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[BradESPN]

As long as they have good situational awareness when the faster cars are coming up on them.

Agreed if you’re being lapped, but otherwise doesn’t the golden rule apply?

 

[DesertPenguin]

I just mean that if you're racing and you see a faster driver coming up on you in to a braking zone, maybe don't drive the corner like they're not there and potentially turn in on them when you could easily have gone two wide and had a fun moment.

 

[Hanable]

A hour at 24 nurb at night in a gr.4 bmw m4 might be fun. I favor large grids myself.

 

[BradESPN]

I just mean that if you're racing and you see a faster driver coming up on you in to a braking zone, maybe don't drive the corner like they're not there and potentially turn in on them when you could easily have gone two wide and had a fun moment.

I disagree but I’m still pretty new to racing etiquette. Shouldn’t the lead driver feel free to drive his/her line?

I agree that going two wide through a corner is fun though...

 

[DesertPenguin]

They are and should, but should also be aware of their pace and the pace of those around them. You may brake as late as you dare but know the guy behind will brake later etc

 

[Hanable]

A snail posted a 360 reverse entry in a ft86 at tsukuba a while ago. Whoever that was i just want to know if you were stock or not.

 

[Raw10_2u]

I just mean that if you're racing and you see a faster driver coming up on you in to a braking zone, maybe don't drive the corner like they're not there and potentially turn in on them when you could easily have gone two wide and had a fun moment.

It is the behind drivers responsibility to overtake properly.The ahead driver shouldn't have to worry about the driver behind trying an overtake (divebombing) without proper overlap.The ahead driver has the right to the line he/she prefers,regardless of those behind. Proper overlap is required before turn in!

 

[DesertPenguin]

Sorry, you're absolutely right in that situation. In that situation definitely don't purposefully leave room but be mindful of your surrounding as always.

Maybe I don't mean that situation. I mean when you're both braking (with overlap) but the other guy does it better and gets to the apex first. If you notice your position go down that means the other car is in front so don't turn in fully because there's a car there. That kind of awareness. It's a combination of watching your rear view mirror, checking side views, looking at the radar, it's tough

 

[TomMang_68]

They are and should, but should also be aware of their pace and the pace of those around them. You may brake as late as you dare but know the guy behind will brake later etc

@DesertPenguin the guy behind needs to adjust their braking otherwise risk penalty. Remember you are racing, not hot lapping, You cannot expect to go through any corner at the same pace you do hot lapping, when you have a car to pass in front of you. @BradESPN is correct. Follow the golden rule and you should be fine. Tailgating and forcing the guy infront to make an error is acceptable but comes with its own risks.

That being said. my review of the 4 incidents on file is complete

edit ; Ninja'd by @Raw10_2u

 

[TexasJDC]

Anyone else playing H1Z1? I downloaded it last night and looks fun

 

[JLBowler]

@DesertPenguin the guy behind needs to adjust their braking otherwise risk penalty. Remember you are racing, not hot lapping, You cannot expect to go through any corner at the same pace you do hot lapping, when you have a car to pass in front of you. @BradESPN is correct. Follow the golden rule and you should be fine. Tailgating and forcing the guy infront to make an error is acceptable but comes with its own risks.

That being said. my review of the 4 incidents on file is complete

edit ; Ninja'd by @Raw10_2u

Thanks for jumping on the reviews and taking care of that. I posted last week's summary earlier today in my attempt to get caught up. It's just too damn easy to get behind on stuff.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Anyone else playing H1Z1? I downloaded it last night and looks fun

I'm waiting for the better PUBG to arrive on PS4. It will eventually

 

[JLBowler]

Prize Update​

The stewards have completed enough reviews to confirm this weeks prize winners.

Prize B and C have already been confirmed.

This week's prize A winner is @Mully465 and he is now free to make his selection.

 

[JamCar0ne]

I just mean that if you're racing and you see a faster driver coming up on you in to a braking zone, maybe don't drive the corner like they're not there and potentially turn in on them when you could easily have gone two wide and had a fun moment.

The Golden Rule of Motorsports always applies to the passing driver regardless of whom he is passing. Just because you finished the first race towards the front doesn't mean the other guy has to pull over and let you pass. Here is a neat video about passing and the need to make sure you are seen by the other driver.

 

[Neutty]

A snail posted a 360 reverse entry in a ft86 at tsukuba a while ago. Whoever that was i just want to know if you were stock or not.

@Nicktune if I remember right that was your video.

 

[Hanable]

Have there been reckless driving? Every division has been clean and i think ive raced with everyone so far. Even the new people seem to understand pretty well what we expect from them.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Have there been reckless driving? Every division has been clean and i think ive raced with everyone so far. Even the new people seem to understand pretty well what we expect from them.

No just a general discussion

 

[Hanable]

No just a general discussion

Ok thought i was missing something.

 

[aLmk]

I have noticed a debate among some that is kind of smoldering at this point. The question that has been raised is, would it be better to have a tighter skill gap within more divisions or are larger fields more important. At the current time, we are right on the cusp of having three or four divisions. We have stayed at three divisions as it allows for larger fields on Sunday nights.

I want to open up a discussion about which of the two options would be more appealing to the membership. Please post here which you would prefer:
Tighter skill gaps with smaller grids or,
Larger grids with the existing skill gap.

Post your thoughts but please refrain from debating or attacking anyone else's opinion. Just make your thoughts known and they will be taken into consideration. If you're not comfortable posting them for everyone to see, you can start a conversation with me giving your opinions. Please note that I will not be responding to any of these conversations and this is not to be taken as a chance to petition for anyone to be moved between divisions.

I prefer larger grids.

 

[MajorBlixem]

I have noticed a debate among some that is kind of smoldering at this point. The question that has been raised is, would it be better to have a tighter skill gap within more divisions or are larger fields more important. At the current time, we are right on the cusp of having three or four divisions. We have stayed at three divisions as it allows for larger fields on Sunday nights.

I want to open up a discussion about which of the two options would be more appealing to the membership. Please post here which you would prefer:
Tighter skill gaps with smaller grids or,
Larger grids with the existing skill gap.

Post your thoughts but please refrain from debating or attacking anyone else's opinion. Just make your thoughts known and they will be taken into consideration. If you're not comfortable posting them for everyone to see, you can start a conversation with me giving your opinions. Please note that I will not be responding to any of these conversations and this is not to be taken as a chance to petition for anyone to be moved between divisions.

I prefer larger grids. It is inevitable that you will have guys in the division that is on average faster than the pack. They might win Race 1 but the challenge will then be to work cleanly through the pack on race 2. The bigger the grid the bigger the challenge.

We have that situation currently in D2 and it works very well. The pack is very even but we have a couple of guys (not mentioning names) that are marginally faster than us. However these 2 guys are some of the cleanest racers in Snail. I have no worries when I see them come up in my rearview mirror because I know a clean pass is coming soon

 

[TomMang_68]

@JLBowler I enjoy the larger grids

 

[Mully465]

I will work on the Prize A combo

 

[Rob Brown]

I have noticed a debate among some that is kind of smoldering at this point. The question that has been raised is, would it be better to have a tighter skill gap within more divisions or are larger fields more important. At the current time, we are right on the cusp of having three or four divisions. We have stayed at three divisions as it allows for larger fields on Sunday nights.

I want to open up a discussion about which of the two options would be more appealing to the membership. Please post here which you would prefer:
Tighter skill gaps with smaller grids or,
Larger grids with the existing skill gap.

Post your thoughts but please refrain from debating or attacking anyone else's opinion. Just make your thoughts known and they will be taken into consideration. If you're not comfortable posting them for everyone to see, you can start a conversation with me giving your opinions. Please note that I will not be responding to any of these conversations and this is not to be taken as a chance to petition for anyone to be moved between divisions.

Most of the responses so far have been in favor of the larger grids. I agree with the benefits of the larger grids. However, there are also some drawbacks that are not good for SNAIL and need to be considered. 1) Larger grids make it impossible for some to participate who have marginal internet connections - perhaps at no fault of the racer OR their tier of service. 2) Larger grids with so few divisions means there is a large spread in ability. This is not necessarily noticed for the guys at the top of their divisions but could be demoralizing for the guys on the bottom of their divisions. We’ve all been at the back of the pack at some point out of poor ability at some combo but happy if there are a couple racers with us to race. That’s enough for most to stay involved but I think everyone would agree that it sure is nice to podium once in a while. Boil it all down and the condensate says that smaller grids are a feasible benefit to SNAIL.

 

[Hanable]

Enduro tonight right? If so just want to know what car so i can paint it.

 

[Raw10_2u]

Most of the responses so far have been in favor of the larger grids. I agree with the benefits of the larger grids. However, there are also some drawbacks that are not good for SNAIL and need to be considered. 1) Larger grids make it impossible for some to participate who have marginal internet connections - perhaps at no fault of the racer OR their tier of service. 2) Larger grids with so few divisions means there is a large spread in ability. This is not necessarily noticed for the guys at the top of their divisions but could be demoralizing for the guys on the bottom of their divisions. We’ve all been at the back of the pack at some point out of poor ability at some combo but happy if there are a couple racers with us to race. That’s enough for most to stay involved but I think everyone would agree that it sure is nice to podium once in a while. Boil it all down and the condensate says that smaller grids are a feasible benefit to SNAIL.

@JLBowler What He ^ said!

 

[BradESPN]

Enduro tonight right? If so just want to know what car so i can paint it.

Yep, you can check the endurance series thread for more details, but the short version: Gr. 3 Ferrari at Monza.

 

[TVV0_]

Enduro tonight right? If so just want to know what car so i can paint it.

Gr.3 ferrari.
I do think i am hosting this one. @BradESPN has his daughters game.


@JLBowler the only draw back i saw with the smaller groups (6) in D5 when i joined was not getting votes lol. I think the closer groups could benefit newcomers and members alike. Having less congestion and skill gap people can focus on their lines and gaining ever tenth. Instead of dodging an array of different lines and paced cars.

 

[Raw10_2u]

I have completed my review of the 4 incidents on file.

 

[Hanable]

Gr.3 ferrari.
I do think i am hosting this one. @BradESPN has his daughters game.


@JLBowler the only draw back i saw with the smaller groups (6) in D5 when i joined was not getting votes lol. I think the closer groups could benefit newcomers and members alike. Having less congestion and skill gap people can focus on their lines and gaining ever tenth. Instead of dodging an array of different lines and paced cars.

Ah daddy duties. I understand. Part of the deal.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Anyone that's not doing the Endurance Series interested in some other racing? I know we have two weeks before the next race night but one can never get enough practice. We have one combo to work with right now but it seems by the votes that a lot of you liked it. If anyone wants to get a fix in tonight I'll host a room for y'all