sunday. We don't want to lose drivers like you.
 
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wholly crap!! i got goose bumps watching that! is that really VR ? its unreal I didn't think it would be that nice right out of the gates.....dam! i can't wait. I'm a ten year old kid a christmas....so cool! this will change online racing for ever!

That video is a post production mashup of the VR visual and another camera that "sees" the driver. VR in its infancy will not be like this I don't think, but it needs to be. I want to see my own hands/wheel etc.
 
That video is a post production mashup of the VR visual and another camera that "sees" the driver. VR in its infancy will not be like this I don't think, but it needs to be. I want to see my own hands/wheel etc.
It's actually not as far off as you might think. Checkout Microsoft's hololens.
 
It's actually not as far off as you might think. Checkout Microsoft's hololens.
Slightly different from hololens, hololens is sort of the opposite composite, where the majority of what you see is real life with just some generated elements overlayed on it. The video shows the primary video being the generated gameplay, with real life elements (from a camera I guess) overlayed ontop of the video. Similar but definitely different.
 
This league needs clean racers like you. We had many many battles over the last few years. Some drivers you can trust to go door-to-door.You know they won't leave their line. You're one of them. I was right behind you when the incident happened on Sunday. IMHO you should handle this through IR and be back next Sunday. We don't want to lose drivers like you.

Thanks Major...I appreciate it. I'll give it some thought...
 
We haven't raced together in while but I've always enjoyed racing with you. You have always been a respectful driver and do the right thing when incidents arise. I know it's really frustrating when you have practiced all week to get the best out of a combo only to have it ruined in the first lap or two. Stuff happens but when it does the offending driver should concede as a sign of good sportsmanship.
To echo everyone else's sentiment: we need guys like you to stick around. It certainly wouldn't be much of a league if all the respectful drivers quit because of one or two bad bannanas. Use the IR process and let the stewards sort it out. I really hope you reconsider.
 
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We haven't raced together in while but I've always enjoyed racing with you. You have always been a respectful driver and do the right thing when incidents arise. I know it's really frustrating when you have practiced all week to get the best out of a combo only to have it ruined in the first lap or two. Stuff happens but when it does the offending driver should concede as a sign of good sportsmanship.
To echo everyone else's sentiment: we need guys like you to stick around. It certainly wouldn't be much of a league if all the respectful drivers quit because of one or two bad bannanas. Use the IR process and let the stewards sort it out. I really hope you reconsider.
I'd second and third and fourth the sentiment that has been expressed by others here to you @CanuckleheadII.
If the good drivers get frustrated and leave, SNAIL dies. It is frustrating, as Tom says, it pisses you off, especially because I think most of us come to race in order to have fun and relax, after using precious time that could go somewhere else for practice.
But if the good and respectful people leave, then the whole point of SNAIL is lost.
I've always looked at crap moves on track as our version of mechanical failure or unforeseen circumstances that take place in real life racing. Sometimes you go in thinking you're going to kick ass but stuff happens.
The IR system does work. People either shape up or ship out. There are many examples, both in real life and here in SNAIL, of drivers that were horrible but after getting hit with penalties, they get themselves under control and learn. Some even are now considered very good and considerate. I'll tell you that when I started in SNAIL, I had no idea what I was doing and got talked to a lot, because I thankfully did my worst in practice. Slowly I learned the SNAIL way and now cannot stomach to race any other way, and I keep preaching the Gospel of SNAIL whenever I meet an infidel on my virtual racing travels.
You are one of the good ones, please hold on and let the very capable Steward Corps take care of it for you.
 
I wish there was a way to bring attention to race night IR's at the close of sundays race night. Part of the frustration for a lot of people is the appearance of people who exhibited poor race craft, for a moment anyways, getting to sit on the podium and look victorious. Whilst others who feel they should have been raising the cup sit in pit lane fuming and annoyed at what just happened.

It would be a great feature if for example someone who stole 1st place for the night had a red flag attached to his cup that he's holding up so victoriously. A visual way of saying hey everyone this guy might win but he has some IR's filed against him so its not official. I know we do this behind the scenes. But some how it feels hollow unjust. I mean, why is the potential bad racer initially rewarded "on camera" while the possible true victor has to wait and is then rewarded behind the scenes with very little awareness. The only way the true winner of the night is brought to light is by someone having to bring it up over the next few days. Hardly a victors way of celebrating.
"hey everyone, remember that race where road hog got first place last sunday?", "
well he didn't really win I actually did yah me!" :(

potentially poor race craft winners should be flagged on top of waiting for the official word after IR's and then announcements for the actual winners should be done. To praise hard clean driving and to further discourage poor race craft.

I know this is small and some what trivial. But it's the little things that can make a difference sometimes. :) hope this makes sense to more people then just me.
 
I wish there was a way to bring attention to race night IR's at the close of sundays race night. Part of the frustration for a lot of people is the appearance of people who exhibited poor race craft, for a moment anyways, getting to sit on the podium and look victorious. Whilst others who feel they should have been raising the cup sit in pit lane fuming and annoyed at what just happened.

It would be a great feature if for example someone who stole 1st place for the night had a red flag attached to his cup that he's holding up so victoriously. A visual way of saying hey everyone this guy might win but he has some IR's filed against him so its not official. I know we do this behind the scenes. But some how it feels hollow unjust. I mean, why is the potential bad racer initially rewarded "on camera" while the possible true victor has to wait and is then rewarded behind the scenes with very little awareness. The only way the true winner of the night is brought to light is by someone having to bring it up over the next few days. Hardly a victors way of celebrating.
"hey everyone, remember that race where road hog got first place last sunday?", "
well he didn't really win I actually did yah me!" :(

potentially poor race craft winners should be flagged on top of waiting for the official word after IR's and then announcements for the actual winners should be done. To praise hard clean driving and to further discourage poor race craft.

I know this is small and some what trivial. But it's the little things that can make a difference sometimes. :) hope this makes sense to more people then just me.
I imagine that the problem with doing anything before the Stewards have their say is that there are many IRs that never become penalties, so there would be a lot of wins under suspicion that wouldn't turn into anything.
 
Slightly different from hololens, hololens is sort of the opposite composite, where the majority of what you see is real life with just some generated elements overlayed on it. The video shows the primary video being the generated gameplay, with real life elements (from a camera I guess) overlayed ontop of the video. Similar but definitely different.
Maybe. But itnhas the ability to completely block out the physical world, and has the ability to scan a room accurately. This could very easily be used to track your hands, even show your real hands and body, augmented with racing suits and gloves
 
I imagine that the problem with doing anything before the Stewards have their say is that there are many IRs that never become penalties, so there would be a lot of wins under suspicion that wouldn't turn into anything.
Shifting the focus a tad......
That is a big reason for not bringing up incidents in the thread or in the race lobby on Sunday night's.
More than once an incident filed is not an incident at all, or maybe it's caused by something other than what was seen in the heat of the moment while racing.
There seams to be growing problem with racers being involved in an on track incident, have a melt down and go on a tirade in the middle of the night's races. At no point on Sunday night should anyone take their Mic off mute to discuss an incident on track or fellow racer. At no point should anyone make posts in the main thread or in divisional threads about incidents or about other racers. There is a formal way of dealing with these issues, so use it.
 
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