2016 CTS-V and 2015 Corvette Z07 (brake swap?)

[lGNAl]

Let's get one thing out of the way. The Corvette Z07 is not a model, its a package. And one of those items in that package is carbon-ceramic brakes.

The 2016 Cadillac CTS-V has 15.35 inch front rotors, and 14.3 inch rear rotors. The Z07 package carbon-ceramic brakes on the Corvette are 15.5 inch front rotors, and 15.3 rear rotors.

So in theory the carbon-ceramic rotors from the Z07 should fit in the CTS-V. Unless there's an offset issue. or any other problems like the cars computer (not sure). Both the Corvette and the Cadillac have 19 inch front wheels. But the rear wheels on the Corvette is 20 inches.

Anyone have any ideas about what problems that could face a project, or/and how to solve it/them ??

 

[Heldenzeit]

What's the point? A slightly larger brake rotor isn't going to help that much. Upgrade tires first.

 

[lGNAl]

What's the point? A slightly larger brake rotor isn't going to help that much. Upgrade tires first.

It's way lighter though.

 

[Ibonibo]

What's the point? A slightly larger brake rotor isn't going to help that much. Upgrade tires first.

It's much more than just larger brakes. Ceramic don't fade, hold past the "normal" lifetime of a car, don't squeel as much, way more biting power(fading come in here).... and yeah lighter which for rotational non suspension linked parts is huge....

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You need to consider more than just brake size and offset for the swap. It's doable, lot of things are, you might need to create holders for the caliber, centering rings,.... first you should look at the stock fixing points and diameters. If that is way off it's a lot of work. If not, well it's more than doable

Will the cadi not have ceramic optional? (i have no idea)
First look up the price and look up for after markets ceramics, might be the easier way...

 

[Heldenzeit]

Ah, I misread. Thought the CTS had the carbon brakes as well. Tires are still more important.

 

[Ibonibo]

It would make sense if it had them, and it's likely that even the steel brakes are already good enough...Yes you can easily outperform standard tyres before the brakes 👍

Edit : or maybe not

 

[lGNAl]

It's much more than just larger brakes. Ceramic don't fade, hold past the "normal" lifetime of a car, don't squeel as much, way more biting power(fading come in here).... and yeah lighter which for rotational non suspension linked parts is huge....

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You need to consider more than just brake size and offset for the swap. It's doable, lot of things are, you might need to create holders for the caliber, centering rings,.... first you should look at the stock fixing points and diameters. If that is way off it's a lot of work. If not, well it's more than doable

Will the cadi not have ceramic optional? (i have no idea)
First look up the price and look up for after markets ceramics, might be the easier way...

There's no option because the CEO says its good enough. But as anyone knows with car modification there's almost no limit.

 

[Tornado]

Bolt pattern would probably be the biggest issue, assuming Cadillac didn't go all stupid with the CTS-V hub design like they did with the original CTS-v and STS-v. I know the Corvette 5x4.75 is close enough to the Gen II+ CTS 5x120 that Corvette wheels from "work" on the CTS just like Chrysler 5x114.3 wheels "work" on the virtually omnipresent old GM 5x115; so the brakes could probably similarly "work".




But if I was dropping eight grand into a brake upgrade, I personally wouldn't want to have to screw around with studs not actually being straight on a car I only installed the brakes on to hoon the crap out of anyway.

 

[Epic B]

Let's get one thing out of the way. The Corvette Z07 is not a model, its a package. And one of those items in that package is carbon-ceramic breaks.

The 2016 Cadillac CTS-V has 15.35 inch front rotors, and 14.3 inch rear rotors. The Z07 package carbon-ceramic breaks on the Corvette are 15.5 inch front rotors, and 15.3 rear rotors.

So in theory the carbon-ceramic rotors from the Z07 should fit in the CTS-V. Unless there's an offset issue. or any other problems like the cars computer (not sure). Both the Corvette and the Cadillac have 19 inch front wheels. But the rear wheels on the Corvette is 20 inches.

Anyone have any ideas about what problems that could face a project, or/and how to solve it/them ??

Maybe I'm misreading something, but it sounds like the Z07 rotors wouldn't fit, since the CTS-V has smaller wheels and comes with smaller rotors. But maybe the rotors can fit. I'm not sure how much (if at all) electronics play a part in braking. Why specifically do you want Corvette brakes? I know the Z06 and the CTS-V share the same engine and automatic transmission (And maybe some other things), but why not just get aftermarket brakes? Are you sure the Corvette brakes will fit fine? I think aftermarket brakes would be an easier bet as then you could more easily find brakes you know would fit.

 

[Joey D]

I can't think of a good reason for this. The conversion would be at least $10,000 for the parts if not more. There's other aftermarket kits out there that will give you superior braking performance for less money and actually be made to fit the car.

With that said Rotora sells aftermarket carbon ceramic systems for many luxury cars. They've had kits for the CTS-V in the past for other brake components so they might be worth contacting to see if they have a carbon ceramic option.

I believe Hennessey also puts carbon ceramic brakes on they're tuned CTS-V. Might be worth contacting them to see if they sell a kit.

 

[lGNAl]

Thank you for all the reply's and help guys. I am planning on getting the CTS-V when it comes out here in Saudi. A few weeks-two months after the release date in the United States (mid to late summer). I will checkout the other companies like the one @Joey D suggested.

But I'll see if buying it from an aftermarket brand then shipping it to Saudi would be cheaper, or buying the Z07 breaks from the dealership here in Saudi. But I don't know if the dealership would sell it to me (if they have them in stock) since I don't own a Corvette.

Thanks again, and I'll see what happens when the car arrives.

 

[lGNAl]

I can't think of a good reason for this. The conversion would be at least $10,000 for the parts if not more. There's other aftermarket kits out there that will give you superior braking performance for less money and actually be made to fit the car.

With that said Rotora sells aftermarket carbon ceramic systems for many luxury cars. They've had kits for the CTS-V in the past for other brake components so they might be worth contacting to see if they have a carbon ceramic option.

I believe Hennessey also puts carbon ceramic brakes on they're tuned CTS-V. Might be worth contacting them to see if they sell a kit.

I got a reply from Rotora. I never realized it would be this expensive. As in a just little under quarter of the price of the whole car . The car costs $83,995.

Email detail's:

FRONT:
Forged 8-Piston Caliper/405x36mm (Carbon-Ceramic) Price=$13,995 USD

= $23,990 + shipping​

REAR:
Forged 4-Piston Caliper/380x32mm (Carbon-Ceramic) Price=$9,995 USD


RCCBS (CARBON-CERAMIC) STANDARD COMPONENTS: (PER AXLE)

A SET OF FORGED ALUMINUM, LIGHTWEIGHT CALIPERS: WITH DUST BOOT SEALS

A SET OF CARBON FIBER REINFORCED SILICON CARBIDE (C/SiC) DISCS: CONTINUOUS FIBER CONSTRUCTION WITH FRICTION LAYER

A SET OF FORGED ALUMINUM HATS (6061-T6, BLACK ANODIZE FINISH) WITH ANTI-RATTLE FLOAT DRIVE HARDWARE

A SET OF ALUMINUM (7075-T6) CALIPER BRACKETS, WITH HARDWARE

A SET OF STAINLESS STEEL BRAIDED BRAKE LINES (DOT COMPLIANT), WITH HARDWARE

A SET OF C2 STREET/LIGHT-TRACK COMPOUND FORMULATED SPECIFICALLY FOR RCCBS

We are accepting pre-orders. If you like to pre-order 1 set of front and rear; we can offer you a special discount of 20% off. If interested, please do let me know and I can then go over the details with you further.