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[JLBowler]

@JamCar0ne I'll respond to the part about the policy. It was written with the intent of everyone confirming visually that they can see all the cars on track. That is the reason for everyone to be in turn one. It's so that you can actually see all the cars on track. Over time, we got lazy and just relied on the numbers in the corner of the screen or information given to us by the game. The section is still valid if the original intent of the policy is followed.

I will agree that the hosts do a pretty good job of getting the room open as close to :00 as possible most of the time. Real life does get in the way sometimes. I will also agree that drivers should attempt to get into the room as soon as possible after it's open so that there is ample time to sort any issues.

I would also not be opposed to changing that :25 time to something earlier but that would have to be discussed by the BoD.

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

And as for this, I know that for myself with certain combos (i.e., Gr2 NSX @ Suzuka) I did NOT want to be sitting on track for 15+ minutes with my tires now cold (blue) and then go to qually and spin during the out lap because the tires were so cold; or get caught from behind when letting the tires warm up (running 7/10 or so) by someone who is pushing it and didn't place themselves higher up in the queue when sitting on track.
So if I enter the lobby and ASAP (per the OLR) enter the track and sit at corner 1/staging point, why would I want to get there early in the night?

A little trick for cold tires, at about 5 minutes. 9:25 go check your settings.

 

[Marcus Garvey]

Off topic, but I figured folks here would know best; does the game still apply traction control when you first enter the track even when TC is prohibited in settings, requiring you leave and re-enter the track in order to clear it and drive without traction control?

Oops, did not intended to poach a totpp. In exchange for the inconvenience here for your viewing pleasure is a Civic doing an endo;

 

[Raw10_2u]

@Marcus Garvey The answer is no. TCS is at 3 default,but will not allow you to enter the race if the lobby settings are set for no TCS.

 

[TomMang_68]

@Marcus Garvey The answer is no. TCS is at 3 default,but will not allow you to enter the race if the lobby settings are set for no TCS.

As an aside, you can always make TC changes on the fly in GTS

 

[stelephant]

A little trick for cold tires, at about 5 minutes. 9:25 go check your settings.

Thanks
As for the tires comment, it was simply to point out that people who try to do the right thing and show up early/on time are put in a "disadvantageous" position, as slight as it may be.

Most divisional hosts strive to open between :00 and :05 giving players time to work issues out. But one of the biggest problems hosts / division managers face is a player who waits until :25 to join and then connection issues start. The ideal 30 minutes of time allotted from when the room could open to race start may seem like an ample amount of time until you host and have to deal with various issues.

@JamCar0ne has done a great job getting the room up and running at an appropriate time. 👍

The majority of people who are late to join and showing up without the correct cars, etc. are the ones who won't be reading these posts anyway (obviously). Really this goes back to this post (TLDR: Don't be a douche and do your part to help SNAIL stay awesome.), where the importance of being an active member of SNAIL is the main point.

 

[TEX36]

A little trick for cold tires, at about 5 minutes. 9:25 go check your settings.

Please elaborate, as I don't understand "what settings" effect the initial grip of tires at the start of the 1st Qualifying run.

 

[Rob Brown]

I have occasionally heard of people talking about cold tires and GT6. I must admit I have not heard anybody talk about it in GT spurt (until now). I have never been able to discern cold or warm tires and any Gran Turismo simulation. Project cars is a different story, there is a major effect from cold tires.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I have occasionally heard of people talking about cold tires and GT6. I must admit I have not heard anybody talk about it in GT spurt (until now). I have never been able to discern cold or warm tires and any Gran Turismo simulation. Project cars is a different story, there is a major effect from cold tires.

Same. The game doesn't show tires as one color at the start changing to another as you turn laps so as far as I'm concerned there's no tire temperature dynamic in GTSport. Just go for it and race.

 

[DublDee]

People should be in the rooms and on track by 9:15 at the latest to work out any issues the room is having. Bad connections, p2p blinds,people unable to enter the room due to a conflict with the host, whatever have you

I always try to get in the room right at 9 or shortly after, just because of possible issues that can usually be sorted out prior to race start.

 

[stelephant]

People should be in the rooms and on track by 9:15 at the latest to work out any issues the room is having. Bad connections, p2p blinds,people unable to enter the room due to a conflict with the host, whatever have you

I always try to get in the room right at 9 or shortly after, just because of possible issues that can usually be sorted out prior to race start.

I agree, as I love to banter with people before the race in voice chat anyway.

I have occasionally heard of people talking about cold tires and GT6. I must admit I have not heard anybody talk about it in GT spurt (until now). I have never been able to discern cold or warm tires and any Gran Turismo simulation. Project cars is a different story, there is a major effect from cold tires.

Same. The game doesn't show tires as one color at the start changing to another as you turn laps so as far as I'm concerned there's no tire temperature dynamic in GTSport. Just go for it and race.

So for the naysayers and/or nonbelievers, or just those who may need anecdotal proof...
This is after about 6 minutes on track (as it took me a minute to get the settings fixed)
Edit: Added the original pic of whole screen.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I agree, as I love to banter with people before the race in voice chat anyway.





So for the naysayers and/or nonbelievers, or just those who may need anecdotal proof...
This is after about 6 minutes on track (as it took me a minute to get the settings fixed)

View attachment 740461

Okay that's cool, but we don't have a comparison photo for when you first got on track and also for later after many laps (to give an example of mid-race)

 

[stelephant]

Okay but we don't have a comparison photo for when you first got on track and also for later after many laps (to give an example of mid-race)

There is a pic added now (it didn't attach the first time) showing the overall view of the screen. To clarify, this would be as if I exited the pit and then sat there for ~6 minutes. Which, if I entered the room and went on track immediately (original discussion) would result in cold tires for the start of the qually after sitting for any more than 6 minutes.

The issue was never about during the race, as I was adding to the comments about getting in a room and on track. It was about beginning a qually and having the tires cold when leaving for the warm up prior to the hot lap. Yes, the tires warm up quickly - no more blue surround after only a few turns (I never claimed that it was long lasting). But there are some people who then complain at others to move out of the way during hot lapping without considering that some people may not want to spin during a qually. Again, if you are fast, don't care/notice the tires, or are just going to 'just go for it and race', then this discussion doesn't apply to you.

@Rob Brown the main difference that I notice is the break away when the tires are cold, and it remains shortly after they lose the blue surround. This is especially evident in cars like the Lexus (as I am sure you remember from our practice driving on tires that were not blue).

However, the MAIN point I was making is about SNAIL being fair and balanced. I was simply pointing out a discrepancy in this fundamental philosophy. It was to also point out those who show up late are counterproductive to this philosophy (insert same rant as everyone else).

 

[DesertPenguin]

I know you're talking about the start but I got distracted by the idea of tire temp in general so that's my bad.

So we have even more reason to get into the lobby early and have the same tires as everyone else. Spec racing down to every aspect.

 

[stelephant]

I know you're talking about the start but I got distracted by the idea of tire temp in general so that's my bad.

So we have even more reason to get into the lobby early and have the same tires as everyone else. Spec racing down to every aspect.

Edit: Either that, or I will be doing some staging burnouts prior to the race. Haha


No problem with the tire temp thing, as it seems to be minimal. Just like how if you spin them, they get a red surround (hot and greasy, like fried chicken ) that dissipates quickly as well. Wear indication is obviously the main function of the tire contact patch shown in the on screen display.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Pretty much. So random idea, I know we have tire wear on but it's x1 and doesn't have a substantial impact on the races. It can with certain cars and driving styles but it's not like they ever come close to half way. What if we ran something higher to see if we can get a noticeable change in traction for the last 2-3 minutes of our ~12 minute races? I know the answer is no but wouldn't that be interesting?

On the topic of tire temp when starting qualifying, I see nothing wrong with lighting up the tires when you go from a stand still on your out lap. That should help a little right?

 

[RacingOtaku86]

Anyone up for practice tonight? Say, around 9:00 Central?

 

[BradESPN]

Anyone up for practice tonight? Say, around 9:00 Central?

I’m planning on starting some combo practice after dinner... so hopefully around 7 central, and I should be on until around 10.

 

[BradESPN]

I’m planning on starting some combo practice after dinner... so hopefully around 7 central, and I should be on until around 10.

Room’s up:

0474-5861-3054-5595-9108

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

Please elaborate, as I don't understand "what settings" effect the initial grip of tires at the start of the 1st Qualifying run.

just going into the setting menu where you check your ABS, TC. basicly backing off track and than going back onto the track. so that the game puts you back on "warm tires"

 

[JLBowler]

Some guys will argue about anything. Just get in the lobby as soon as you can, go park it in turn one and wait for the start. If you're the last guy in the room, you're going to be at the back of the line to start qualifying and sit for at least a minute. If you get caught from behind with a five second head start in one lap, you're going too slow. Pick it up.

I will say it again. All of the drivers making sure they can see one another is so much more important than having warm tires for an out lap. It's an out lap. It doesn't count for anything. If you feel the need to leave the track and jump back in to get warm tires, first of all, you're not following policy and secondly, you're overthinking the whole process. Again, IT'S AN OUT LAP. The tires are back up to temp well within a lap on the track before anything counts for anything.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Who's arguing?

 

[JamCar0ne]

 

[DublDee]

Not sure if anyone can help me here, but I'm trying to get these files converted to SVG and upload to GTS, but everything I've tried results in failure! If anyone can upload these for me, that would be awesome.

 

[DesertPenguin]

There's a thread just for this type of thing and you'll most likely get a much quicker response. Here ya go!

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/livery-svg-request-thread.367463/page-90#post-12345954

 

[TomMang_68]

Who's arguing?

I’m not arguing- I’m just contradicting everything you say !

lol

 

[DesertPenguin]

Just checking Jalopnik this morning and saw this. Snails have been in racing longer than I thought!

The First Woman To Ever Race Was A Rothschild Who Called Herself 'Snail'

 

[JLBowler]

The drivers list has been updated and is ready for tonight's racing. All drivers that have submitted a time trial have been placed in a division and will need to check the list.

@Matman03 @THRASH

 

[FREEREVN]

I’ll be attending tonight

 

[SAMHAIN85]

Whoops


I'm taking the night off but I'm free to stream the action. I was thinking of streaming D1/C1, D2/C2, D3/C3.