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- SAMHAIN85
Nope even after reinstalling the game I'm stuck at 390million credits and that "developer menu". And then loading a previous save file off the cloud from 12/23/17 yields 0credits and 0mileage credits and it doesnt budge. It seems I'm in a very small minority of users effected by it. Harry is helping me try to fix it but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel and come to grips with starting the game from scratch. Pretty wack.
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- Big Stone Gap
- Raw10_2u
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- Ocho Rios
- Marcus__Garvey
Well said. đź‘Ť
I agree that practice should be practice. I'm obviously a bit out of the loop lately, however in the past the vibes were always different between the impromptu and official practice sessions. I rarely attended Thirsty Thursday or Wrecker Wednesday, but I used to frequent the unofficial practice rooms quite a bit. Typically, there would be quite a wide range of divisions and pace, and it changed how I would drive compared to a proper competitive race.
I would typically go out and run a couple of laps at pace so that folks could get a replay or two to snag. At or after the midpoint of the race I would pull off and let the field pass. From there, I would work my way back through the field which gave other drivers the opportunity to deal with traffic, passing opportunities, and the less than ideal lines necessary to complete them. Sometimes I would sort of dwell mid-pack which gave others the opportunity to setup and make passes, deal with obstructed views, etc. While a poor idea for a proper 'race' whether it be a practice race or otherwise (see Lessen's post,) I think it may have provided some benefit to others. That, and the up close lead-follow that occurs in traffic can also be beneficial to some drivers that they don't get in multi-division races where folks just drive away. Then I would go on to ramble for hours about each dip and crack in the surface and how to capitalise upon the relationship between the car and track to achieve your best lap times. That may have just confused and annoyed folks, though.
Lastly, no horse in these races: but I do feel there is a place for both the official practice(s) where folks are expected to be prepared and behave as it were the real deal, as well as some more focused but perhaps less orthodox sessions to address other needs.
- 1,283
- Big Stone Gap
- Raw10_2u
Well said. đź‘Ť
I agree that practice should be practice. I'm obviously a bit out of the loop lately, however in the past the vibes were always different between the impromptu and official practice sessions. I rarely attended Thirsty Thursday or Wrecker Wednesday, but I used to frequent the unofficial practice rooms quite a bit. Typically, there would be quite a wide range of divisions and pace, and it changed how I would drive compared to a proper competitive race.
I would typically go out and run a couple of laps at pace so that folks could get a replay or two to snag. At or after the midpoint of the race I would pull off and let the field pass. From there, I would work my way back through the field which gave other drivers the opportunity to deal with traffic, passing opportunities, and the less than ideal lines necessary to complete them. Sometimes I would sort of dwell mid-pack which gave others the opportunity to setup and make passes, deal with obstructed views, etc. While a poor idea for a proper 'race' whether it be a practice race or otherwise (see Lessen's post,) I think it may have provided some benefit to others. That, and the up close lead-follow that occurs in traffic can also be beneficial to some drivers that they don't get in multi-division races where folks just drive away. Then I would go on to ramble for hours about each dip and crack in the surface and how to capitalise upon the relationship between the car and track to achieve your best lap times. That may have just confused and annoyed folks, though.
Lastly, no horse in these races: but I do feel there is a place for both the official practice(s) where folks are expected to be prepared and behave as it were the real deal, as well as some more focused but perhaps less orthodox sessions to address other needs.
That "rambling" made me take a different perspective all together,as did those "impromptu" sessions with drivers from various divisions sharing info and purposely bringing the field together mid race (yellow flag/reverse grid) to give everyone various opportunities/perspectives from which to draw "real world" knowledge to apply to Sundays race or practice.I know some drivers who really benefited from these exercises!
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- Tejas
This is the boat im in right now. While I feel good about running decently fast laps (by myself) I become a "wreck" when I get around other drivers. I dont want to ruin someones race on account of my bad driving, lose concentration after small mistakes which leads to big mistakes. This is the kind of practice I need most.
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- Saskatchewan
- DUB-L-DEE
Honestly, I'm too slow to for Thursday nights, and I seem to be in the way more than I'm not. I know it's just practice, but I really do feel pressured to run faster to avoid the other, faster, drivers from having to avoid hitting me, and usually the end result is me hitting someone else. Yeah, yeah I know.....I've heard it a hundred times "it's the faster drivers responsibility to make a clean pass".....That's all fine and dandy but it doesn't change the fact that you have slower drivers out there in the same field as some very fast drivers, who normally aren't used to each others driving habits. It would be kinda like Nascar allowing all their divisions to practice with each other. I would love to see divisional practice lobbies, but I understand if that's too much of a challenge logistically. Just my opinion, and 2 cents worth!
JLBowler
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- JLBowler
Divisional practice rooms should probably make a return. It would serve a couple of purposes:
1. Balance the speed of drivers better than it is with drivers from all divisions together.
2. Shrink the field, which is just fine for practice especially if people are going to show up without having run a lap.
You are not going to get a good experience having 14 plus on track from all four divisions with at least half (a guess) of them that haven't run a lap before that night. Then you top that by putting the fast guys in the back of the field for a sprint race in half the races. That's not a good formula. You split into two rooms, one for D1-2 and the other for D3-4, and you get the benefits listed above.
1. Balance the speed of drivers better than it is with drivers from all divisions together.
2. Shrink the field, which is just fine for practice especially if people are going to show up without having run a lap.
You are not going to get a good experience having 14 plus on track from all four divisions with at least half (a guess) of them that haven't run a lap before that night. Then you top that by putting the fast guys in the back of the field for a sprint race in half the races. That's not a good formula. You split into two rooms, one for D1-2 and the other for D3-4, and you get the benefits listed above.
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- socal
- SAMHAIN85
I'm all for the idea of having 2 segregated lobbies if were overflowing. I know in the past you guys had multiple prac lobbies for separate divisions but as membership dropped you consolidated it down to 1. I feel bad for the late comers that can't join because it's full, perhaps with a couple slots being used by non-members. As much as I enjoy racing in a full lobby, racing with 8 others in or around your division is a closer replication of the Sunday night experience imo. And then as the night goes on and people start dropping, narrowing it down to 1 lobby makes sense. Just my 2c. See you guys tonight
I made this post last summer when we were at these same crossroads. It was after multiple weeks of Thursday practice being full and members being locked out because of it.
Last week we had a full room for most of the night which I was very happy to see. Its been a long time coming. And as each week passes were growing and growing which is awesome. But if last week was any indication of the future then were going to have people excluded from practice because the single lobby is full again.
I still stand by what I wrote. With Thursday being "official" practice, wouldnt it make sense to replicate situations youll experience on Sunday? I'm not going to run into any D4 guys on Sunday night and they wont be running into any D1 guys either. Practicing with your fellow competitors you'll find come race night is the best practice you'll come across imo. They are the ones you'll be battling. A D1/D2 lobby and a D3/D4 lobby.
Now any other night is a different story. I love racing with everyone in SNAIL no matter how fast or slow. Racing with everyone from D1 to D4 is fun, and we are all striving to make less mistakes and work on our race craft. And in the process we build camaraderie. And everyone that knows me knows that Ill be the first to call for a yellow, or pull to the side if I jump out to a big lead, or call for a restart when a member joins during our first lap. I enjoy the side by side racing with everyone! But when it comes to "official practice" I think its more beneficial to everyone if you're racing against division mates.
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- Tampa, Fl
- Ice_Warden
I will never say that because it’s practice it’s ok to crash into people. I know every time I get run into I am screaming “wtf!” in my head. And I am sure you all feel that way.
Even in practice races, if you get hit off track, the pack is gone and there is no one left to race with for the remainder of the race. So that’s super fun
My pre race ritual is to hop on before the race starts by myself and get in 5-8 laps on each combo to, at the very least, familiarize myself with them before all the action starts.
Now this is ALL I do, and the results reflect that. But for you guys that practice Thursday nights, just do what I do before practice nights and you will avoid pissing people off because you have no idea where to turn or brake.
You should be ashamed of running into people because you don’t know where you’re going. It’s selfish and disrespectful.
Even in practice races, if you get hit off track, the pack is gone and there is no one left to race with for the remainder of the race. So that’s super fun
My pre race ritual is to hop on before the race starts by myself and get in 5-8 laps on each combo to, at the very least, familiarize myself with them before all the action starts.
Now this is ALL I do, and the results reflect that. But for you guys that practice Thursday nights, just do what I do before practice nights and you will avoid pissing people off because you have no idea where to turn or brake.
You should be ashamed of running into people because you don’t know where you’re going. It’s selfish and disrespectful.
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- socal
- SAMHAIN85
And just to add..I guess it all depends what you're looking to get out of practice in the first place. I'm looking to improve my times from yesterday and go as fast as I can (safely) Others may have a different mind set, and they're content with just getting out there and running laps and having fun with the boys. Which is totally fine, and thats the reason I enjoy the Mango rooms. Its a kick back atmosphere and no one is playing for keeps. But on "official practice" night I'm going as fast as I can. If you beat me you beat me fair and square, because in my mind I'm racing like I would on Sunday night.
If you're looking for more of a kickback relaxed atmosphere of practice I suggest getting together with those OMG misfits. They know how to have a good time
If you're looking for more of a kickback relaxed atmosphere of practice I suggest getting together with those OMG misfits. They know how to have a good time
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I vote brands hatch
Practice how u like ... but don’t come complain if u don’t practice ( not saying someone is ) and if u always race people that you have a chance to beat them you’ll never be faster than the ones you don’t have a chance to beat.
Race clean ,race hard ,
“ I ...if your not makeing mistakes with braking , hitting the apex, and almost crashing your not pushing hard enough”!!!
Practice how u like ... but don’t come complain if u don’t practice ( not saying someone is ) and if u always race people that you have a chance to beat them you’ll never be faster than the ones you don’t have a chance to beat.
Race clean ,race hard ,
“ I ...if your not makeing mistakes with braking , hitting the apex, and almost crashing your not pushing hard enough”!!!
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- socal
- SAMHAIN85
The votes are in! The VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE GR.3 on RH tires will be heading to:
Dragon Trail - Seaside
10:15 FINE WEATHER
1:39 mid div lap time
A closer look at the votes:
Dragon Trail - Seaside - 9 votes
@DublDee @Raw10_2u @spidermonkey @Kgffy @Grandpa Money @socalnatv @fzappa @soundtiger95 @Pedro or Sean
Nurburgring GP - 7 votes
@Harry Rowley @BradESPN @GTPvw_slc @FREEREVN @Tecticles @llNovall @Adramike
Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit - 5 votes
@nmcp1 @Wolfsatz @TVV0_ @SAMHAIN85 @xLockex
Tokyo Expressway - Central Outer Loop - 4 votes
@Rednose58 @Machinist @Die_Birdy_Die @McQCHL
Willowsprings International Raceway: Big Willow - 1 vote
@Oshawa-Joe
Suzuka - 1 vote
@IceWarden
Broad Bean Raceway - 1 vote
@TomMang_68....
Dragon Trail - Seaside
10:15 FINE WEATHER
1:39 mid div lap time
A closer look at the votes:
Dragon Trail - Seaside - 9 votes
@DublDee @Raw10_2u @spidermonkey @Kgffy @Grandpa Money @socalnatv @fzappa @soundtiger95 @Pedro or Sean
Nurburgring GP - 7 votes
@Harry Rowley @BradESPN @GTPvw_slc @FREEREVN @Tecticles @llNovall @Adramike
Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit - 5 votes
@nmcp1 @Wolfsatz @TVV0_ @SAMHAIN85 @xLockex
Tokyo Expressway - Central Outer Loop - 4 votes
@Rednose58 @Machinist @Die_Birdy_Die @McQCHL
Willowsprings International Raceway: Big Willow - 1 vote
@Oshawa-Joe
Suzuka - 1 vote
@IceWarden
Broad Bean Raceway - 1 vote
@TomMang_68....
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I will never say that because it’s practice it’s ok to crash into people. I know every time I get run into I am screaming “wtf!” in my head. And I am sure you all feel that way.
Even in practice races, if you get hit off track, the pack is gone and there is no one left to race with for the remainder of the race. So that’s super fun
My pre race ritual is to hop on before the race starts by myself and get in 5-8 laps on each combo to, at the very least, familiarize myself with them before all the action starts.
Now this is ALL I do, and the results reflect that. But for you guys that practice Thursday nights, just do what I do before practice nights and you will avoid pissing people off because you have no idea where to turn or brake.
You should be ashamed of running into people because you don’t know where you’re going. It’s selfish and disrespectful.
Colleagues,
I barely get time to practice on the PlayStation due to family and work commitments. I need to share how and what the practice session means to me, and how it’s relative to our operation and the OLR. I see the Thursday night session as a committed practice and should be. I enjoy the challenge of mixed divisional drivers in the room, and by no means do the challenges of etiquette come from less experienced drivers. Some drivers within the group can be habitual hard hitters. I know I’ve had my fair share these past two months. I do save my replays from Thursday night races, I use this to analyze my track position and times, and watch those who seem to get a time a second faster on the second lap, with no practice (SAMHAIN).
When you feel that you’ve been unfairly pushed off track, with zero concession made, it becomes really frustrating. I would hope that each driver in the practice room would drive with the same etiquette and belief that they ARE racing on a Sunday evening. To hold up the thought of driving as not to receive a penalty. The better drivers will often and do find their way through the field cleanly. I have been hit numerous times, by the same driver over a single evening, with zero concessions made. Then on the flip side, there are team members who go above and beyond and drive with incredible etiquette week in, week out, regardless of the division they race amongst. I’d love to drop your names in here for showing great sportsmanship.
I want to participate and hold myself accountable to this team, and attempt to practice cleanly each night of the week when we represent Snail as a group. It’s never gonna be perfect, but it needs to reflect what this group is trying to achieve.
“So, for those who’ve watched me spin three times on a single lap, punted off track, crashed into, dive-bombed, span in front off while on the grid, and rear ended at 370mph. I sincerely apologize, but will do my best to contribute moving forwards!”
Rules
We expect all drivers to follow our OLR Rules and pursue good racecraft at all times. If you're not sure what good racecraft is, watch this video. It can be summed up in one simple 'Golden Rule' of motorsports:
It is the responsibility of the overtaking driver, meaning the car that is attempting to execute the pass, to make sure that the pass is made cleanly and incident free. If you don't agree with this rule or don't think it applies to you, this is not the league for you.
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- Virginia
- Wolfsatz
Harry for VP!!
- 1,272
- Saskatchewan
- DUB-L-DEE
I totally understand and agree with the rule, I guess for me it's the feeling of pressure(brought on by nobody but myself) that on a reverse grid, or random grid where I'm starting ahead of guys a lot faster than me, I'm gonna be in the way! As a result I'm spending half of my Thursday nights driving through the rear view mirror.(Again I know this is a Me problem). Maybe it's just me that feels this way, and in time I'll become more comfortable with it. I know the other nights when I'm lucky enough to join a Mango lobby, I really enjoy it, but it's a totally different type of practice, and so laid back that I doubt anyone feels pressure. Thursday's just seem much more serious, and not just the racing, but the reactions of people when they are affected by another racer's mistakes, Just my observations, and opinion.
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- United States
Easy fix.. just drive in reverse and you'll be looking the right way!
With particular combos I seem to spend a fair portion looking the wrong way while my car is spinning.
On the other hand, I would like to thank everyone who has spent time with me in party chats and on the various tracks who have offered advice or made suggestions to make the combos work better for me. Last night for example a few guys chatting about how they are turning laps improved my lap times by 2 seconds in the Miata. In impromptu practice rooms I get to run with and chat with the guys who burn up the track like their car is on rails while I wobble through the same sections often just because I am pushing too hard and not running smoothly. Being able to follow you fast guys, or having you behind me knowing if I make that one mistake you are going by me has greatly increased my skill level. I know official practice should probably be split up because the higher divisions are faster by a significant margin, I just don't know how I could do without you guys joining rooms I'm in that aren't "official".
Again thanks to everyone, and when you see me making the doughnuts on track, I promise if I have ruined your lap or made contact I am apologizing out loud. Some of the guys can verify that.
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- QwietStorm03
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