2012 GP2 Series

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I thought it had been the first race more than twice... I guess we are in for a procession regardless then!

Getting rid of the loop extension could improve the situation enough though. First attempt with Pirelli tyres too so a lot of unknowns, which is always good.
 
Was that comment regarding F1 Pezzarinho? Yes. The DRS + Pirelli's gave us a decent race at Barcelona last year. So anything is possible at Bahrain. Valencia, on the other hand...
 
Yes, sorry about that. Guess it kind of applies to GP2 though since they will be using Pirelli's and won't be using the loop... /quick_recovery
 
however Cecotto is a better example of a talentless pay driver, IMHO.
2nd fastest lap in race 2 would disagree.

Good to see Calado winning race 2. He looked like he was holding the field up for most of the race, but it would seem he was just "doing a Button" and looking after his tyres as he pulled away towards the end.
 
Cecotto just had no luck in Malaysia.

I see Van De Garde has returned to the series, is he hoping to pull off a move like Grosjean has?
 
2nd fastest lap in race 2 would disagree.

Pitiful results in previous years plus a few careless incidents in practice in Malaysia caused me to think "What is he doing there?".
 
Can someone tell me are the rules about defending position the same in GP2 as they are in F1, or can they make more moves?
 
As there's no GP3 thread (and I don't think its worth starting a new one considering how little discussion this one has got), I hope Melker and Cregan are ok after there horrific crashes at Spa today...not a good day for Ocean.
 
This weekend's racing should actually be quite interesting considering that only a couple of drivers on the grid have actually driven at Singapore before and the only practice time the first timers are getting is in the wet.

Wouldn't like to be in that position.
 
Well, the series is over, and to no-one's surprise, Davide Valsecchi is champion (it was pretty much a foregone conclusion after Monza).

To be brutally honest, it hasn't been a good season. At all. Costs have gone up, and the talent pool has become very shallow as drivers with more money than talent price others out of seats. Barwa Addax's season has been the perfect example of this. Ceccotto and Kral were reasonably adept, but were by no means the best drivers available to one of the best-performing teams in the category. And then when Rosenzweig took Kral's seat, it was just plain embarrassing.

I like that GP2 has tried to position itself as being halfway between Formula 1 and GP3, but the sheer cost of parts, plus the flyaway races has driven costs up. If the cost of parts could somehow be reduced, and more thought was put into the calendar, I think GP2 could reclaim a lot of the ground it lost to Formula Renault 3.5 this year. Instead of going to Sepang, a double-header at Bahrain, and then Singapore, perhaps the series organisers could consider going to Montreal and New Jersey (it doesn't take as long to get to North America from Europe as it does to get to Asia), and then maybe go to Suzuka and India at the end of the year, which won't put so much pressure on everyone to get to every race, and will shorten the season calendar by a month.
 
I liked the idea of an Asia series. You got the cash to do the fly-away season? Go. But dont punish the people with less money.
 
The Asia series was simply too expensive. In the end, it was reduced to two races in Bahrin and two races in Abu Dhabi. It just wasn't worth the expense. Case in point: the entry list for the final season. GP2 Asia was created to encourage teams to take drivers from outside Western Europe, and yet, looking through this list, only the usual suspects are represented - England, Italy, France, and so on. Compare that to the inaugural season, which had a Pakistani driver, a Dane, a Malaysian, a Latvian, a Chinese driver, two Indians, a Serbian and a driver from Turkey.
 
I know I've already said this 3 or 4 times already but the only drivers who are even worth giving a go at F1 level are James Calado and Felipe Nasr.

Nearly the entire grid benefitted from many of good drivers of the past couple of years leaving. I fully expected van der Garde to dominate seeing as he was the only driver from last season to stay on who showed any reasonable talent.

Ericsson and Gutierrez were equally very disappointing.

Because of this, it left the door wide open for consistent but nothing special drivers like Razia and Valsecchi to fight for the championship.
If you take all the drivers from 2011 that competed again this year, their positions in the championship are pretty much the same minus the drivers who left. Drivers like Cecotto and Palmer benefitted a lot from so many experienced drivers leaving.

If Filippi or Vietoris had stayed I think this year would have been a very different story.

2013 can only be better with hopefully a lot of decent talent coming from GP3. Thats assuming they don't go to Formula Renault 3.5 like the rest are though..
 
Yeah, GP2 races were nothing worth typing about this year. There's a lot of guys down in there -- while they may love to race -- just don't seem to have that additional talent to rise beyond mid-pack or backmarker status. Nasr was about the only guy that impressed on occasion; Guiterrez looked talented last year, but seemed kind of ordinary this year. Guys like van deGarde or Cecotto should have finally walked over the competition, but were never consistent enough to prove it.

Would like to finally see one of the GP2/GP3 races finally come to North America; I don't recall there ever being a directly-lower formulae (F2, F3, F3000) event come to the Americas, but I suppose they were always intended to be European-only championships to keep costs down.
 
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GP2 races were nothing worth typing about this year.
They might be in 2013, though - the grid is starting to take shape, and there's a few promising drivers in decent seats. It seems that Antonio Felix da Costa's announcement that he will concentrate on Formula Renault 3.5 in 2013 has seen a lot of drivers flock to GP2. This is the line up so far:

DAMS - Marcus Ericsson, Stefane Richelmi
Lotus GP - Daniel Abt, James Calado
Arden International - TBA, TBA
Racing Engineering - TBA, TBA
Carlin - Felipe Nasr, Jolyon Palmer
iSport International - TBA, TBA
Caterham Racing - TBA, TBA
Barwa Addax - Rio Haryanto, TBA
Rapax - Stefano Coletti, TBA
Trident - TBA, TBA
Ocean Racing Technology - TBA, TBA
Venezuela GP Lazarus - TBA, TBA
MP Motorsport - Daniel de Jong, TBA

Nigel Melker has also said that he has secured a drive for 2013, but it hasn't been announced yet. He's been tipped for a decent seat, possibly at Racing Engineering or Barwa Addax. Likewise, Mitch Evans and Johnny Ceccotto Jr. are believed to be vying for seats at Arden, and could get both of them if they can out-bid Simon Trummer (who really needs to go).

The calendar for 2013 has also been released, which is pretty much the same as last year's except that there is now only one round in Bahrain. The series will return to Abu Dhabi for the final round, which I'm looking forward to, because they're produced some goo racing there. GP3 will also go to Abu Dhabi as well.

Would like to finally see one of the GP2/GP3 races finally come to North America; I don't recall there ever being a directly-lower formulae (F2, F3, F3000) event come to the Americas, but I suppose they were always intended to be European-only championships to keep costs down.
I've heard that the original plan for GP2 this year was to go to Montreal and New Jersey, which might be expensive, but it's cheaper than flying out to Asia and back for Sepang in March and Singapore in September. But with the Jersey race being postponed until 2014, the plans for GP2 to go to Montreal and Jersey have been scrapped.
 
The only promising drivers I see there are Calado, Abt and Nasr. Haryanto is a maybe too.
Its make or break for Ericsson and Coletti. Palmer has never been better than average.
 
I thought I might bump this thread, because the GP2 series grid for this year is starting to take shape, and it's actually looking really good. It's probably the strongest it's been in years.

First of all, there have been a few team changes. iSport International has left because they couldn't find fully-funded drivers, and without them, there was a genuine prospect that they would go bankrupt. Their place has been taken by Russian Time (it's a weird name for a team and its meaning hasn't been explained, but the best we can reason out is that it is supposed to mean "Russia's time is now"), which is being run by a Ukrainian venture captialist and the Motopark Academy team that runs Formula 3 cars (so they do actually seem to be pretty serious).

Secondly, Ocean Racing Technology is out, once again for financial problems (Ocean also killed off their GP3 Series team). Their place has been taken by Hilmer Motorsport, a German team run by Franz Hilmer, who runs Formtech GmbH, a "supplier" to several Formula 1 teams, though the exact nature of their business remains unknown. They acquired Super Aguri's assets when the team went bust in 2008, and attempted to enter Formula 1 in 2010 under the Brabham name.

Finally, Scuderia Coloni is out. We've known about this one for some time, but no further details of the circumstances surrounding their exit have been revealed. All we know is that they had some kind of falling-out or disagreement with the organisers (and possibly the other teams) and ended up forefeiting all of their points in 2012. Their place has been taken by Dutch team MP Motorsport.

Onto the grid (so far).

DAMS has taken Marcus Ericsson from iSport and Stephane Richelmi from Trident.

ART Grand Prix have dropped the "Lotus GP" tag. They are keeping James Calado and have taken Daniel Abt from their GP3 Series team.

Arden have recruited Johnny Cecotto Jnr. from Addax, and promoted Mitch Evans from their GP3 Series team.

Racing Engineering are keeping Fabio Leimer, partnering him with Julian Leal from Trident.

Carlin have taken Felipe Nasr and Jolyon Palmer to replace Max Chilton and Rio Haryanto. They've also lost their Marussia backing.

Russian Time have taken Tom Dillmann, who did half a season with Rapax last year before he ran into sponsor troubles. Their second seat remains vacant, but they have been testing Robin Frijns, Luciano Bacheta and Christopher Zanella in the past week.

Caterham GP2 were expected to take Alexander Rossi and Pal Varhaug, but they have instead signed Ma Qinghua and announced that Rossi will be driving for their Formula 1 team during free practice sessions at European races, which will prevent him from racig in GP2. Sergio Canamasas has been testing for them.

Barwa Addax picked up Rio Haryanto (who struggled horrbily in the wet in Barcelona), and kept Jake Rosenzweig, who drove for them in the last few races. Team owner Alejandro Agag is busy with Formula E at the moment, possibly explaining why the team isn't too concerned about getting ultra-talented drivers in the way they once did.

Rapax will keep Stefano Coletti, who drove for them in the last few races of 2012, pairing him up with Simon Trummer, who was very disappointing in 2012 with Arden, but might have made the step up to GP2 too soon.

Trident have not settled on a driver line-up yet. They have variously tested Robin Frijns, Rodolfo Gonzalez and Nathanael Berthon in Barcelona.

Hilmer Motorsport has not settled on a driver line-up, either. They were testing with Tom Dillmann, but his move to Russian Time will be a blow to them. Pal Varhaug has also been testing for them, as has Robin Frijns.

Lazarus is keeping Rene Binder for 2012. Kevin Giovesi has been tipped for the second seat.

MP Motorsport have signed up AutoGP champion Adrian Quaife-Hobbs and Daniel de Jong, who has driven for them in several junior series (including AutoGP and Formula Renault 2.0).
 
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