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24 Heures du Mans 12th-13th June 2010
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Anyone know where I could find some high-res shots of the weekend?
1. Lamy/Bourdais/Pagenaud - P1 Peugeot 908 - 3:19.711
37. Gavin/Beretta/Collard - GT2 Corvette - 3:59.435 (+39.724)
38. O'Connell/Magnussen/Garcia - GT2 Corvette - 3:59.793 (+40.082)
39. Alesi/Fisichella/Vilander - GT2 AF Corse Ferrari - 3:59.837 (+40.126)
41. Lieb/Lietz/Henzler - GT2 Felbermayr Porsche - 4:01.640 (+41.929)
42. Pilet/Narac/Long - GT2 IMSA Porsche - 4:01.755 (+42.044)
43. Farfus/J Muller/Alzen - GT2 BMW M3 - 4:01.893 (+42.182)
44. Westbrook/Scheider/Holzer - GT2 BMS Porsche - 4:02.014 (+42.303)
45. Farnbacher/Simonsen/Keen - GT2 Hankook Ferrari - 4:02.427 (+42.716)
46. Bergmeister/Law/Neiman - GT2 Fl. Lizard Porsche - 4:02.685 (+42.974)
48. Priaulx/D Muller/Werner - GT2 BMW M3 - 4:03.215 (+43.504)
49. Krohn/Jonsson/van de Poele - GT2 Risi Ferrari - 4:03.959 (+44.248)
50. Coronel/Dumbreck/Bleekemolen - GT2 Spyker - 4:04.057 (+44.346)
51. Bell/Sugden/Miller - GT2 JMW Aston Martin - 4:04.303 (+44.592)
53. v.Splunteren/Hommerson/Machiel - GT2 Prospeed Porsche - 4:10.017 (+50.306)
54. Felbermayr/Felbermayr/Konopka - GT2 Felbermayr Porsche - 4:10.054 (+50.343)
55. Goossens/Dalziel/Gentilozzi - GT2 Jaguar XKR - 4m12.431 (+52.720)
56. Salo/Russo/Companc - GT2 AF Corse Ferrari - withdrawn
Got this from Autosport, if it helps:
1. Lamy/Bourdais/Pagenaud - P1 Peugeot 908 - 3:19.711
37. Gavin/Beretta/Collard - GT2 Corvette - 3:59.435 (+39.724)
38. O'Connell/Magnussen/Garcia - GT2 Corvette - 3:59.793 (+40.082)
39. Alesi/Fisichella/Vilander - GT2 AF Corse Ferrari - 3:59.837 (+40.126)
41. Lieb/Lietz/Henzler - GT2 Felbermayr Porsche - 4:01.640 (+41.929)
42. Pilet/Narac/Long - GT2 IMSA Porsche - 4:01.755 (+42.044)
43. Farfus/J Muller/Alzen - GT2 BMW M3 - 4:01.893 (+42.182)
44. Westbrook/Scheider/Holzer - GT2 BMS Porsche - 4:02.014 (+42.303)
45. Farnbacher/Simonsen/Keen - GT2 Hankook Ferrari - 4:02.427 (+42.716)
46. Bergmeister/Law/Neiman - GT2 Fl. Lizard Porsche - 4:02.685 (+42.974)
48. Priaulx/D Muller/Werner - GT2 BMW M3 - 4:03.215 (+43.504)
49. Krohn/Jonsson/van de Poele - GT2 Risi Ferrari - 4:03.959 (+44.248)
50. Coronel/Dumbreck/Bleekemolen - GT2 Spyker - 4:04.057 (+44.346)
51. Bell/Sugden/Miller - GT2 JMW Aston Martin - 4:04.303 (+44.592)
53. v.Splunteren/Hommerson/Machiel - GT2 Prospeed Porsche - 4:10.017 (+50.306)
54. Felbermayr/Felbermayr/Konopka - GT2 Felbermayr Porsche - 4:10.054 (+50.343)
55. Goossens/Dalziel/Gentilozzi - GT2 Jaguar XKR - 4m12.431 (+52.720)
56. Salo/Russo/Companc - GT2 AF Corse Ferrari - withdrawn
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Yes it does, thanks.
Glad to see the Vettes in 2nd and 3rd, I hope they win. This is also the 50th anniversary of Corvettes at Le Mans.
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Did Ferrari just vanish? Its quite clearly a Ferrari F430 on pole for GT2....
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84309
2 mm, the difference between pole position and back of the field ... not that it matters much in a 24 hour race, but pole gives you bragging rights
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Interesting...hmmm. Normally I would be cheering a Corvette 1-2 in qualifying, but it's slightly hollow when it comes when an opponent is pinged for a technicality. However, am I right in saying that the Corvettes were only 1 or 2 tenths off the Ferrari's DQed pole time? I have a feeling the GT2 battle will be like Laguna Seca all over again...i.e. an absolute festival of great racing! Bring it on!
Also good to see the Marc VDS GT up there, I've had a nice affinity to Bas Leinders since I started watching FIA GT1 racing this year, especially after his rant about that silly Maserati driver at Brno (can't remember his name) - earnt him a lot of respect from me, I always like it when a driver doesn't mince his words. I had the same effect after hearing Helio Castroneves in the Indycars at Texas. Good to see the GTs doing well, and am I right in saying that the Aston Martins are still the fastest petrol cars in the field, behind the Peugeot-Audi duopoly?
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Struth!
I didn't realise the Ferrari had been punished for an infringement. It doesn't mean 🤬 in terms of the race, but it's nice to know they have outright pace too.Yes Falcon787B, they were only a couple tenths off.
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Awesome! I honestly think this year's GT2 finish will resemble the Le Mans 1969 Finale...still the closest finish in Le Mans history, as far as I know
Watch that finish here and skip to 6 minutes to watch the final laps. Awesome stuff.
Not sure it's gonna quite be a 2007 Sebring 12Hrs finale...but it's gonna be a titanic battle for sure!
Watch that finish here and skip to 6 minutes to watch the final laps. Awesome stuff.
Not sure it's gonna quite be a 2007 Sebring 12Hrs finale...but it's gonna be a titanic battle for sure!
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one-lap-pace doesn't tell us much anyway. As an example, if your car is a couple of secs slower than the fastest one, but is more efficient using fuel an tyres, and/or has zero problems throughout the entire race, you have a simple math to do, based on something like 385 laps (last year's winner did 382):
- 2 secs per lap x 385 = 770 seconds = about 13 minutes
So, you can have the faster car, but if you have, in the entire race, to give it more "maintenance" time, and/or a few more visits to the pits ... you can loose, most probably you WILL loose the race.
So, when lap differences are counted in tenths, like in the GT2 class, where the first 4 cars were separated by litle over half a second ...
What really (only) matters is who has the most reliable and efficient car. If you know the answer to this you probably know who the winner will be.
- 2 secs per lap x 385 = 770 seconds = about 13 minutes
So, you can have the faster car, but if you have, in the entire race, to give it more "maintenance" time, and/or a few more visits to the pits ... you can loose, most probably you WILL loose the race.
So, when lap differences are counted in tenths, like in the GT2 class, where the first 4 cars were separated by litle over half a second ...
What really (only) matters is who has the most reliable and efficient car. If you know the answer to this you probably know who the winner will be.
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Well, I think the GT2 class will see the least percentage of DNF´s of the four classes. Pretty much all cars are quite reliable - the exception probably is the Jaguar, so all in all it will come down to smaller hickups, such as punctures and slight runoffs.
Corvette is a proven outfit, but the cars are fairly new, will that have an effect?
The Ferraris are also proven endurance racers, but looking at their pace in qually, the only ones really competitive was Bruni and co.
The Porsches seemed a bit off the qually pace, but will they be more at home during the race?
The BMW´s? I´m pretty sure they´ll be there at the end, but will they have the pace needed?
The Spyker is quite far off in pace, but if they can keep it a clean race, who knows?
The Aston and the Jag seem troubled in some way, and personally I think the Jaguar will be the first retiree in the race - counting all classes.
Corvette is a proven outfit, but the cars are fairly new, will that have an effect?
The Ferraris are also proven endurance racers, but looking at their pace in qually, the only ones really competitive was Bruni and co.
The Porsches seemed a bit off the qually pace, but will they be more at home during the race?
The BMW´s? I´m pretty sure they´ll be there at the end, but will they have the pace needed?
The Spyker is quite far off in pace, but if they can keep it a clean race, who knows?
The Aston and the Jag seem troubled in some way, and personally I think the Jaguar will be the first retiree in the race - counting all classes.
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The JLOC Lambo is surely the favourite there.
Strange how the R15s are quicker, and more comfortable, at night
Looking at their past history, surely, but the the RSR jaguar has been in trouble ever since it hit the track at le Mans, whereas the JLOC outfit only have been really slow
The Audicamp were still setting the cars up for the race during the qualifyings, so I´m sure that is why they were faster at a later stage. Other than that, the cool air during the night does give the cars a few extra ponies.
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Strange how the R15s are quicker, and more comfortable, at night
Indeed. I was about to say the Audi drivers may be quicker in the night, but no point saying this kind of rubbish. Peugeot seem to have recruited some of the fastest, if not the fastest drivers of the grid. Next in line I'm wondering if temperatures is what does it. We all know the air gets cooler and they develop more power, but I'm wondering if there is more to it than that and if Audi are able to gain more advantages out of this cooler air than Peugeot.
I've got to give a huge thumbs up for the Marc VDS Racing team, I can't wait to see the Belgians in action on Saturday. Those Fords really are doing very strong in GT1, great stuff! 👍
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! If you can see clearer than others... might help to go fast too ! No small details in this kind of competition !
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Just asking if anyone knows the qualifying results for the Porsche Carrera Cup and Group C Legends Race because I have tried to find it but had no luck. Also cannot wait for Eurosport's coverage of the Group C Legends race on Saturday morning.
Not surprised with the news that the new GT1 Class cars will not be in next year's Le Mans and the ACO have accepted a single class of GT2 which will be a two-tier system being used.
LINK: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84307
Not surprised with the news that the new GT1 Class cars will not be in next year's Le Mans and the ACO have accepted a single class of GT2 which will be a two-tier system being used.
LINK: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84307
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This all I found in the official site:
http://www.lemans.org/en/news/Matmut-Porsche-Carrera-Cup-Qualifying_644.html
http://www.lemans.org/en/news/Group-C--1-Hour-Qualifying-Session-_641.html
http://www.lemans.org/en/news/Matmut-Porsche-Carrera-Cup-Qualifying_644.html
http://www.lemans.org/en/news/Group-C--1-Hour-Qualifying-Session-_641.html
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Yes, but the R15s were faster during the night last year too, but from what the commentators were saying, the R15 seems to be easier and more comfortable during the night too, not just in regard to engine power. Also, if it was just down to the engine gaining power, why didn't any of the 908s, or the R10s, improve during the night?
And I'm not sure it's just down to lights either. All the top drivers will know their way around the circuit, day or night, and the corners are lit up to a certain extent too.
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I think the Audis are still going to need more then just darkness to win the race. They seem to be stronger then the Puegots in the rain so they should be doing some rain dances in the pit lanes if they want to win this race.
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It looks like GT2 cars performance will improve next year.
The ACO are no longer going to cut power to control top speeds instead fitting the cars with speed limiters of some sort.
This should mean 2011 GT2 cars will produce 500bhp+ rather than the sub 500bhp they run now.
The cars will also be allowed to run paddle shifts.
http://www.planetlemans.com/2010/06/10/the-aco-press-conference-a-look-at-the-future/
The ACO are no longer going to cut power to control top speeds instead fitting the cars with speed limiters of some sort.
This should mean 2011 GT2 cars will produce 500bhp+ rather than the sub 500bhp they run now.
The cars will also be allowed to run paddle shifts.
http://www.planetlemans.com/2010/06/10/the-aco-press-conference-a-look-at-the-future/
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So much technical freedom is allowed in P1 there needs to be some room to allow cars to develop, within 5 years they'll be as quick as they are now.Too bad next year LMP1 will run on LMP2 specksI don't mind evolution I even encourage it but why tune down the cars ? I understand hybrid moves in and that is a good thing but still - they could leave LMP1 cars as they are right now.
In addition since they tune down LMP2 its pointless to tuning down LMP1 due to one reason - in my opinion - class difference - I mean - leaving LMP1 cars as they are would make the difference otherwise its just making the race (series) slower :/ Of course, I suspect, I'm wrong so please correct me if I am, I am not a technical master, just like to watch racing
It's the same reason F1 regs change so regularly.
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I suppose I will make some predictions
LMP1: Audi, they'll git 'r done this year
LMP2: any HPD powered car, Porsche doesn't stand a chance
GT1: this class still exists?
GT2: as much as I want Corvette Racing to win, it will likely be Risi, but because Porsche will refuse to race Mini, i'd like to see the BMWs beat the Porsches
LMP1: Audi, they'll git 'r done this year
LMP2: any HPD powered car, Porsche doesn't stand a chance
GT1: this class still exists?
GT2: as much as I want Corvette Racing to win, it will likely be Risi, but because Porsche will refuse to race Mini, i'd like to see the BMWs beat the Porsches
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There were no RS Spyders entered this year.
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Exactly jk.
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Allan McNish Diary. Final part he explains what he does all week, ending with 15 PM Saturday (about it he only says "Rock'nRoll", ). Busy week for the guys, but it's interesting to hear about it first hand
And David Brabham's latest video blog entry, a bit dated already (paddock tour on wednesday morning), but it is funny that he meets his own car from the 2009 edition (the winning 2009 car)
). Busy week for the guys, but it's interesting to hear about it first hand And David Brabham's latest video blog entry, a bit dated already (paddock tour on wednesday morning), but it is funny that he meets his own car from the 2009 edition (the winning 2009 car)
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