Annoyed after 30 min. of playing PC2

[DeuxMilles]

Hi,

I received my PS4-Pack from the postman today. Inserted the disk in my Playstation, downloaded 12GB patch and started new career with the Cayman-Cup.

Opponents 80%, new "aggressive" to 50. No way until I found out, that I am on slick hard. So back to menu, slick soft and it goes better. But still a need to tune the car.

I DON'T WANT TO TUNE, I JUST WANT TO RACE.

From 80% on, the AI set up their cars for the specific track.

Isn't there a mode throughout the game where there is no need for any tuning? Through all classes?

Please help me out,
D.

 

[Dicra]

Who forces you to tune? You can also go against "tuned" AI cars with your default setup?

 

[zzz_pt]

Can't you make a slight change in the set up and race against the >80% AI?

 

[bleeder]

Not really an answer here, but I can't wait to have the AI setting their cars up properly for certain tracks. Low downforce wasn't a thing for them in pCARS1, should make racing them at Le Mans more challenging at least.

 

[bremics]

Lower the difficulty then...

 

[PzR Slim]

Two options, learn to tune or get better at the game.

 

[ozwheels]

Hi,

I received my PS4-Pack from the postman today. Inserted the disk in my Playstation, downloaded 12GB patch and started new career with the Cayman-Cup.

Opponents 80%, new "aggressive" to 50. No way until I found out, that I am on slick hard. So back to menu, slick soft and it goes better. But still a need to tune the car.

I DON'T WANT TO TUNE, I JUST WANT TO RACE.

From 80% on, the AI set up their cars for the specific track.

Isn't there a mode throughout the game where there is no need for any tuning? Through all classes?

Please help me out,
D.

Tuning is always going to be a fundamental part of a motor sports simulator. There is the race engineer feature you can try if you don't want to learn how to setup cars.

 

[imported_rik19]

12GB patch? no way, i wanted to play the game tomorrow, that will be forever downloading..

 

[crowhop]

Lower the difficulty then...

This is the answer, obviously.

There are people out there who want competitive races and require the AI to be maxed out in order to get them.
Complaining that 80% is "too fast" for you is certainly not the fault of the game.

 

[redi]

Tuning usually doesn't make you much faster, but practicing does.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Complaining that 80% is "too fast" for you is certainly not the fault of the game.

I'm quite rusty as I haven't raced for quite a while, so I think I'll start at 60% or so. There's no shame in starting low until you've put some hours in and learned what works and what doesn't for your favorite car/track combo's.

 

[crowhop]

I'm quite rusty as I haven't raced for quite a while, so I think I'll start at 60% or so. There's no shame in starting low until you've put some hours in and learned what works and what doesn't for your favorite car/track combo's.

My hope is the game has a LOT of headroom for the AI Strength.

The first time I race a car in Career Mode I will be one speed, but by the end of that Season, I should be a fair bit quicker as I would have possibly up to 100 hours more experience with that car. If you can run the AI at the top of scale right out of the box, there's a problem. I'd love to see it where I had to fight the AI tooth and nail at even 40% quality for my first race in a car.

 

[FuriousDemon]

I would recommend waiting a month or two to start a proper Career mode. Ian mentioned that he is putting a team on adjusting the AI across different weather conditions and vehicles over the next three month to balance them as best as possible, so if you really want that smooth and consistent experience, probably waiting is a good option. I plan to wait for a few patches for sure before really getting into it. Will be doing offline events, quick races and some online meanwhile.

 

[FLX1981]

Not sure why this needed a new thread and couldnt just be asked in the genereal discussion thread, especially with such an agressive title.

But anyway, what you could do also is set up an online race with fixed default setups.

 

[MABlosfeld]

Hi,

I received my PS4-Pack from the postman today. Inserted the disk in my Playstation, downloaded 12GB patch and started new career with the Cayman-Cup.

Opponents 80%, new "aggressive" to 50. No way until I found out, that I am on slick hard. So back to menu, slick soft and it goes better. But still a need to tune the car.

I DON'T WANT TO TUNE, I JUST WANT TO RACE.

From 80% on, the AI set up their cars for the specific track.

Isn't there a mode throughout the game where there is no need for any tuning? Through all classes?

Please help me out,
D.

some racing games had the option to adjust AI strength automatically according to your driving skills, maybe this is the best option for you who do not have the patience and just want to run.

EDID: adaptive AI force
http://www.racedepartment.com/threa...le-to-adapt-in-test-qualifying-session.96955/

 

[RacerDude08]

12GB patch? no way, i wanted to play the game tomorrow, that will be forever downloading..

You can play while the patch is downloading..

 

[imported_rik19]

I think i`ll try it without the patch first, when i get the disc, i`ll turn the internet off..

 

[crowhop]

I would recommend waiting a month or two to start a proper Career mode. Ian mentioned that he is putting a team on adjusting the AI across different weather conditions and vehicles over the next three month to balance them as best as possible, so if you really want that smooth and consistent experience, probably waiting is a good option. I plan to wait for a few patches for sure before really getting into it. Will be doing offline events, quick races and some online meanwhile.

Why wait? Run one now and then run another when an update is released. There's no limit.

 

[RomKnight]

Slicks softs may not even be a solution. You'll find that temperature matters soon enough Unless you do 5 lap races only.

BTW, what car class were you running @DeuxMilles
Some people just go straight for higher classes while not knowing a game just because "dream car must have" or something.

I do recommend starting on lower classes and progress. It's a whole experience and a new one at that. pC2 is way ahead with STM and LT3.0 and weather (don't dismiss the wind ) so, it can and it will feel exactly like home for some.

It's a learning curve. I can't buy a car and go racing then switch to another one in a different discipline and think I know it all. Or just because I've done a track day before doesn't mean that I really know the track the second time I get there not that the conditions are the same.

Take you time. It's worth it, I know

 

[DeuxMilles]

Hi,

thanks to all for your honest feedback. Meanwhile I finished first two races w/ Cayman Cup. Both first place at 75% opponent, no tune at all. Maybe I just wait until you nice guys share a few setups

PC1 feels easier, last career races were GT3 with the Aston V12 at 100% opponents, also no tune at all. Not easy, but possible to win quali and race with a bit of practice.

But: on PC1 I found GT4 much more difficult than GT3. Let's wait and see....

cu on track,
D.

Slicks softs may not even be a solution. You'll find that temperature matters soon enough Unless you do 5 lap races only.

Cayman Cup Euro, first race is Red Bull Ring short. Race is 11 laps iirc, no problem for the soft slicks.

Default on the car are hard slicks, which offer on spin per lap. Undriveable for me.

D.

 

[RomKnight]

I usually drive on hards.

Can't really comment on career though. Offline/SP modes are not for me I race against the clock and people (Even in asynchronously )

Yes, softs are ok for sprint races, still, i'm sure there are times that because overheating one might be better off on hards. One thing is wear, another is handling outside the right temps.

I'm not doubting they worked for that race. Just hinting they might not end up being the best choice everytime

 

[05XR8]

Again, this isn't an arcade racer. It's a sim. Hopping in and just driving, isn't the purpose of the game. This game is to give the real experience of driving. Besides, there are engineers to help you with tuning. Enjoy.

 

[jake2013guy]

What you could do is ask the engineer what you feel in the car. That's incredibly useful.

 

[Harry Freq]

I usually drive on hards.

Can't really comment on career though. Offline/SP modes are not for me I race against the clock and people (Even in asynchronously )

Yes, softs are ok for sprint races, still, i'm sure there are times that because overheating one might be better off on hards. One thing is wear, another is handling outside the right temps.

I'm not doubting they worked for that race. Just hinting they might not end up being the best choice everytime

Hard tyres are easier to control than softs when not at the optimum temperature?

 

[RomKnight]

at optimum etmp they behave as they should but currently the tyres soft hard have more to do with the track temperature they perform better.

A softer compound will stick better but my point was, for how long? slick tyres are designed to operate withing a narrow(er) range than our normal road tyres. So if you take a soft tyre to a very hot track you'll soon find yourself having to hold back because when overheatet, a.e., you just won't get any advantage. Quite the opposite so you'd be better off using hards.

Again, pC2 is dynamic and as IRL, it trlly is about getting the most out of the car/tyres in any given situation. Just look for what happened ar Nords 24h this year

Compromise. If the softs are enough good but I'd say, get used to other compounds. you'll need them

 

[DeuxMilles]

Hi,

What you could do is ask the engineer what you feel in the car. That's incredibly useful.

thanks, I will give this a try.

D.