About the hybrid systems in the LMP1 cars...

[CConspicuous]

I'm confused, are they non-existent? This had been bugging me for quite some time, I was looking forward to applying the 1000bhp instant-boost out of corners.

Surely it would be better if we had control of the hybrid deployment or we able to pre-allocate the usage like how they were made to in FIAWEC = teams are made to pre-program the hybrid allocation to activate automatically at wherever they choose via GPS positioning.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any of the whir/whistle under harvesting or deployment, PD should fix this because it's pretty silly to not have.

 

[pedrocor]

PD doesn't let us tune things like tire pressure and, in Sport Mode, doesn't even let us tune anything at all.
Do you think they would program something very complex just because of a handful of cars in the game?

 

[ProjectF]

PD doesn't let us tune things like tire pressure and, in Sport Mode, doesn't even let us tune anything at all.
Do you think they would program something very complex just because of a handful of cars in the game?

You can look at GT6 how to deal with the related things, and waiting for updates.

maybe someday we can push the NOS button , in GTSport.

 

[CConspicuous]

PD doesn't let us tune things like tire pressure and, in Sport Mode, doesn't even let us tune anything at all.
Do you think they would program something very complex just because of a handful of cars in the game?

Good point, but I can't imagine the manufacturers or WEC being happy about it.

 

[pedrocor]

You can look at GT6 how to deal with the related things, and waiting for updates.

maybe someday we can push the NOS button , in GTSport.

As CConspicuous said, in LMP1-H cars, the release of stored energy is pre-programmed, related to places on track. The drivers have different output settings as they workout the best to the fuel load and tire wear, etc.

 

[CConspicuous]

As CConspicuous said, in LMP1-H cars, the release of stored energy is pre-programmed, related to places on track. The drivers have different output settings as they workout the best to the fuel load and tire wear, etc.

This is the reason why it's pre-programmed, Mark Webber almost losing it coming out of Forest Essess in 2015:

 

[trustjab]

You can definitely notice the hybrid kick in on the Nissan GTR LM. Watch the acceleration from about 70kmh or 40mph to a little over 200kph or 125mph. It's like a rocket then it tails off.

 

[CConspicuous]

You can definitely notice the hybrid kick in on the Nissan GTR LM. Watch the acceleration from about 70kmh or 40mph to a little over 200kph or 125mph. It's like a rocket then it tails off.

I wouldn't know, I only ever saw it running on petrol, eating up it's brakes, living in garages 21-23 and, bottoming out it's front end in all chicanes while it's rear wheels hilariously bounced up into the air... I kid you not, it was doing this all week in 2015.

 

[trustjab]

I wouldn't know, I only ever saw it running on petrol, eating up it's brakes, living in garages 21-23 and, bottoming out it's front end in all chicanes while it's rear wheels hilariously bounced up into the air... I kid you not, it was doing this all week in 2015.

Cool. Unfortunately it's no longer going to race but in game I notice the hybrid aspect of this car in particular. Haven't tried the other lmp1's yet.

 

[CConspicuous]

Cool. Unfortunately it's no longer going to race but in game I notice the hybrid aspect of this car in particular. Haven't tried the other lmp1's yet.

The car was supposed to be RWD out of corners only and FWD down the straights only, the basic principle of straightline speed worked because it was hitting 205mph without a hybrid system, unfortunately, what screwed them was their hybrid supplier Torotrak completely failed to produce anything.

The project wasn't canned because of the poor performance at Le Mans; the performance proved that several of their key principles worked like straightline speed, through-flowing aero and quadruple stinting the rears (also all the issues they had were knock-on of having no hybrid).

It was ultimately canned because they arranged to use the Renault e.Dams Formula E motors (apparently capable of delivering vast amounts of power above the restrictions in Formula E) but wouldn't receive them in time to adapt and prepare them properly. I think the exact time they needed them was early-December and what Renault Sport told them was they would not be getting them till February.

 

[trustjab]

The car was supposed to be RWD out of corners only and FWD down the straights only, the basic principle of straightline speed worked because it was hitting 205mph without a hybrid system, unfortunately, what screwed them was their hybrid supplier Torotrak completely failed to produce anything.

The project wasn't canned because of the poor performance at Le Mans; the performance proved that several of their key principles worked like straightline speed, through-flowing aero and quadruple stinting the rears (also all the issues they had were knock-on of having no hybrid). It was ultimately canned because they arranged to use the Renault e.Dams Formula E motors but wouldn't receive them in time to adapt and prepare them properly.

I know. It was shut down too soon imo. They were testing wider rear tires before it was called off as well. What I remember is Renault said it was going to drop a lot of other racing to concentrate on building up it's F1 team. Renault is like the father in the partnership with Nissan, so the lmp1 project probably fell by the wayside because of this. What I like about the car is it's nearly impossible to spin thanks to the fwd. But the understeer is pretty severe unless you take turns with a wide arc and use trick setups. But man the front end grip is insane, it's like a formula car with the mid-high speed turn in.

 

[CConspicuous]

I know. It was shut down too soon imo. They were testing wider rear tires before it was called off as well. What I remember is Renault said it was going to drop a lot of other racing to concentrate on building up it's F1 team. Renault is like the father in the partnership with Nissan, so the lmp1 project probably fell by the wayside because of this. What I like about the car is it's nearly impossible to spin thanks to the fwd. But the understeer is pretty severe unless you take turns with a wide arc and use trick setups. But man the front end grip is insane, it's like a formula car with the mid-high speed turn in.

What I was told is that it was nothing to do with Renault focusing back on F1, remember, they've continued to invest in Formula E. It was purely the fact that they were not getting the electric motors on time and decided they couldn't go through having to do two straight campaigns in an ill-prepared manner.

 

[trustjab]

What I was told is that it was nothing to do with Renault focusing back on F1, remember, they've continued to invest in Formula E. It was purely the fact that they were not getting the electric motors on time and decided they couldn't go through having to do two straight campaigns in an ill-prepared manner.

That was the PR reason. Of course that's what you are going to be told. But it's still a fact that Renault canned multiple race related projects just because it was ramping up it's return as a factory in F1. It's a no-brainer they stayed in F-E because one, it's super cheap; two, they won titles; three, it's good PR.

 

[RACECAR]

I'm confused, are they non-existent? This had been bugging me for quite some time, I was looking forward to applying the 1000bhp instant-boost out of corners.

Surely it would be better if we had control of the hybrid deployment or we able to pre-allocate the usage like how they were made to in FIAWEC = teams are made to pre-program the hybrid allocation to activate automatically at wherever they choose via GPS positioning.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any of the whir/whistle under harvesting or deployment, PD should fix this because it's pretty silly to not have.

The Hybrid systems do exist, its just much more noticeable in both feel and the way the way the gears go up. Do a GR.1 race and its immediately apparent against a car without a system. If you want something more visible, you'll have to use the not-so-reliable cockpit view to see the battery indicator.

 

[Ryan Dungey]

There is only one LMP1 car with the ****/whistle noise right now and it's the 2016 Audi it's quiet but it's there. You can only hear when harvesting energy. I put a lap video up in the video thread you can watch that if you want to hear it. Make sure you have volume up to make sure you hear it.

 

[CConspicuous]

There is only one LMP1 car with the ****/whistle noise right now and it's the 2016 Audi it's quiet but it's there. You can only hear when harvesting energy. I put a lap video up in the video thread you can watch that if you want to hear it. Make sure you have volume up to make sure you hear it.

That's not the hybrid whistle, it's a diesel sound. It should sound like this:

 

[pedrocor]

That was the PR reason. Of course that's what you are going to be told. But it's still a fact that Renault canned multiple race related projects just because it was ramping up it's return as a factory in F1. It's a no-brainer they stayed in F-E because one, it's super cheap; two, they won titles; three, it's good PR.

It's not pretty cheap. Renault (as matter of fact Nissan from next season on) is spending almost as much as the Nissan LMP1 program every season.

 

[pedrocor]

Already tried the Toyota TS050 and the Porsche 919 and the hybrid systems are pretty noticeable.
Specially in the Porsche, is crazy, specially as is all deployed on front wheels.
Of course it depends the track you tried it. In Tokyo Expressway it wouldn't help you much on the mega straight as you charge it only on the braking to last corner and that doesn't last long.
Bring it to one of the ovals and the effect is almost none, only one small braking point in Blue Moon, no more places to charge it.

But try on in Dragon Trail and just enjoy it getting out the SS on the beginning of the lap or one of the hairpins...

 

[Ryan Dungey]

That's not the hybrid whistle, it's a diesel sound. It should sound like this:

I know what it sounds like in real life it's just badly implemented in sport and doesn't sound like it should.

 

[Huzar]

Don't know about L1s but i found the LAferrari to be quite annoying, guessing its the hybrid system.