A friendly "Forza vs Gran Turismo" thread

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Greetings to you all.

It´s been a long time since I havn´t participated in this forum. There is something I would like to discuss, or rather have an opinion from GT5 or Forza players. I rather have a neutral opinion coming from real car enthusiasts like me, rather than fanatics (fanboys, lets say) from an specific title.

As a car enthusiast, I´m searching for a game that really fulfills my needs. I´ve been a faithful Gran Turismo player since 1998, and been playing GT5 since release date. But now, even after this wonderful update and DLC pack, I still feel quite unsatisfied. Nevertheless, still play GT5 at least 4 hours daily, and I can´t get enough.

I´ve never really played Forza, but one time at some random guy´s house I did play Forza 3. The game doesn´t feel or looks as good as GT5, but it feels comfortable enought to enjoy it at the same level.

Here´s the thing:

I´ve seen the car list of Forza 4 and my jaw was litteraly touching the floor while I did. Even thought there are less cars, the list feels much bigger. The funny thing is that they have the cars that we are asking for in GT5. Turn 10 added those cars almost like if they were mocking PD. Have anyone seen the BMW list? All M3´s! All M5´s(except F10 which is DLC), and that´s just an example. Somehow, the list looks much like the one I posted a year ago, suggesting on how PD should select cars.

As for the image quality of the game, there is no doubt that GT5 is superior. But Forza looks better than any other car game (when not comparing to GT5).

In physics, Forza (at least the one I tried), even without assists, feels like an arcade game. Nevertheless, it feels nice and it´s definitely not broken in it´s physics like NFS. This is a game that lets you enjoy the ride. Never like GT5, but at least, it works.

Sounds. For me, GT5 sounds are underestimated by many. So far GT5 sound effects are the best I´ve heard in any car game(since Prologue acctually), but where it fails its in the sound sample selection. Many cars have an engine sound that does´nt even match the type of engine the car has. Plus, when changing the exhaust, it´s like doing an engine swap. Forza on the other hand, does not have the quality of GT5, but it completly destroys it with sound samples. It seems that Turn 10 has a more knowledgeable personel on the sound capturing deparment. Games like NFS beat GT5 on this aspect as well, but unfortunatly the sounds are so exagerated, and in the case of Shift, they sound broken, distorted and heavily satturated, thus making the experience more of a pain than an enjoyment. Forza sounds are a little exagerated, but it´s better balanced and more descrete than NFS. In this case, I rather have authenticity on the samples than a super fancy 7.1 surround sound. What good is it to have this beautiful high definition sound in GT5, with it´s nicely done doppler effect and all, when your RM Corvette sounds like it has V6 under the hood?

As for replay value, I can´t compare since I havn´t really played Forza more than a few laps. Forza players will need to tell me. But as far as I can see, Forza offeres much more than GT5. If GT5 had an event/prize system like in GT4, I would highly doubt Forza is better. Then again, I don´t really know what Forza has to offer in aspects such as tunning, customization, event progression or prize system. I really doubt there is much that it can be done as far as I can see in vids. Other than putting a nice set of wheels, aero parts and such.

So as a car enthusiast: is it really worth to buy a 360 with Forza 4, while we wait for the next Spec update of GT5, or new DLC? Ir is it a waste of money like NFS, which is a game that at least in my case, after one hour playing Shift 1 and 2, I wanted to give the discs to my dog so he could chew on them. Those titles are a disgrace for the car fandom.

What´s your opinion?
 
Despite your apparent best intentions with the thread title, "friendly" is not likely to last very long, and there is already a comparison thread in the Forza forums (not a friendly one), but people cannot discuss this without getting passionate and eventually angry. The result is the thread will probably be locked.


From what I gather Forza 4 looks like an awesome game, but its more along the semi-sim lines than GT5 due its built in aids to help gamepad users (inside sim racing talked a lot about it). But if you ask many PC hardcore sim racers they would consider GT5 a semi sim or even arcade game.

I don't share that view, but in many situations with GT5 I would agree with them, where as in other situations I find GT5 is a fantastic and amazing simulation game.


When the views start to clash, the thread will crash.
 
Friendly Forza vs. GT thread? Not possible, I expect a flamewar to break out in the first few pages.
 
Buy a 360 and Forza 4, that way you can enjoy both Forza and Gran Turismo. I bought a 360 specifically for the Forza series and have not regretted it one bit.


Parker
 
Let's blend them, see what happens when you mix the Happy Thread and the Angry Thread..
 
Despite your apparent best intentions with the thread title, "friendly" is not likely to last very long, and there is already a comparison thread in the Forza forums (not a friendly one), but people cannot discuss this without getting passionate and eventually angry. The result is the thread will probably be locked.


From what I gather Forza 4 looks like an awesome game, but its more along the semi-sim lines than GT5 due its built in aids to help gamepad users (inside sim racing talked a lot about it). But if you ask many PC hardcore sim racers they would consider GT5 a semi sim or even arcade game.

I don't share that view, but in many situations with GT5 I would agree with them, where as in other situations I find GT5 is a fantastic and amazing simulation game.


When the views start to clash, the thread will crash.

I know there is a lot of Forza vs GT threads, but as I was reading on a couple of them, there are only people fighting over nonesense. I agree that this this will probably be my first locked thread, but at least I tried.

Thanks for your opinion. I didn´t expect someone to reply in a corteous matter.
 
Buy a 360 and Forza 4, that way you can enjoy both Forza and Gran Turismo. I bought a 360 specifically for the Forza series and have not regretted it one bit.


Parker

Will definitely take your advice.



Edit: Double post. My appologies. It´s been a long time.
 
I know there is a lot of Forza vs GT threads, but as I was reading on a couple of them, there are only people fighting over nonesense. I agree that this this will probably be my first locked thread, but at least I tried.

Thanks for your opinion. I didn´t expect someone to reply in a corteous matter.

Yea that thread is in the FM section and it's hardcore :lol: It would be cool if people could debate both games but I doubt it. @ husky make sure you don't double post( gets the mod attention in a bad way :lol:) just use the edit button. 👍
 
HuskyGT, I know that you mean well, but this thread's days are numbered before the whole thing turns into a giant flame war.
It's like a ticking time bomb.
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It would be great if this could stay friendly, maybe you could get a mod to help you clean it up when it gets bad. 👍
 
This CAN stay friendly, but what is there to debate?

Versus usually means against, you know? This thread is probably to tell people to get a hint, to me included lol.

Alls fair, but I still don't know where this thread could go.
 
If money isn't a big issue, then go for it. I know I would, but for me I just don't have enough money or time to invest in a new console and racing sim, especially when considering I still love and often play GT5. I'm most jealous of the awesome livery editor in Forza 4, but I'm not about to lay down $300+ to make some pretty logos/decals.

As far as quality, it's totally personal preference. You can read as many reviews you want but it'll just come down to how you feel about it. Hopefully you can try it out before making any decisions.
 
I'm always a die hard GT fan but honestly I got to admit Forza 4 is the best racing sim this generation. F4 got rave reviews even from strick critics. GT5 is okay but for a game 5 years in a making it is incomplete and also lack more exotic European and American cars. And the standard cars really looks bad even if the premium looks like Ps4 quality. The tracks and backgrounds graphics and physics are inconsistent. Consistency if what gt 5 lacks. Forza for now is the winner but i believe gt6 will be the best since they already learned from there mistakes.
 
I'm always a die hard GT fan but honestly I got to admit Forza 4 is the best racing sim this generation. F4 got rave reviews even from strick critics. GT5 is okay but for a game 5 years in a making it is incomplete and also lack more exotic European and American cars. And the standard cars really looks bad even if the premium looks like Ps4 quality. The tracks and backgrounds graphics and physics are inconsistent. Consistency if what gt 5 lacks. Forza for now is the winner but i believe gt6 will be the best since they already learned from there mistakes.

Please... Stop calling Forza a simulator.
 
And the standard cars really looks bad even if the premium looks like Ps4 quality. The tracks and backgrounds graphics and physics are inconsistent.
The standard cars don't look so bad since the Spec 2.0 update, and how are the track graphics and physics inconsistent?

KER-FRICKIN-BLAM
 
I think alot of the die-hard Forza fans are moving off to Jordans new site.
Forzaplanet.net

Not saying there wouldn't be strong opinions in this thread. I just wouldn't want to see another thread like the one in the Forza section.
 
Oh wow...the possibility of a friendly GT-Forza discussion. (no sarcasm)


I say Forza and GT are both superb, but I feel that Forza lacks in its physics due to the "one handed driving" features- which is fine for those who do have disabilities.

But when it comes to wanted content- Forza wins hands down. Reading Forza 4's car list made me quiver- all the muscle and exotic European supercars one could want and thensome. GT5 still lacks there...sadly.

This is why I own a (now banned) Xbox and a PS3. I bought a PS3 specifically for GT5 and so far, I don't regret it (though I could really build up my game collection).
 
This is my short simple opinion. PD has to deal with 1000+ cars. Turn 10 deals with About 500. What company do you think is going to have a easier time fine tuning their game?
 
GT is the authentic simulator, FORZA is a good game.

i would like to see "FORZA academy" or something like it. No offense,FORZA's Nurburgring is the biggest joke i've ever seen.

FORZA should push GT harder...
 
its simple.

Forza = having cars nearly everyone wants, all "premium", more tracks.

GT = better physics, day/night, more cars

In the end, Forza looks better on paper but gameplay wise GT takes it hands down. no trolling intended, but either way Forza fanboys will hunt me down.
 
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