Toyota Supra GT4 Concept Race Car to Debut in Geneva

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Toyota Supra GT4 Concept Race Car to Debut in Geneva

This article was published by Andrew Evans (@Famine) on March 1st, 2019 in the Automotive News category.

 

[symaski62]

wow ! gran turismo sport 03/05/2019 update

 

[Fabr_123]

So many racing variations of this car. Hope to see all of them on track soon.

 

[MisterWaffles]

I’ve always wondered how fast a modern GT4/TCR car would be against a GT3 car from the 2005 era?

Either way I think these classes need to tone down on speed a bit or at least attempt to keep some consistency because there’s a new EVO kit coming out every week in GT3 and they’re getting exponentially faster. Also GT4 is filled with supercars now. When it started out it was pretty much just Mustangs, 370s, Caymans and so on.

 

[05XR8]

I’ve always wondered how fast a modern GT4/TCR car would be against a GT3 car from the 2005 era?

Either way I think these classes need to tone down on speed a bit or at least attempt to keep some consistency because there’s a new EVO kit coming out every week in GT3 and they’re getting exponentially faster. Also GT4 is filled with supercars now. When it started out it was pretty much just Mustangs, 370s, Caymans and so on.

I agree with a trimming of horsepower. True about the cars that debuted, but the Aston N24 and Lotus 111R were some of the originals to the series. So, as much as I'd prefer each manufacturer race their 3-box sedan versions, bring whatever is going to keep them interested in the series.

I feel the wings and canards should be banned and go back to road car appearance:

Even the A90 was first raced without aero bits

 

[GTFan24]

Great to see Toyota giving tons of care and attention to the Supra, im expecting them to have it racing in GT3 and 4 series' by 2021

 

[05XR8]

Great to see Toyota giving tons of care and attention to the Supra, im expecting them to have it racing in GT3 and 4 series' by 2021

Shoot. I want to see it racing in the B12H next year!

 

[Morbid65]

Either way I think these classes need to tone down on speed a bit or at least attempt to keep some consistency because there’s a new EVO kit coming out every week in GT3 and they’re getting exponentially faster. Also GT4 is filled with supercars now. When it started out it was pretty much just Mustangs, 370s, Caymans and so on.

I feel very much that way about where GT4 has gone.

In my opinion, it should be a class for sub-$60k cars (or maybe $65k) so it can include sports coupes like the M4 and cars like the Cayman. ZL1s and GT350s are even overkill for where I wish the class was at.

Now that it has fallen that direction it is gaining some of the issues that GT3 racing has as well, mainly with a customer bias towards perceived "cool" super cars and manufacturers with more "plain" models that actually fit in better with the old GT4 model falling well behind in sales (like Nissan is in GT3), and smaller tuning companies and specialist manufacturers starting to get pushed out.

The best version of GT4 was actually CTSCC GS class around 2010... I really wish that would have been the model they followed instead of letting the class become GT3-lite.

 

[05XR8]

I feel very much that way about where GT4 has gone.

In my opinion, it should be a class for sub-$60k cars (or maybe $65k) so it can include sports coupes like the M4 and cars like the Cayman. ZL1s and GT350s are even overkill for where I wish the class was at.

Now that it has fallen that direction it is gaining some of the issues that GT3 racing has as well, mainly with a customer bias towards perceived "cool" super cars and manufacturers with more "plain" models that actually fit in better with the old GT4 model falling well behind in sales (like Nissan is in GT3), and smaller tuning companies and specialist manufacturers starting to get pushed out.

The best version of GT4 was actually CTSCC GS class around 2010... I really wish that would have been the model they followed instead of letting the class become GT3-lite.

I loved those years with the RX-8s, Boxsters, etc. Production car racing needs that GT type exposure.
GT4 was like that, as noted above, with the 350Z, Mustang, C6, TT fwd, M3, Z4, 911, Lotus 2-Eleven.

Remember, the MX-5 and 86 are still homologated for GT4. THere is an Abarth 124 GT4 testing as well.

The major problem are the wings. I'm watching the R8 LMS cup right now. R8 GT3 and R8 GT4 racing together. The GT4 looks bone stock, but has a wing out back. Just delete that. In Australian Production car racing, cars look stock. From the M3 & M4 to the AMG A45.

 

[im_seb30]

I think the same, there's even a Hyundai Genesis Coupe V6 GT4 from a Italian Team. The series is loosing its main purpose.