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This article was published by Andrew Evans (@Famine) on January 17th, 2018 in the Automotive News category.
You could get six Jeep Wrangler Rubicons and still have 19,800 left over if you lived in Canada. That car isn't exactly a slouch off-road either, and you won't be afraid to take the Jeep off-road or abuse it a bit. Makes this Defender a bit of a pointless investment outside of being a garage queen.
This Defender is fairly overpriced, but it's a "collectors" car that will probably live most of it's life in a garage. However, a used Defender is totally worth the price, even here in the US. They are very capable vehicles and probably better suited to some off-road situations than a Wrangler out of the box.
Ya but then you'd have to deal with Jeep Brahs and being in on that thing only Jeep people understand for some reason![]()
This Defender is fairly overpriced, but it's a "collectors" car that will probably live most of it's life in a garage. However, a used Defender is totally worth the price, even here in the US. They are very capable vehicles and probably better suited to some off-road situations than a Wrangler out of the box.
Am I the only one who's thinking at least 3 of the speeds on this vehicle are completely wasted on a vehicle with 399 hp and a governor-limited top speed of 106 mph?
Is 399hp relevant because it should be ample power to cope with larger gear splits, or is 399hp relevant because it's not nearly enough power to take advantage of the ridiculously high top speed an 8-speed presumably allows?Am I the only one who's thinking at least 3 of the speeds on this vehicle are completely wasted on a vehicle with 399 hp and a governor-limited top speed of 106 mph?
I'd think that 399 hp would be sufficient to get a vehicle to 106 mph rather quickly and still have acceptable gas mileage without 8 gears.Is 399hp relevant because it should be ample power to cope with larger gear splits, or is 399hp relevant because it's not nearly enough power to take advantage of the ridiculously high top speed an 8-speed presumably allows?
I suspect the 8HP70 (whuch I assume is the model selected, as it's already used in the Range Rover Sport and should cope with the available power and demanding situations without resorting to the 75 or 90) was chosen for optimal gearing in all conditions. I'd prefer a proper manual, though an auto can be handy for maintaining momentum without, however briefly, interrupting steering control.
Fuel efficiency isn't the only consideration where gearing is concerned when you're looking at a vehicle's ability to navigate less-than-ideal terrain and conditions. While the 8HP may not be necessary, I genuinely believe it affords more opportunities than the 6HP.I'd think that 399 hp would be sufficient to get a vehicle to 106 mph rather quickly and still have acceptable gas mileage without 8 gears.
I'd think that 399 hp would be sufficient to get a vehicle to 106 mph rather quickly and still have acceptable gas mileage without 8 gears.