Are you a Gammer. .....or a Consumer.

[HoTDoG_GB]

I totally dished GT Sport when it first came out..... I hated it, well it was not what I wanted it to be... I've just spent £300 on a steering rig and wanted to be able to have a decent racing game to use it with.

With all the problems with the game I've coming really frustrated with it but no more so then with PD n Sony....... I remember when games were made by gamers for gamers.. but now things have changed.

Games have now become products and gamers have now become consumers.......... I don't think is problems with the game itself but the game has now become a product.

I'm not quite sure where I'm going with this but I come from the days where I grew up it was the 80s and computer gaming was it first about computing and then it became about gaming but now it seems to be more about consuming.

I was there for the 1st and I'm here for the last it seems to be gaming is dying out it's all about product and how much you can push a product per consumer........ I'm not sure I'm happy being Drip Fed a game I used to enjoy.

I paid £200 for a games console to be able to play games on but now it seems more and more I can only play it when the servers say I can ie online saving. It's not that I dislike the game I just dislike the way gaming is being taken away from me and then Drip Fed back to me for a cost.... I don't know I could just be getting old I'm one of the last few used to play games from the very start the Amstrad the Commodore the Sinclair the Omega.

Maybe it's time for old-school to move over for new school..... I do apologise for being in the wrong section but it seems the older I get the core principle of me gaming it's been taken away from me I'm being turned into a product.

I'm 48...49 next year....maybe I'm just getting to old or just to old school for modem gaming. ...... I'm seeing tech I use to see in films when I was younger becoming reality. And fun now being charged for.

 

[FerrellJ]

Considering that PD have yet to announce any explicit plans to charge for DLC, this is probably a bit presumptuous. They've only told us that they're giving us a bunch of free cars (and possibly tracks) over the next several months.

I'm sure they will eventually start charging for additional content but I'd like to see what happens until then.

 

[andrewhake]

I'm a GAMMER

 

[Donnced]

I totally dished GT Sport when it first came out..... I hated it, well it was not what I wanted it to be... I've just spent £300 on a steering rig and wanted to be able to have a decent racing game to use it with.

With all the problems with the game I've coming really frustrated with it but no more so then with PD n Sony....... I remember when games were made by gamers for gamers.. but now things have changed.

Games have now become products and gamers have now become consumers.......... I don't think is problems with the game itself but the game has now become a product.

I'm not quite sure where I'm going with this but I come from the days where I grew up it was the 80s and computer gaming was it first about computing and then it became about gaming but now it seems to be more about consuming.

I was there for the 1st and I'm here for the last it seems to be gaming is dying out it's all about product and how much you can push a product per consumer........ I'm not sure I'm happy being Drip Fed a game I used to enjoy.

I paid £200 for a games console to be able to play games on but now it seems more and more I can only play it when the servers say I can ie online saving. It's not that I dislike the game I just dislike the way gaming is being taken away from me and then Drip Fed back to me for a cost.... I don't know I could just be getting old I'm one of the last few used to play games from the very start the Amstrad the Commodore the Sinclair the Omega.

Maybe it's time for old-school to move over for new school..... I do apologise for being in the wrong section but it seems the older I get the core principle of me gaming it's been taken away from me I'm being turned into a product.

I'm 48...49 next year....maybe I'm just getting to old or just to old school for modem gaming. ...... I'm seeing tech I use to see in films when I was younger becoming reality. And fun now being charged for.

Go for assetto corsa or project C.A.R.S 2 and you will find those more than decent sims for your rig.

Don't get me wrong, GT Sport is fun,but simple... Easy, simple physics, very "global player" focused and more focused to controller players than wheel players.

Assetto Corsa is the best nowadays in driving physics and the sim that offers the best FFB on consoles right now.
Focused to wheel players and a challenging AI awaits you together with laserscaned tracks.

Project C.A.R.S 2 is actually a level between GT and assetto, approaching more assetto side...
Now for now, it's for me the most complete sim on the console market.. Great car and track numbers, good and better FFB than GT and quite better physics... The AI is also on a good challenge point and the game offers day-to-day cycle and a huge dynamic climate system.

I think that those two last sims will fit you more as you called yourself an "old-school gamer".

 

[diptob79]

Agree with you that its not the game. Its the industry. I think PD is relatively more generous than others in terms of "pushing more products" . Remember in GT6 there was a plan for microtransaction and somehow there is a loophole that anyone can make a lot of ingame credit. Also afaik all additional cars and tracks are free DLCs.

Higher expectations has made the game what it is now.. better graphics, sounds, steering wheel, security measures etc. It came naturally though..

 

[MaxJP]

I totally agree with you and I hate the fact that it's coming to that. I'm only 28 but started with ps1 and it' h changed over the recent few years.

 

[MikeTheHockeyFan]

Drink responsibly during the holidays, GT Planet.

Take care of yourselves, and each other.

 

[racingchamp30]

I am both a consumer who buys the games and a gamer who loves to play the games.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Get PSVR, relive the 90's. Experimental games everywhere.

Big budget games are all standardized nowadays. I come from a time as well when games seemed impossible to grasp without a manual yet everything was a new and unique experience. VR delivers that feeling again. GT just continues to go in circles, which can be very soothing I must admit.

Now if only PD wasn't so concerned with the looks and let me actually race in VR... Replace the cars with ps2 models if that's what it takes.

 

[Felix]

i bought my T300RS and the premium pedals from the T500 over a year ago, ready for the "original" launch date. I ended up getting AC and really hated the single player and online experience with the game.

I like GT Sport, but it seems PD have lost sight of what we the players really want.

 

[Sander 001]

I'm a consumer of gammes

 

[kembro]

Console Racer here, AC for the physics, PCars2 for the variety and GTSport for fun.

 

[stevenhiggster]

I'm definitely a gammer, fo shizzle.

 

[englishbob]

I like to feel that I am a customer, yet the games industry is not geared towards this.

Did your Xbox break in the first hour of play? Did you try and return it to a GAME shop and got told its now nothing to do with them, its now Microsoft's problem and you have to send your machine off for repair under the warranty. Then Microsoft send you a reconditioned 2nd hand return.

Did you buy a game, Pinball Arcade, for example, whereby the publishing deal collapsed for it very early, meaning the catalogue of pinball tables for it never materialised past the initial bare bones download, making your purchase redundant. Try and get a refund? No chance, its no ones problem but yours.

Bought a game on release whereby the publisher make the details on it very very vague, whereby you end up not getting what you thought you where.

I admit that the above examples are very specific to my experience, although some of them might be shared by others.

Not GT Sport though. There was a demo version of it for a week or so before release, so I knew what I was getting myself into.

Lessons learnt by years of gaming....
1) NEVER pre-order anything, unless its a sure bet and the price is a must.
2) Wait for well written non-hyped or paid-for reviews and sensible internet comments on the game
3) Use YouTube for honest video of the game running
3) NEVER shop in GAME stores in the UK

Games publishers (unless a demo is provided first) will do mostly anything to abstract useful information on their games in advance, and their games performance. Most video game trailers are pre-rendered CGI or live action footage, showing no actual gameplay whatsoever.

My 2 pence

 

[Da_dietn]

I totally dished GT Sport when it first came out..... I hated it, well it was not what I wanted it to be... I've just spent £300 on a steering rig and wanted to be able to have a decent racing game to use it with.
Thats life man.. Everything has to be more and more and more each year. Blame the publishers lol

With all the problems with the game I've coming really frustrated with it but no more so then with PD n Sony....... I remember when games were made by gamers for gamers.. but now things have changed.

Games have now become products and gamers have now become consumers.......... I don't think is problems with the game itself but the game has now become a product.

I'm not quite sure where I'm going with this but I come from the days where I grew up it was the 80s and computer gaming was it first about computing and then it became about gaming but now it seems to be more about consuming.

I was there for the 1st and I'm here for the last it seems to be gaming is dying out it's all about product and how much you can push a product per consumer........ I'm not sure I'm happy being Drip Fed a game I used to enjoy.

I paid £200 for a games console to be able to play games on but now it seems more and more I can only play it when the servers say I can ie online saving. It's not that I dislike the game I just dislike the way gaming is being taken away from me and then Drip Fed back to me for a cost.... I don't know I could just be getting old I'm one of the last few used to play games from the very start the Amstrad the Commodore the Sinclair the Omega.

Maybe it's time for old-school to move over for new school..... I do apologise for being in the wrong section but it seems the older I get the core principle of me gaming it's been taken away from me I'm being turned into a product.

I'm 48...49 next year....maybe I'm just getting to old or just to old school for modem gaming. ...... I'm seeing tech I use to see in films when I was younger becoming reality. And fun now being charged for.