A Desperate case

[mytton]

Let me just begin with saying that I have done a ton of practice, drifting almost everyday for this past week.

I've gotten to a point where I can initiate the drift, and on simple turns I can generally counter-steer well and and pull out of the drift at the end.

However, I feel like I cannot control my drifts. No matter what I try, I can't get my car to follow through a relatively large corner while drifting and while remaining on the road, and I can't control the length of my drifts.

So far I've been approaching this with the feint technique by braking, feinting, braking slightly again while turning into the corner, hitting the gas right after that braking, feathering, then hitting the gas on the exit.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong. On the hairpins of Tsukuba for example, I go into a slide as I'm entering the corner but then just follow the line perpendicular to the direction my car is facing and into the dirt. I can't get my car to follow the shape of the hairpin all while drifting.

I'm at a dead end here, so I would really appreciate any detailed help.
Oh, and I'm using a DFGT wheel.

 

[SteezMachine]

How much hp is in your car ?

 

[teh luckinator]

what's your force feedback settings at? i'm on dfgt too, mine are 10 ffb and power assist off. you might like that, try it if you're not doing it already.

 

[BlackIce90]

i had the sliding sideways problem when i started. i learned that you need to get your weight to transfer over to kick the back end out kind of like the question mark shape ? think of the question mark when you want to kick out ur tail. Im using a controller. i have a wheel and i use it for everything except drifting, just cuz the force feedback screws up my counter steer. (but im slowly getting the hang of it so ur ahead of me) i say try using the controller just to understand the physics of drifting within the game. easier to make quick countersteering movements with the controller. also use your brake to try to kick out the tail too (combine it with the weight transfer and youll be drifting like a pro)

goodluck

 

[slimreaper]

Are you using an FR car or 4wd? The techniques used different between 4wd and FR. I ask this because if your using 4wd, you may be counter steering way too much. if your using FR it maybe your corner entry speed is too high. I might be wrong, but the most important thing you have to do in either case... keep practicing.

A good way to practice drift angles and speeds is to go to a nice wide track. (Top Gear TT or Daytona) and just start doing doughnuts, and using counter steer and throttle control to slowly increase the diameter of the doughnuts.

Feel free to send me an invite (PSN slimreaper1) and i'd be happy to follow you round and try to give you some tips to get you heading in the right direction.
Goodluck

 

[pergatory]

Without seeing a video or something, it's hard to say exactly what you're doing wrong. Your entry speed might be too high. Entry speed is everything in drifting. The rest is just follow-through.

You also might be trying to power through understeer and that can have the same effect of pushing you out of the corner rather than turning into it. If the car is understeering there are lots of techniques to get it to rotate without gunning it. If you gun it and the car doesn't rotate, try lifting the throttle for a second and then getting right back on it again. It'll shift weight off the back wheels long enough for you to acquire a better angle.

Lastly, there are lots of techniques for throwing your weight into the corner initially which help you overcome understeer as well. If you really want to improve, go watch The Drift Bible by Keiichi Tsuchiya. He very extensively covers all the various ways to enter a drift such as power slide, e-brake, clutch kick, etc.

 

[mytton]

Hmmm, this is interesting. I was using the Amemiya RX-7 for a while when I posted this. I then switched to my AE86 Trueno SS and found that it was much easier to control the car's drifts around Tsukuba.

I think my trouble is that I can't really control the shape of the drift, so I'll spend some time trying to figure that out.

Thanks a lot for the feedback guys.

 

[SteezMachine]

Yeah. Just play around with a lower hp car and learn some techniques with that then if you feeling fancy up the hp. But each car has its own characteristics