Active aero

[mr_pepps]

Driving a Reventon around Silverstone last night I noticed the active aero was, well, inactive.
The side/top vents are supposed to open at 100mph and close again over 175mph.
I thought it had an active spoiler too?

Anyone else noticed inactive aero on some models?
Or can someone correct me about the Reventon?

 

[Staquix]

On NFS Shift 2 I had noticed that the active spoiler on the SLS wouldn't engage if the traction control was off. Although that's not the case with the SLS on GT6 you may try using TC 1 and see if that will do it. I would test this but I don't have a Reventon.

 

[PawnBoy]

It wouldn't surprise me if there were plenty of active aero that didn't behave like their real life counterparts. I'm not sure I'd expect PD to copy the control software for every car with active aero. The same could be said for proprietary traction and stability control systems, and fancy suspension too.

 

[eSZee]

The reventon has active air intakes only I believe. If they don't work on the reventon, does it mean they don;t work on the murcielago either?

 

[raytard]

It wouldn't surprise me if there were plenty of active aero that didn't behave like their real life counterparts. I'm not sure I'd expect PD to copy the control software for every car with active aero. The same could be said for proprietary traction and stability control systems, and fancy suspension too.

Surprisingly, they model a lot of it. A lot of cars have active aero (Veyron, MP4-12C come to mind), and if they missed something like the Reventon, I wouldn't be surprised to see that fixed in an update. The ones that do work-the software is accurate. They appear to function correctly and consistent with the real life versions.

They've also re-created some proprietary systems, very accurately. AYC in Mitsu Evo's (own settings in tuning, can be overridden by replacing diffs) and VTEC on Hondas (just look at the power/torque curves, you can see where it kicks in. While driving, you can hear and notice it pretty easily.) Obviously, some things like an M3's shifting options and suspension settings are not replicated, but you can always manually tune those in.

The weird sweeping Aston Martin dials work correctly, Navigation works on some cars. Heck, some even have the dashboard lights dim when you turn on the lights!

 

[swg]

Driving a Reventon around Silverstone last night I noticed the active aero was, well, inactive.
The side/top vents are supposed to open at 100mph and close again over 175mph.
I thought it had an active spoiler too?

Anyone else noticed inactive aero on some models?
Or can someone correct me about the Reventon?

I believe the reventon aero does function, at least the spoiler. In fact I have a photo I shot at willow springs where it is up. Oddly enough its up even with one of the custom spoilers installed on top of it, i thought adding custom spoilers ussualyy disabled the active ones. Perhaps it only raises during braking? Will check it later.

 

[RacingManiac]

I thought the spoiler on the Veyron is always open until you engage that top speed mode. Not just pop open like it does now in the game?

 

[mr_pepps]

Oh? Strange. I ran the Reventon on Spesh Stage X with a chase camera view and the rear spoiler didn't flinch all the way up to 239mph.
I didn't try heavy braking. Shall do.

Interesting, I didn't have TCS on. Will try with it engaged.

Yeah

It wouldn't surprise me if there were plenty of active aero that didn't behave like their real life counterparts. I'm not sure I'd expect PD to copy the control software for every car with active aero. The same could be said for proprietary traction and stability control systems, and fancy suspension too.

I hear you. But they were pretty good on GT5 - I assumed they'd be more precise with GT6.

The reventon has active air intakes only I believe. If they don't work on the reventon, does it mean they don;t work on the murcielago either?

They didn't in GT5. Haven't had a go in a Murch in GT6 yet. Must check it out.

 

[mr_pepps]

No the Veyron spoiler starts out tucked away and deploys at speed. If you give it the full beans (end straight on The Ring or on Spesh Stage X) it drops a little.
There's no option in GT to keep the spoiler retracted for max speed, unlike in the real world.

I thought the spoiler on the Veyron is always open until you engage that top speed mode. Not just pop open like it does now in the game?

 

[V4.SKUNK]

The only car in-game with active aero is the Pagani Huarya.

 

[swg]

The only car in-game with active aero is the Pagani Huarya.

Very not true.

 

[Dragonbeard]

The only car in-game with active aero is the Pagani Huarya.

Merc VGT? the new Toyota FT-1?

 

[pzkpfw]

The only car in-game with active aero is the Pagani Huarya.

What are you talking about? Besides what Dragonbeard mentioned, there's also the Aventador, R8, Caddy Cien... and more!

 

[V4.SKUNK]

What are you talking about? Besides what Dragonbeard mentioned, there's also the Aventador, R8, Caddy Cien... and more!

These cars do not have true active aero. The Pagani does though with aero on the front and rear of the car which activates while cornering and braking. The cars you mention simply deploy a spoiler at high speed.

 

[pzkpfw]

I understand what you're saying, but "deploying a spoiler at high speed" is active aerodynamics in my book. Besides, some use these spoilers for braking as well.

 

[bikerbob951]

These cars do not have true active aero. The Pagani does though with aero on the front and rear of the car which activates while cornering and braking. The cars you mention simply deploy a spoiler at high speed.

Wrong. Isuzu 4200R '89 (at least it did in GT5)

 

[mu22stang]

These cars do not have true active aero. The Pagani does though with aero on the front and rear of the car which activates while cornering and braking. The cars you mention simply deploy a spoiler at high speed.

An excellent example of current GTP argue just to argue nonsense.

Let's think of it in motorsport terms, which seems appropriate. If you entered in any current championship that banned active aerodynamics with a spoiler that deployed after you accelerated past a certain speed and/or deployed while accelerating to a stop, would this device be banned or not?

 

[Vegard]

...true active aero.

Active aero - moving aero parts...
Also:

 

[bikerbob951]

^^^ Isuzu 4200R '89. Thought so

 

[SCER]

^^^ Isuzu 4200R '89. Thought so

Pretty sure that's the Mitsubishi HSR-II concept.

 

[bikerbob951]

Pretty sure that's the Mitsubishi HSR-II concept.

Well, crap... all those concepts look the same to me. I stand corrected.

 

[mr_pepps]

I checked out the Reventon spoiler/air ducts thing last night. No moving parts at all.

Another GTP user suggested trying with TC on, which I did but without success.
Ahhh well.
The Aventador still has sexy movy bits

I believe the reventon aero does function, at least the spoiler. In fact I have a photo I shot at willow springs where it is up. Oddly enough its up even with one of the custom spoilers installed on top of it, i thought adding custom spoilers ussualyy disabled the active ones. Perhaps it only raises during braking? Will check it later.

 

[swg]

I checked out the Reventon spoiler/air ducts thing last night. No moving parts at all.

Another GTP user suggested trying with TC on, which I did but without success.
Ahhh well.
The Aventador still has sexy movy bits

My error, just looked back at that screen shot I had, its an aventador , not the reventon.

 

[coolboy48]

Driving a Reventon around Silverstone last night I noticed the active aero was, well, inactive...

Now I'm not totally sure either but regarding the side vents; a post on one of the Lamborghini owner forums indicates that the vents on the mechanically similar (but 10 PS less) LP640 only open when the engine is above a certain temperature. There doesn't seem to be definite mention about speed sensitivity. Dyno videos seem to agree so I figure it's the same with the Reventon. The rear spoiler also doesn't work unfortunately.

Among the other premiums:

The speed sensitive rear spoiler on the Gallardo doesn't work.

The Aventador's rear spoiler doesn't retract to a lower position at high speeds like it should and could have an extra non-existent angle compared to the real deal; there should be 2 possible raised spoiler angles. Some sites also claim that its side vents are speed sensitive unlike the older Murcielago/Reventon. That's where I believe the 100/175 mph figure originated from.

The downforce mode (slight spoiler tilt) of the MP4-12C isn't recreated and the 458's front winglets don't appear to deform/lower at high speeds.

Funnily enough since someone mentioned it, the vents on the Reventon and Murcielago are correctly temperature sensitive in Shift 2, though with a mis-set temp value, and (correctly in an arcade-like way) damage sensitive in Driver:SF with the latter. Though the rear spoilers in both games don't work.

 

[mr_pepps]

Thanks - good comments. Shame about these cases. Hope they rectify these little things; I love watching the aero going through different phases.

Now I'm not totally sure either but regarding the side vents; a post on one of the Lamborghini owner forums indicates that the vents on the mechanically similar (but 10 PS less) LP640 only open when the engine is above a certain temperature. There doesn't seem to be definite mention about speed sensitivity. Dyno videos seem to agree so I figure it's the same with the Reventon. The rear spoiler also doesn't work unfortunately.

Among the other premiums:

The speed sensitive rear spoiler on the Gallardo doesn't work.

The Aventador's rear spoiler doesn't retract to a lower position at high speeds like it should and could have an extra non-existent angle compared to the real deal; there should be 2 possible raised spoiler angles. Some sites also claim that its side vents are speed sensitive unlike the older Murcielago/Reventon. That's where I believe the 100/175 mph figure originated from.

The downforce mode (slight spoiler tilt) of the MP4-12C isn't recreated and the 458's front winglets don't appear to deform/lower at high speeds.

Funnily enough since someone mentioned it, the vents on the Reventon and Murcielago are correctly temperature sensitive in Shift 2, though with a mis-set temp value, and (correctly in an arcade-like way) damage sensitive in Driver:SF with the latter. Though the rear spoilers in both games don't work.