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I'm just going to jump into it. I've been reading around about the possibility of some changes in the physics after the 1.10 update. Of course nothing about this was mentioned, meaning that if it is true, it was definitely ninja'd into the game. I'm a rather skeptical person, I don't trust much unless I see it for myself, or someone else can provide concrete proof. So after my weekend away, I've come back home and hopped into my Enzo, as many of you know I had been previously testing last week.
I figured if there was any comparison that's the most fair, it's the most recent one I've done. So here, I have lap times, from 2 different tracks, across 10 different tunes all less than a week old. So I reset everything and I mean everything, back to default on my Enzo. Took it back to the track ran some laps and immediately something was different. I ran over 150 laps on Tsukuba in the Enzo last week over 3 days, in 10 tunes with multiple variations of the top 3 tunes, after the initial test.
Today, I ran 4 laps in the stock/default Enzo and had pulled a 51.789. This wasn't an amazingly fast lap, but it was already 6 tenths faster than the same test I had performed last week pre-update with the same exact settings. The ONLY difference, is any change that the update may of had on the transmission setting. Which may explain a small increment in lap times, but would absolutely not account for the noticeable difference in car balance and handling abilities.
As everyone knows, the Enzo was an understeering hog. But all of the sudden this car is cutting through Tsukuba like nothing. Some understeer is still present on exit, but overall it's leaps and bounds better than it was last week. I put another 10 laps on the default tune and reached a best of 51.470. This is the fastest time (recorded) through all of my tests, of any of the tunes tested. It's also nearly an entire second faster than my old test.
I can tell you right now, I didn't become a better driver, at least not by that much. 9 tenths on a track this small, is a huge increase. I've gone back over and doubled checked everything 3 times. Tires, Brake Bal, Suspension, Tranny, Downforce, Ballast, Horsepower, LSD, EVERYTHING is the exact same and has been reset to default a few times to ensure. (Tranny excluded due to inability to verify differences pre/post patch)
Pre-Patch: Enzo @ Tsukuba - 52.346 (After 15 laps)
Post-Patch: Enzo @ Tsukuba - 51.789 (After 5 laps)
Post-Patch: Enzo @ Tsukuba - 51.470 (After 15 laps)
Pre-Patch Test Results here!
Test 2:
Part 3 of my test was performed on High Speed ring, where the default tune wasn't tested. But on the 2nd lap I already ran a 58.3, and within the 10 lap run, ran a 58.151, which is within .030 of the 5th place tune tested.
So, for a comparison, I decided I need to test the tune that was the fastest and see what, if any, changes there are. In this case it was MrGrado's tune, which originally ran 57.617. On the 2nd lap, I ran a 57.710 and then within 10 laps ran a new record 57.547. I suppose this isn't a large enough margin to confirm any difference, but the car felt easier to control throughout the entire track.
Test 3:
Someone mentioned the balance on their Elise 111R being upset post patch, so I'll be testing mine as well. I spent a lot of time with my tune on Tsukuba as well as Deep Forest. These are the 2 tracks I used as 'benchmarks' for both the tune and the lap times presented with them, which I can assure you I worked extremely hard, to obtain a Lap Time that represents the quality of the tune. At May 13th, this tune is just under 1 month old. Still rather recent in the broad scheme of testing, my best lap was 1:07.035. Today after 10 laps, the best I could run was 1:07.313. Which for 10 laps seems to be no difference in the car.
Test 4:
The final test I'll be doing for now, is the Nissan GTR LM Race Car. The most recent of my tunes of which I spent hours and hours fine tuning the car to break into the 11's at Trial Mountain, of which I finally did with a 1:11.904. I ran 15 laps post-patch and came up with a 1:12.029. No difference in feel on this car for me either.
My conclusion... Well... Maybe they just ninja'd a few specific cars? Maybe I just got more comfortable with the Enzo? Maybe the Chrome Paint I put on it, makes it more aerodynamic! I'm curious to see other peoples test results, not speculation.
I figured if there was any comparison that's the most fair, it's the most recent one I've done. So here, I have lap times, from 2 different tracks, across 10 different tunes all less than a week old. So I reset everything and I mean everything, back to default on my Enzo. Took it back to the track ran some laps and immediately something was different. I ran over 150 laps on Tsukuba in the Enzo last week over 3 days, in 10 tunes with multiple variations of the top 3 tunes, after the initial test.
Today, I ran 4 laps in the stock/default Enzo and had pulled a 51.789. This wasn't an amazingly fast lap, but it was already 6 tenths faster than the same test I had performed last week pre-update with the same exact settings. The ONLY difference, is any change that the update may of had on the transmission setting. Which may explain a small increment in lap times, but would absolutely not account for the noticeable difference in car balance and handling abilities.
As everyone knows, the Enzo was an understeering hog. But all of the sudden this car is cutting through Tsukuba like nothing. Some understeer is still present on exit, but overall it's leaps and bounds better than it was last week. I put another 10 laps on the default tune and reached a best of 51.470. This is the fastest time (recorded) through all of my tests, of any of the tunes tested. It's also nearly an entire second faster than my old test.
I can tell you right now, I didn't become a better driver, at least not by that much. 9 tenths on a track this small, is a huge increase. I've gone back over and doubled checked everything 3 times. Tires, Brake Bal, Suspension, Tranny, Downforce, Ballast, Horsepower, LSD, EVERYTHING is the exact same and has been reset to default a few times to ensure. (Tranny excluded due to inability to verify differences pre/post patch)
Pre-Patch: Enzo @ Tsukuba - 52.346 (After 15 laps)
Post-Patch: Enzo @ Tsukuba - 51.789 (After 5 laps)
Post-Patch: Enzo @ Tsukuba - 51.470 (After 15 laps)
Pre-Patch Test Results here!
Test 2:
Part 3 of my test was performed on High Speed ring, where the default tune wasn't tested. But on the 2nd lap I already ran a 58.3, and within the 10 lap run, ran a 58.151, which is within .030 of the 5th place tune tested.
So, for a comparison, I decided I need to test the tune that was the fastest and see what, if any, changes there are. In this case it was MrGrado's tune, which originally ran 57.617. On the 2nd lap, I ran a 57.710 and then within 10 laps ran a new record 57.547. I suppose this isn't a large enough margin to confirm any difference, but the car felt easier to control throughout the entire track.
Test 3:
Someone mentioned the balance on their Elise 111R being upset post patch, so I'll be testing mine as well. I spent a lot of time with my tune on Tsukuba as well as Deep Forest. These are the 2 tracks I used as 'benchmarks' for both the tune and the lap times presented with them, which I can assure you I worked extremely hard, to obtain a Lap Time that represents the quality of the tune. At May 13th, this tune is just under 1 month old. Still rather recent in the broad scheme of testing, my best lap was 1:07.035. Today after 10 laps, the best I could run was 1:07.313. Which for 10 laps seems to be no difference in the car.
Test 4:
The final test I'll be doing for now, is the Nissan GTR LM Race Car. The most recent of my tunes of which I spent hours and hours fine tuning the car to break into the 11's at Trial Mountain, of which I finally did with a 1:11.904. I ran 15 laps post-patch and came up with a 1:12.029. No difference in feel on this car for me either.
My conclusion... Well... Maybe they just ninja'd a few specific cars? Maybe I just got more comfortable with the Enzo? Maybe the Chrome Paint I put on it, makes it more aerodynamic! I'm curious to see other peoples test results, not speculation.
