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Age Of Consent - 13?
- Thread starter Liquid
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"She said that "touching a 17-year-old's breast, kissing a 13-year-old, or putting one's hand up a 16-year-old's skirt" are not crimes comparable to gang rapes and murders and "anyone suggesting otherwise has lost touch with reality".
Is she retarded? If someone touched my niece they will be missing a hand.
Is she retarded? If someone touched my niece they will be missing a hand.
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Somehow, I can't see the parents of 13 year old children being overly keen on this idea. I suspect many of them find it difficult enough when their child is three years older. Some are probably a bit iffy well into their son or daughter's 20s...
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Sorry for pointless reply, i don't know why i wrote that. Anyway i really hope parents keep a eye on there children under 13, because as Admin on couple of site for other things, 12 and under get butt hurt easily and they complain and spam the forum, Eventually they get banned but they keep making new accounts. Like a 11 year old with a bank account you got to be serious.
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But seriously, it's not going to change though I expect.
Age of consent always seemed trivial to me, be a few months over the age of concent and you're mature enough to make the desicion to be involved in a sexual realationship, be a few months under and you're a victim and you were abused and manipulated into it.
Of corse children need to be protected but the teen years is big gray area surely, I know when I was as young as 13 (well probably closer to 14) I was sexual aware and felt mature enough to make decisions as to who I would involve myself with. If I had been involved in a realationship with an older woman when I was 13/14/15 I feel I would have made the desicion myself to be involved in it, and I wouldn't have been manipulated into it.
But I guess the age of consent laws are mostly to protect younger girls as it's certainly viewed as morally worse for a older man to be in a sexual realationship with a young girl than it is for an older woman to be involved sexualy with a younger boy.
I also find it strange that when teens are involved in something realating to voilence most people want to treat them as adults. But when it's sexual most people want to treat them as inocent victims.
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No, she's right. Those three things aren't crimes at all if consent is obtained (for the first and last). But if they're all forced, they certainly are crimes comparable to any other crime of the violation of the right to self.
I don't think the guy who framed Richard Kimble would be into that sort of thing.
I'm iffy about "the age of consent". The age of consent should be on an individual basis - the individual should know the risks, the benefits, the implications and the feelings before entering into that kind of relationship. For some, 13 is about right. For some, 16 is about right. For some, even adulthood is too early - but they're adults, so they get to make their own choices.
The problem is drawing the line where people who have the intelligence to choose have the right to choose without making them criminals based on an arbitrary line and where children aren't taken advantage of. It's compounded by the fact that, other than their own relatives and teachers, the people most likely to take advantage of children are other children.
But what rights and responsibilities we give to children will always be an issue, because some people's children will muck it up while others are held back - nicely teaching them the mindset that states will always restrict their freedoms when there's people that misuse that freedom...
Should a thirteen year old be allowed to have sex if they are intelligent and have a full grasp of the consequences? Should a sixteen year old be allowed to have sex if they are idiotic and have no grasp of the consequences - as is presently legal?
Oh and it's already 13 in Spain - and 14-15 in the majority of European states - so there's a bunch of Spanish people looking at this story wondering what the fuss is about.
arora
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Isn't the story about protecting adults in power who acted inappropriately? Anyway...
If we can't figure it out the states will do it for us and no one will be happy lol. Responsible and reasonable parents should be allowed to speak for their children until they come of age(ideally).
I think the age difference will always be an issue when it comes to consent.
If we can't figure it out the states will do it for us and no one will be happy lol. Responsible and reasonable parents should be allowed to speak for their children until they come of age(ideally).
I think the age difference will always be an issue when it comes to consent.
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- BasedAckbar
My grandma was 13 when she got married, but that was in 1930s India. I think it's 18 now but 15-16 if you're married.
Who the Hell wants to get married when you're 15-16? My grandma I understand, the times were different, but today?
Who the Hell wants to get married when you're 15-16? My grandma I understand, the times were different, but today?
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- Johnnypenso
So your position that an 18 year old kissing a consenting 13 year old is comparable to gang rapes and murders? That's ridiculous. In many jurisdictions that 18 year old can become a criminal with or without the consent of a 13 year old. Most people, including Canadians, don't know that our own age of consent was 14 until just a few years ago and we all got along just fine. It's now 16 with exemptions for 14 and 15 year olds with each other and some other stuff about age differences.
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I lost my virginity to a 13 yearold when I was 14. Neither of us were dumb or ignorant of reality and what was going on. Because of the 'stuff' I'm into, I've had a rather large range of women that I've been with age-wise. I have the hardest time connecting emotionally with the 18-20 year olds. Some are close to being there. Others could easily pass for 12 if they weren't in the body they were wearing.
For me, it's wondering how someone my age would ever be in a position to connect with someone so much younger. Not necessarily WHY it would be attractive, there are plenty of adolescent girls who are beautiful, but simply being in a position where it could happen at all (and not be a one night thing.)
For me, it's wondering how someone my age would ever be in a position to connect with someone so much younger. Not necessarily WHY it would be attractive, there are plenty of adolescent girls who are beautiful, but simply being in a position where it could happen at all (and not be a one night thing.)
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I'm nearing the current legal age of consent and I've never really wanted to go at it. I do think 13 is too young, however most 13 year olds these days have already done it anyway. I was reading the paper on the bus the other day and it said that 10 year olds were having sex regularly. 10 year olds. I was innocently playing Club Penguin at 10, not sleeping with Billy from the playground.
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Indeed. The less said about that particular nation's perceived sexual proclivities the better.Not so prevalent here in Japan.
In the meantime, I encourage you to look up a condition called "precocious puberty". There's a very famous case of an individual called Lina Medina who had "grass on the pitch" aged two - and an allegedly rapey uncle decided to play ball, resulting in her giving birth to her son aged five.
Elder Minifam has just turned 12. We've been very open with her about sex and a variety of sexual topics throughout her childhood - very few questions were met with an "ask me when you're older" - and she's a generally sensible child. Thanks to having a younger sister 18 months ago, she's quite familiar with one of the consequences of sex and how to avoid that one, and we've had several chats about syphilis, gonorrhoea and HIV. She's also been told all the good things - sex is, after all, a lot of fun and a recreational activity which can be enjoyed in safety - as we've told her the good about smoking and a variety of drugs to go with the bad.
She's pretty much fully prepared - aged 12 - should she decide to enter into that kind of relationship, though we'd discourage her and advise her against it, when she's ready she's ready. Probably as a result, she has no inclination towards it whatsoever - or smoking, or drugs. She will make her choice when she sees fit and she knows we will do our best to keep her on what we think is the right course but help her stay safe on the course we wouldn't choose for her. I can't think of many kids who'd approach their parents to ask for condoms and [sherbert], but she would...
Her peers, meanwhile, are scheduling a porking in the bogs of the hall they have their twelfth birthday party at. And inviting people to watch. No, not joking.
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I don't really have an answer to this. Obviously if I was a parent I wouldn't want my child taking part in sex that young, however at that age myself that was all I wanted to do and was angry I couldn't do it legally. So I can see both sides. I was smart enough to wait until I could legally, mostly in fear of getting caught etc. I don't really have an opinion. Certainly at that age I wished that would have been the age of consent and honestly could have commited to a real relationship, emotional strings included but it wasn't deemed right and therefore I didn't go that far in my relationships.
That said I could maybe see it lowered to 16, because it's already that in some states and I think it's more fair, and at that point people get tired of waitning and it's alread ya very common age to begin engaging in that activity. I was ready at a very young age personally, puberty me took off very fast and I developed quickly and midway through my teens it began to slow considerably, to a snails pace.
Overall I'm not to sure.
That said I could maybe see it lowered to 16, because it's already that in some states and I think it's more fair, and at that point people get tired of waitning and it's alread ya very common age to begin engaging in that activity. I was ready at a very young age personally, puberty me took off very fast and I developed quickly and midway through my teens it began to slow considerably, to a snails pace.
Overall I'm not to sure.
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Well with all the hormones the meat industry pumps into our foods, children are maturing at a faster rate than ever before. Especially girls.
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You're far too lenient.
Try putting your hand up my 16yo daughters skirt, or doing anything even slightly indecent to any of my kids - and you'll be missing a-lot more than a hand.
So you're 19 with a 16 year old daughter ? I don't think you're in much of a position to be doing that.
Also why do you keep changing the colour of that post ?
