Abortion image search, disturbing results of this current issue at hand today.

[Delirious]

I'm not so much concerned on the opinions of abortion (most shouldn't have to guess what I believe about it)

I unknowingly went to google and searched for abortion, and with safesearch on, I did the image search...

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Words could not describe what I saw...I immediately closed the browser.

Well also I'm kind of squeamish and don't like looking at violent pictures...

But that search was worse than any violent movie or video game I've ever seen heard or played (Remember, I became a Christian at the age of 18, I'm now 21...everything I had seen to that point is what I am referring to)

I don't really intend this to turn into a heated moral discussion on the rights of it (not that I would try to change your minds...probably wouldn't work)

But it just baffled me seeing those images...

What do you guys think of all this? This is DEFINATELY a current issue at least the US is going through.

(WARNING: Do NOT search Google for abortion and click images if you are faint of heart or slightest big squeamish...you have been warned.)

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Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion had some also...intriging history and debate behind abortion.

 

[Danoff]

Have you ever seen hamburger being made? Ever seen the cows slaughtered? Ever seen a doctor perform open-heart surgery? Know where hotdogs come from? Hell, normal healthy childbirth is gross.

There's lots of gross stuff out there - and it has no bearing on anything except that it's gross. Nobody is calling for open-heart surgery to be illegal because it's gross. This is a lame attempt to subject people to graphic images they're not used to being subjected to to try to get them to make a decision based on emotion.

 

[Delirious]

Well I hate saying this because it may turn into a debate...

Seeing an unborn baby being killed is different to me than all those you listed, danoff. (Good point by the way)

Does anyone see it different when it comes to an abortion than the things danoff listed?

 

[Danoff]

Well I hate saying this because it may turn into a debate...

Seeing an unborn baby being killed is different to me than all those you listed, danoff. (Good point by the way)

Does anyone see it different when it comes to an abortion than the things danoff listed?

...it all depends on whether you think it's a human life.

 

[DuckRacer]

Does anyone see it different when it comes to an abortion than the things danoff listed?

I do.

For the hamburgers and hot dogs and cow slaughtering part, it actually serves a purpose. It gives us food. Open-heart surgery is a medical procedure. It's pretty much necessary, like stomach-bypass surgery for the severely obese. It's all gross, but it's very beneficial.

Abortion is different. It's for someone who got pregnant, but they don't want the baby. They could put it up for adoption, or step up and raise the baby, but no, they decide to kill it. The only thing that I think would validate abortion is if you were raped, or something like that.

 

[Zrow]

I had to see those pictures driving down a major freeway in my area - people were holding up signs. There was one sign in the beginning that said "WARNING - GRAPHIC IMAGES AHEAD" (like we had time to say, "Uh-oh, I don't think I want to see that stuff!").

I don't think I would wany my four-year-old looking out the window to see that kind of thing, regardless of the point being made.

(Swift and Duke, this is Rt. 24 I'm talking about)

 

[Danoff]

I do.

For the hamburgers and hot dogs and cow slaughtering part, it actually serves a purpose. It gives us food. Open-heart surgery is a medical procedure. It's pretty much necessary, like stomach-bypass surgery for the severely obese. It's all gross, but it's very beneficial.

Abortion also serves a purpose and can be very beneficial. It's all about whether you think it's a human life. That's it.

 

[Carl.]

I'm sorry, but you won't make me believe that because a foetus has an humanoid form, it has a conscience with brain smaller than a grain of rice. The believers who are doing protests against abortions should perhaps have a word with their deity first, about how much of his "creations" end up being born with incurable dieseases, and why he doesn't lift a finger about that.

Incidentally, I've also never worried much about the billions of spermatozoids I've murdered so far.

 

[ledhed]

I'm not so much concerned on the opinions of abortion (most shouldn't have to guess what I believe about it)

I unknowingly went to google and searched for abortion, and with safesearch on, I did the image search...

...









Words could not describe what I saw...I immediately closed the browser.

Well also I'm kind of squeamish and don't like looking at violent pictures...

But that search was worse than any violent movie or video game I've ever seen heard or played (Remember, I became a Christian at the age of 18, I'm now 21...everything I had seen to that point is what I am referring to)

I don't really intend this to turn into a heated moral discussion on the rights of it (not that I would try to change your minds...probably wouldn't work)

But it just baffled me seeing those images...

What do you guys think of all this? This is DEFINATELY a current issue at least the US is going through.

(WARNING: Do NOT search Google for abortion and click images if you are faint of heart or slightest big squeamish...you have been warned.)

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Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion had some also...intriging history and debate behind abortion.

I watched TWICE as my baby son and daughter were cut fron the wonb of my wife...I saw all of her internal organs ...above the diaphram eexposed...like I also saw gutting a deer...only this was my WIFE and my child..I didnt see too much intesstine ..because of the plastic block and the cover...so WTF ?


I did not hurl...a live " birth " isnt much better...and at any rate whats it got do with anything ?


If " ugly " was a criteria no one would ever be born...keep the goofy crap to a minimum...you cant scare a person who has seen a birth ...live or otherwise with a picture of an " abortion : OF ANY TYPE ....only the non educated or squemish will go with the propaganda pictures.


Go kill a pig ...field dress it ,,,and roast it on a stick...then eat it..


Then go look at your little pictures .

 

[Delirious]

I guess I see it differently also if the baby is born alive than if the baby is "born" dead...

So whats it matter to you guys if the brain is small or big? What's the difference?

 

[Casio]

Because women get abortions because they don't want a child. It was an accident, or they got raped, or they got drunk and were stupid or whatever. Women don't get abortions for fun.

Take an example of a 16 year old who had to much to drink one night and finds out a week later she's pregers (Probably the most common abortion situation, but don't quote me on that), why should a child have to be brought up by someone who didn't want it in the first place, doesn't have the ability to raise a child. The child will have to live in a poor family (Not that it's a bad thing per se), because the mother won't be able to finish school, or go to work because she has a child.

It would be much fairer on you and a child if you waited until you were fully capable of handling the strains of parenthood. You've got a steady job, a father/partner who can support, you're much more mature etc.

 

[Carl.]

So whats it matter to you guys if the brain is small or big? What's the difference?

I don't believe in abstract concpets such as "souls" (and such beliefs ought to stay far away from any legislation scripture whatsoever, for obvious reasons). But we can all experience conscience, thanks to our brain. A bad hit on the coconut and poof!, there goes all of your memories, your personality, and... your conscience. But you can still live as a vegetable. Your brain is what defines who you are, what makes you different from a 6' tall vegetable or bacteria.

A foetus with a brain the size of a grain of rice is something on its way to become a human with a conscience, nothing more. So were the billions of billions [...] of billions of spermatozoids slaughtered every days around the world since the beginning of life.


And I'd really want to know why aren't there any protests from believer against their god for "creating" humans born with say, Cystic Fybrosis, or Spina Bifida as my aunt was. Why are some babies born only to horribly suffer for a few hours, days or weeks and die? Sounds much worse than an abortion to me.

 

[DuckRacer]

Because women get abortions because they don't want a child. It was an accident, or they got raped, or they got drunk and were stupid or whatever. Women don't get abortions for fun.

Take an example of a 16 year old who had to much to drink one night and finds out a week later she's pregers (Probably the most common abortion situation, but don't quote me on that), why should a child have to be brought up by someone who didn't want it in the first place, doesn't have the ability to raise a child. The child will have to live in a poor family (Not that it's a bad thing per se), because the mother won't be able to finish school, or go to work because she has a child.

It would be much fairer on you and a child if you waited until you were fully capable of handling the strains of parenthood. You've got a steady job, a father/partner who can support, you're much more mature etc.

Well, putting the baby up for adoption to be adopted by a family (no matter how poor or rich) is better than killing the baby/fetus. For people who don't believe in souls or God or whatever (like Carl., not that it's a bad thing), abortion isn't evil.

 

[Carl.]

Obviously, adoption is a much better solution, but that doesn't mean it has to be mandatory for all cases. I think the line has to be drawn somewhere though... I'd consider an abortion at 8 months - where the baby is completely formed and could survive an early birth - is wrong. Finding where to draw the line, having a proper and logical legislation for it is a tough call, one I don't consider myself qualified to make.

 

[dougiemeats]

I attended a Catholic grade school, junior high, and high school, and this was a big issue often discussed in our religion classes. They would try to brainwash every student (Catholic or not) to believe that abortion was wrong and there was never a situation that it would be acceptable.

Despite the efforts of my teachers, principal, and religious leaders, I am still undecided on the issue today. I lean more towards the belief that it is wrong, but this belief cannot apply to every situation. This is something that my schools could not understand nor accept.

The use of gruesome images to send the message is simply taking advantage of our sheltered lifestyle. For some of us, these images may be the worst things we've seen and based on our emotion, we may choose one side over the other. I disagree on the use of shocking images/videos/stories to send out a message. The only message that gruesome images send out is: "Abortion is wrong because it is an ugly procedure." It may be effective, but it takes away from the real message.

 

[dbartucci]

Just out of curiousity, what types of images of abortion were you expecting to find Delirious XVII?

 

[HondaRacer]

I attended a Catholic grade school, junior high, and high school, and this was a big issue often discussed in our religion classes. They would try to brainwash every student (Catholic or not) to believe that abortion was wrong and there was never a situation that it would be acceptable.

Despite the efforts of my teachers, principal, and religious leaders, I am still undecided on the issue today. I lean more towards the belief that it is wrong, but this belief cannot apply to every situation. This is something that my schools could not understand nor accept.

The use of gruesome images to send the message is simply taking advantage of our sheltered lifestyle. For some of us, these images may be the worst things we've seen and based on our emotion, we may choose one side over the other. I disagree on the use of shocking images/videos/stories to send out a message. The only message that gruesome images send out is: "Abortion is wrong because it is an ugly procedure." It may be effective, but it takes away from the real message.

Thread over. 👍

 

[backspace]

I unknowingly went to google and searched for abortion, and with safesearch on, I did the image search...

Wait, exactly what were you expecting to see when you searched for images of abortion?

edit: didn't realise dbartucci asked basically the same thing.

 

[Delirious]

Not just yet, HondaRacer...

When I searched for abortion, I was thinking of the political cartoons and illustration charts...

I was wrong.

But anyway, please continue...there are a lot more people around here on GTP with worthwhile comments.

 

[Sage]

1) Images shouldn’t matter, period. The fetus doesn’t know it’s having whatever done to it. If someone took a picture of me violently stomping on a chrysanthemum, would it be reasonable for someone who really likes chrysanthemums to declare that stomping on them should be illegal? Obviously, no. Same principle applies to abortion – the baby knows just as much as the flower, which is to say nothing at all.

2) Carl pretty much summed up my next point. Potential for conscious life != conscious life. Should we save the bajillions of gametes that die everyday? (Good luck with that.)

 

[Casio]

Obviously, adoption is a much better solution, but that doesn't mean it has to be mandatory for all cases. I think the line has to be drawn somewhere though... I'd consider an abortion at 8 months - where the baby is completely formed and could survive an early birth - is wrong. Finding where to draw the line, having a proper and logical legislation for it is a tough call, one I don't consider myself qualified to make.

I don't think you'd even be allowed an abortion at 8 months? But I don't think you can draw a line either. Who's to say a 20 week old child has any less right to live then a 21 week old?

In the US, only 1.4% of Abortions are after 20 weeks. The limit of viability (the gestational age at which a fetus/infant has a good chance of surviving outside its mother's womb without major impairment) is currently considered to be 23 weeks old. So perhaps that could be used? Since a fetus pre-23 weeks old can not survive with it's mother.

 

[Max_DC]

Well a lot has been said and all I want to add is, that exactly one person has to decide ( maybe 2 if you count the father in ) if she wants to abort her baby or not. The mother. Aborting a baby might lead to severe psychological problems for the mothers, depeding on the woman's personality... this varies between nothing and a life ruining depression. That is a problem, since you can't really predict the reaction and the psychological stability of the mother. The child itself doesn't feel pain, at least not for a long time... and after that - depending on your beliefs - it is either simply away from this world or in a better place.
It is natural for a human being that you don't like watching dead human children, but you should be able to watch this from a neutral position. Nobody should be forced to abort babies, but those who are against it also should not judge over those who made this hard decision. That is not fair imo.

 

[Time_Attack]

This has some rather disturbing photos.

http://www.mttu.com/abort-pics/

 

[Casio]

Oh look. A cow getting a stun bolt to the brain.

Do you still eat Beef?

Bloodied Chickens

Do you still eat chicken/Eggs?


Personally. I think it's much worse to keep a living being like a chicken, kept in a cage all day that it can't even move it. Then killing a fetus that can't survive for itself.

 

[Cosmic]

Oh look. A cow getting a stun bolt to the brain.

Do you still eat Beef?

Do you still eat chicken/Eggs?

Yes.´and yes.

 

[Famine]

Well also I'm kind of squeamish and don't like looking at violent pictures...

But that search was worse than any violent movie or video game I've ever seen heard or played (Remember, I became a Christian at the age of 18, I'm now 21...everything I had seen to that point is what I am referring to)

When was the last time you played an abortion-based computer game?

 

[FoolKiller]

Oh look. A cow getting a stun bolt to the brain.
Do you still eat Beef?

Bloodied Chickens
Do you still eat chicken/Eggs?

Great, now I'm hungry.

I would also like to point out that the abortion debate has been thoroughly covered in the abortion thread and further debate on the subject should probably be done in there. Lord knows I did my fair share of it.

 

[dbartucci]

This thread isn't really a debate on abortion, but rather using images you know people will find offensive or be squeamish from to assert your point-of-view. Using photos of fetuses (whole or in parts after they've been aborted) is one example of this.

 

[Jay]

but rather using images you know people will find offensive or be squeamish from to assert your point-of-view.

Thats how our Government (Australian) is trying to deter people from smoking.

 

[RallyF1]

this is a never ending issue in the world, but i'll tell you what. if the child is not wanted by either parent why force them on having the baby, is it worth i having the child getting born in an unwanted enviroment, as long as the abortion process is done before three months of the creation on the fetis, why not. until then the fetis is nothing more than group of cells.
or we can call for the goverment to inforce abstinence that way we elimintae abortion from our soceity all together, i'm sure the goverment would love that a lot. it's like they are not nosey enough..