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This is the discussion thread for a recent post on GTPlanet:
This article was published by Andrew Evans (@Famine) on July 1st, 2019 in the Gran Turismo Sport category.
First off, I think blame the players not the game. I think it's silly to expect anyone to predict how cheaters will game a system.
But basic rules and penalty system as they are now are illogical. They are not real motor sport rules, they not the same rules as 1 player mode, they feel pretty arbitrary, strict in some areas, non-existent in others.
A good game needs clear rules. A good sport needs a fair spirit.
Make the rules clear and the racing fair and the community can adapt to that. Not a lot to go on at the moment.
I watched that Goodwood race and had to replay the Brooks/Suguwara incident a few times. I was somewhat baffled that a penalty wasn't doled out.
I’m baffled that Brooks got taken out of competitive positions in almost every single race and nothing was done about it. He should be given an honorary invite to the next event.
He should be given an honorary invite to the next event.
I watched that Goodwood race and had to replay the Brooks/Suguwara incident a few times. I was somewhat baffled that a penalty wasn't doled out.
This is really kind of you to say, so thanks for that, but I am not special. Alot of people have bad luck in this game (although mine was a bit extreme) and I think that the top priority should shift to helping to solve the problem so that nobody else has to deal with the situation that I was put in during future events.I’m baffled that Brooks got taken out of competitive positions in almost every single race and nothing was done about it. He should be given an honorary invite to the next event.
This is one of the incidents I refer to in the article - we can't exactly say what happened either, but 10th and 11th came into the final chicane braking alongside each other, 11th passed and, somehow, the other car lost three seconds. This all happened off-screen between the braking zone for the chicane and the final corner. @Jimmy B actually mentioned it on the broadcast, before we cut to speaking to Igor.Another example was an incident that took place between Beauvois and Pounder on the last lap of Semi final A. I saw one of their screens at the event and one of them appeared to be pit maneuvering the other (although I could not tell at the time who the victim was, nor could I see how the contact was initiated). And since it was not shown on the live stream, nobody has any idea what happened between them and there were no penalties given out. A replay feature that is publicly available could have helped in situations like this one.
IMO a warning for quitting was appropriate. These are a handful of player spots out of tens of thousands competing online. It is a true privilege to be there and Polyphony are also putting on a broadcast beamed out to thousands online. Quitting should not be tolerated, no matter how poorly a race goes (and I saw it too, he was robbed). Simply cannot have players that will quit during events. Now, to be fair, a future event ban might have been harsh given the circumstances, so a warning seems appropriate.Yeah, he should be given an honorary invite. Instead he gets an honorary ban warning for quitting the repechage. Funny how the stewards address issues.
IMO a warning for quitting was appropriate. These are a handful of player spots out of tens of thousands competing online. It is a true privilege to be there and Polyphony are also putting on a broadcast beamed out to thousands online. Quitting should not be tolerated, no matter how poorly a race goes (and I saw it too, he was robbed). Simply cannot have players that will quit during events. Now, to be fair, a future event ban might have been harsh given the circumstances, so a warning seems appropriate.
I cannot take this seriously until I see a more diverse cast of stewards. I can’t confirm this but I have to assume they are all Japanese because of Brook’s story (they sent a Japanese person with a translator to warn him) and, being cynical, my bias senses are tingling. In manufacturers, the Toyota has way to much top end for what it is. We wouldn’t have had the final corner incident on the ‘ring if the Toyota wasn’t so damn fast. Or at the very least it would be more cut and dry. In the semifinals nations cup race, pole had the Supra in supposedly random car drawings. But in that same race a Japanese driver dive-bombed an American for the final spot in the repicharge race and nothing happens. Then of course in the first repicharge brooks was clearly pushed wide by a Japanese driver, and it was a racing incident. None of these are particularly bad on there own, but together I question the legitimacy of this event.
Lexus?? Or have you forgotten about the results of the first two races? BTW, i don't subscribe to the bias theory but your retort was rather weak. Also, congrats on the win. You are one calm dude given the pressure at the end of the race.That Toyota bias must've run out when they chose two power circuits for the first two manufacturer races.
Lexus?? Or have you forgotten about the results of the first two races? BTW, i don't subscribe to the bias theory but your retort was rather weak. Also, congrats on the win. You are one calm dude given the pressure at the end of the race.
I’ll give you Sainte-Croix, but Sardegna? A power circuit? The gr.4 Toyota was unlucky, but it made a ton of passes during that race and got caught up in a few incidents. And the gr.3 Toyota isn’t really a “power car.” It handles well, similar pace to the Corvette. But it is a solid 5+ mph quicker without draft. Also, if you follow daily races, last week was gr.1 at Le Mans. And with the recent physics update, the Toyota went from the slowest lmp1 to the best by far, at least on that track. So Toyota does get the blessing of bop. And basing “bias” off of track selection is dumb. That would be some next level crazy if the event was rigged like that. I don’t necessarily believe the event is rigged, I just question the intent of the stewards.That Toyota bias must've run out when they chose two power circuits for the first two manufacturer races.