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Ive been meaning to ask. I saw a video of snail members on project cars 2. Does snail plan on expanding to project cars 2 ?
 
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Here are the unofficial results from our league night on April 15, 2018

Click here for this season's points standings and click a tab at the bottom for more detail.

Click here if the data linked above has already been archived and you would like to view it.

Division 1
  1. SAMHAIN85 --------- voted to eliminate Round 1 - 90 (104.26 for Prize A) SEE NOTE BELOW
  2. aLmk_69 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  3. src_ej6 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. x_SIK_PUPPY_x ----- voted to eliminate Round 2
  5. Nic-KL ------------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  6. nmcp1 ------------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  7. Grandpas_Money ---- voted to eliminate Round 2
  8. MikeGrove --------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  9. Neuttyy ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  10. SLC_VR6_V-DUB ----- voted to eliminate Round 2
  11. Kgffty ------------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  12. OMG_mang ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  13. MajorBlixem ------- voted to eliminate Round 1
Division 2
  1. rkzjb04 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 2 - 80 (87.92 for Prize B)
  2. Rednose58 --------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  3. DUB-L-DEE --------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. BradESPN ---------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  5. vsfit ------------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  6. Raw10_2u ---------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  7. TVV0_ ------------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  8. TEX36 ------------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  9. hanablemoore ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
  10. Freeryd503 -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  11. kgeldersma -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  12. Tec1347 ----------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  13. Alexrider007 ------ voted to eliminate Round 1
Division 3
  1. JamCar0ne --------- voted to eliminate Round 2 - 88 (65.35 for Prize C)
  2. Birdy1084 --------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  3. Mully465 ---------- voted to eliminate Round 2
  4. TBongX ------------ voted to eliminate Round 3
  5. basswerks1 -------- voted to eliminate Round 1
  6. RacingChamp30 ----- voted to eliminate Round 3
  7. Stelephant -------- voted to eliminate Round 3
  8. TexasmostHated ---- did not submit a vote
  9. Blazeit420stayhi -- did not submit a vote
The round that received the most elimination votes was:
Round 3 - GRAN TURISMO F1500T-A (RM) at Brands Hatch Indy Circuit - 11:39 Fine Weather (16 laps)
Therefore the entire combo has been dropped from next week's line-up. Since @SAMHAIN85 wins Prize A, he gets to choose an entirely new car and track combo to replace it.
PLEASE NOTE: Since @SAMHAIN85 has already won Prize A this season, he is ineligible to win it again until next season. This means that unless he loses Prize A due to incident reviews, any driver who competed in Division 1 on Sunday night will have the opportunity to suggest an entirely new car and track combo. I recommend that all D1 drivers from Sunday night start TESTING combos they would like to suggest. That way, you will be ready to post a good combo when @JLBowler gives the "all clear". It's important to mention that a good combo will not have a car that hits its rev limiter at any point during a race (even in a draft). Also, please be sure to only suggest one combo. Any driver who suggests more than one combo will automatically be ineligible to suggest any combos at all. Please don't let that happen to you. Only suggest ONE combo (but not until @SAMHAIN85 is confirmed as the Prize A winner).

The round that received the second most elimination votes was:
Round 1 - CHEVROLET CORVETTE C7 GR.3 (RH) at Blue Moon Bay Speedway - Infield A - 08:30 Clear (10 laps)
This means either the car or the track will be replaced for next week's line-up. Since @Rob Brown gets Prize B, he has the option to freeze the car or the track, or he can give that option to the Prize C winner. If he gives the freeze away, then he gets to decide what car or track replaces the part of the combo that is left unfrozen by the Prize C winner.

Prize C goes to @JamCar0ne so he gets whichever option the Prize B winner does not select.

Preliminary prize winners, please don't announce your prize selection until all incident reports have been filed and it has been confirmed that you don't have any penalties. It's also recommended that you review the SNAIL combo history and other data on our car and track history so that you can get an idea how many times we've raced each car and track. Please remember that originality is always appreciated, so picking cars and tracks that we've never raced is a plus (but not required). What's more important is that you thoroughly test any combo that you are considering before making it your official selection. For example, any car you select should not hit its rev limiter at any point during a race (even in the draft).

IMPORTANT: When posting your Prize A or Prize B selection, please list the complete in-game name of the car and/or track you are selecting. For example, if you want to select the Amuse Superlegara for your car, post "Amuse Nismo 380 RS Superlagara". If you want to select Monza for a track, post "Autodromo Nazionale Monza". This makes it much easier for the lineup to be updated accurately and also prevents confusing other league members as to which car or track you are selecting. Also, please be sure to list the PP and HP (after oil change) of any car you select.

Car Selection Guidelines
See Section 3 of the SNAIL OLR, Policies and Guidelines.

Track Selection Guidelines
See Section 3.1 of the SNAIL OLR, Policies and Guidelines.
 
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@SAMHAIN85 @Rob Brown @JamCar0ne are all cleared to make their selections.

If you raced in D1 this week, you get to make one suggestion from which @SAMHAIN85 will make his selection. Do so in this thread and the deadline is 11:59 PM ET on Tuesday.

@aLmk @src_ej6 @spidermonkey @Nicktune @nmcp1 @Grandpa Money @MikeGrove @Neutty @GTPvw_slc @Kgffy @TomMang_68 @MajorBlixem
 
Rob Brown
@nmcp1 @vsfit
I will take the fanatec plunge sooner or later. I’m thinking inverted v3 but do either of you guys have the reg v3 pedals? Inverted worth it or not? (I’ll get the damper regardless). Also, probably would have already bought but their website is so fricken confusing. Is v2.5 steering base available for ps4/PC?
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Ok so curiosity got the cat now.......I am in a position where I am in need of replacing my good ol' reliable G27, due to the "popping into neutral" issue I'm dealing with every time I use it!:banghead: I want to know why people are considering a Fanatec wheel, pedals, etc. Does this wheel make you any faster/better, or is this simply a matter of the more realistic feel of the wheel, over the Logitechs, Thrustmasters, etc? Either reason absolute makes sense from a personal preference perspective, but unless shelling out the cash for one of those wheel/pedal setups is going to make me feared by the "snailiens" in D1, it's not an option for me. If I want to feel a realistic wheel and pedal set up, I'll go jump in my real life car and find my favorite winding road to test it's limits on. I have no problem paying the extra money for a quality wheel, but it has to be quite noticeable from an on-track performance side of things, if you know what I mean?
If anyone that has gone from a regular wheel to a Fanatec could chime in on why you chose that wheel, and what's it's done for you in your sim racing experiences, that would be greatly appreciated, like I said I have to replace mine, sooner rather than later!
 
DublDee
Ok so curiosity got the cat now.......I am in a position where I am in need of replacing my good ol' reliable G27, due to the "popping into neutral" issue I'm dealing with every time I use it!:banghead: I want to know why people are considering a Fanatec wheel, pedals, etc. Does this wheel make you any faster/better, or is this simply a matter of the more realistic feel of the wheel, over the Logitechs, Thrustmasters, etc? Either reason absolute makes sense from a personal preference perspective, but unless shelling out the cash for one of those wheel/pedal setups is going to make me feared by the "snailiens" in D1, it's not an option for me. If I want to feel a realistic wheel and pedal set up, I'll go jump in my real life car and find my favorite winding road to test it's limits on. I have no problem paying the extra money for a quality wheel, but it has to be quite noticeable from an on-track performance side of things, if you know what I mean?
If anyone that has gone from a regular wheel to a Fanatec could chime in on why you chose that wheel, and what's it's done for you in your sim racing experiences, that would be greatly appreciated, like I said I have to replace mine, sooner rather than later!
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Lol i was just texting about this very issue except i got a g29.
 
I have a g29 and it works fine for me. One thing I will add though to make a point @nmcp1 made is the wheel is small. I had a co. make me 2 attachments (3d printed) to attach a larger wheel but I haven't bought a new wheel yet to try it out. The reason for 2 pieces is one for the wheel and a spacer to have adequate room for the buttons. Just need to find a wheel I like.

https://pinshape.com/items/38666-3d-printed-logitech-g29-g920-aftermarket-steering-wheel-adapter

https://pinshape.com/items/38665-3d-printed-15mm-spacer-70mmpcd
 
That's an interesting topic; do the higher end peripherals increase your skill level. Its hard to say, and I could see valid arguments on both sides.

Unfortunately I dont have a whole lot of experience racing side by side with nmcp (hes a pleasure to race with) but I have noticed his laptimes decrease and competitiveness increase a lot since he got his Fanatec wheel and he has proved to be a real contender in D1. I dont know if this is solely because of his new wheel or if he is just practicing more.

Then you have the guys that could be given an old beat up Logitech DFP and put down the same laps as if they were on a $600 Fanatec wheel.

I'm sure its easier with a top of the line wheel, but thats not to say you cant get the job done with a budget wheel.

I think part of it is a placebo effect - your mind telling you that you're going to be faster with this shiny new top of the line wheel. Just like how pc gamer fan boys go out and buy the same peripherals that their favorite pro gamers use. And use the same settings (resolution, mouse dpi, sensitivity, even keyboard binds) and convince themselves if they use those same exact settings and emulate these pros to a T, that their game will improve.

Or if you gave a 40 handicap golfer a medium graphite cavity back 7 iron (an easier to hit club) as opposed to a stiff tour blade - if you can't hit the ball to being with its not going to really matter. But these golf companies make a killing through advertising that the pros represent on the tour. Joe blow golfer sees that the Masters was won with Callaways, he may want to go out and buy them for himself thinking they might be better than lets say Taylor Mades.

At the end of the day I think it comes down to how much practice and time you're willing to put into it if you want to see lap times go down. Personally I use the T300 (my first wheel since buying it on black friday) and I'm happy with it. But I did put in a lot of time with it to get where I'm at since racing with the Ds4 and the wheel are two completely different experiences.
 
SAMHAIN85
That's an interesting topic; do the higher end peripherals increase your skill level. Its hard to say, and I could see valid arguments on both sides.

Unfortunately I dont have a whole lot of experience racing side by side with nmcp (hes a pleasure to race with) but I have noticed his laptimes decrease and competitiveness increase a lot since he got his Fanatec wheel and he has proved to be a real contender in D1. I dont know if this is solely because of his new wheel or if he is just practicing more.

Then you have the guys that could be given an old beat up Logitech DFP and put down the same laps as if they were on a $600 Fanatec wheel.

I'm sure its easier with a top of the line wheel, but thats not to say you cant get the job done with a budget wheel.

I think part of it is a placebo effect - your mind telling you that you're going to be faster with this shiny new top of the line wheel. Just like how pc gamer fan boys go out and buy the same peripherals that their favorite pro gamers use. And use the same settings (resolution, mouse dpi, sensitivity, even keyboard binds) and convince themselves if they use those same exact settings and emulate these pros to a T, that their game will improve.

Or if you gave a 40 handicap golfer a medium graphite cavity back 7 iron (an easier to hit club) as opposed to a stiff tour blade - if you can't hit the ball to being with its not going to really matter. But these golf companies make a killing through advertising that the pros represent on the tour. Joe blow golfer sees that the Masters was won with Callaways, he may want to go out and buy them for himself thinking they might be better than lets say Taylor Mades.

At the end of the day I think it comes down to how much practice and time you're willing to put into it if you want to see lap times go down. Personally I use the T300 (my first wheel since buying it on black friday) and I'm happy with it. But I did put in a lot of time with it to get where I'm at since racing with the Ds4 and the wheel are two completely different experiences.
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Yea but the fanatec stuff is so pretty. Lol i watch alot of sim racing on youtube and the look and quality of that stuff is tempting to buy. But if the had a direct drive wheel for ps4 i spend what they are asking.
 
Practice definitely makes a big difference. My entire GT5 and GT6 career was with a DFGT and if anyone remembers having a good battle with my I was using that cheap thing. I've since switched to a G29 and a lack of practice certainly shows so in my case wheel quality doesn't matter as much.
 
DublDee
Ok so curiosity got the cat now.......I am in a position where I am in need of replacing my good ol' reliable G27, due to the "popping into neutral" issue I'm dealing with every time I use it!:banghead: I want to know why people are considering a Fanatec wheel, pedals, etc. Does this wheel make you any faster/better, or is this simply a matter of the more realistic feel of the wheel, over the Logitechs, Thrustmasters, etc? Either reason absolute makes sense from a personal preference perspective, but unless shelling out the cash for one of those wheel/pedal setups is going to make me feared by the "snailiens" in D1, it's not an option for me. If I want to feel a realistic wheel and pedal set up, I'll go jump in my real life car and find my favorite winding road to test it's limits on. I have no problem paying the extra money for a quality wheel, but it has to be quite noticeable from an on-track performance side of things, if you know what I mean?
If anyone that has gone from a regular wheel to a Fanatec could chime in on why you chose that wheel, and what's it's done for you in your sim racing experiences, that would be greatly appreciated, like I said I have to replace mine, sooner rather than later!
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Marcus Garvey
Wheels are a wear item. For a long time, logitech G-series has had significant saturation in the TT leaderboards, GTA, etc. Prior to that, the driving force series wheels held similar status. Part of that is because of the market share that logitech once held, along with the reputation they earned. Part of that is also because they do work well. Some hardware can provide increase immersion, at increased expense and inconvenience(big weight/power wheels require hefty rigs which take up time/space/$$$,) however for the customisation that GT offers none are at a significant advantage in pace over any of the others. In fact, many of the big $$$ wheel owners often struggle to keep pace with their own times on a G-series, as a lot of the things that increase immersion can have the counter effect of making it more difficult to drive and/or repeat laps consistently. GTAcademy competitors who swapped to the T500 for the next year after the finals' surprise rig setup abandoned the expected logitech hardware were faced with the decision to compete in the prelims with a wheel that was giving up pace and consistency to the logitechs in exchange for more seat time and experience with the beast they would face in the finals. Casual drivers often choose between immersion/realism and ease of driving/raw pace. Of course, today is not several years ago and technology has changed. However, from my perspective the point stands; there are better(depending on how you define that word) wheels on the market, however you can purchase the 'value priced' G-series and at least be certain you're not giving up time to your competitors. You may give up some of that awesome feel, but you won't be slower. As a purist from a competition standpoint, if it doesn't make me any faster I find difficulty in justifying the cost.

Opinions may vary. Buy what you like.

tl/dr: Don't spend the extra money because you feel it may make you faster. Spend it if you want a more immersive, realistic, and enjoyable driving experience.
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